I hate Mezz in RvR.

[poppamies]

well thats mythics foult, not the mid or hib players.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

this entire thread is a complete waste of time and space.

If you remove mezz, it has to be done with collision detection put in its stead.

I mean, c'mon, like Tyka said, get some resists, ra's, whatever.. even a decent remove mezz'er.

CC is there cus collision detection is not.

 

[hercules-df]

get rid of mezz and stun, keep root, itll still keep on coming tanks under control and casters will still beable to do something other than be free 1 shot kills while rooted.

 

[sorusi]

fyi insta mezz is useless, insta stun is usefull sometimes .. (ok insta aoe mezz and so on is ok on noobs, wich most of you are )

remove aoe mezz from the game and zergs will grow even stronger - can see why lots of albs want it this way...

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by Stormm
if mythic gave alb insta aoe cc, and hibs/mids castable then you'd see the truth

insta cc > castable

range means fuk all when u can cast at speed 5

admittidly albs lack of sorcs in general don't help

instas mean fuck if you had a slow idiot playing the CC, fyi insta mezz wouldnt change a THING vs a tank grp... QQ some more

 

[Begach]

Originally posted by sorusi
instas mean fuck if you had a slow idiot playing the CC, fyi insta mezz wouldnt change a THING vs a tank grp... QQ some more

Actually mate i agree. Any bard who casts an insta on a tank grp is gonna get seriously owned. Funny thing is though i NEVER see mid healer castable mezz, always insta v's any group. They might follow up with castable to catch the straglers but still insta AoE mezz is very effective for mid.

Even NP......NEVER EVER A CASTABLE head on.

Strange thing that eh? Especially since bards know an get real pissed off if another bard uses insta's for anything but defence

B.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by poppamies
well thats mythics foult, not the mid or hib players.

Nobody here is accusing any players for something that's a game mechanic. We're just discussing how the game mechanics could be improved.

 

[Stormm]

Originally posted by sorusi
instas mean fuck if you had a slow idiot playing the CC, fyi insta mezz wouldnt change a THING vs a tank grp... QQ some more

thats your opinion

cc does make a difference - ffs 5 seconds of cc + /assist is enough time to nail any support chars, also stops a grp in its tracks nicely for attacking grp to have time to easily pickout first targets etc

this all makes a difference considering how much dmg can be dealt in short time

wtf would you know anyway you dont have to play against it

 

[Sarnat]

Originally posted by Eleasias
cry more newbs QQ

I think the man has a point!

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by Begach
Actually mate i agree. Any bard who casts an insta on a tank grp is gonna get seriously owned. Funny thing is though i NEVER see mid healer castable mezz, always insta v's any group. They might follow up with castable to catch the straglers but still insta AoE mezz is very effective for mid.

Even NP......NEVER EVER A CASTABLE head on.

Strange thing that eh? Especially since bards know an get real pissed off if another bard uses insta's for anything but defence

B.

your aware that head on vs sorc you cant win as a healer w/o instas?.. and bard can lul head on so...

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by Stormm
thats your opinion

cc does make a difference - ffs 5 seconds of cc + /assist is enough time to nail any support chars, also stops a grp in its tracks nicely for attacking grp to have time to easily pickout first targets etc

this all makes a difference considering how much dmg can be dealt in short time

wtf would you know anyway you dont have to play against it

its not even 5sec fyi.. i play against it fyi, and btw, wtf would you know, you havnt played bard,healer and sorc...

go back to camelot hills and kill skeletons please


and yep, insta mezz does make a differance against gimped ppl like you who run around with 10 body resist, and gimped grps w/o tanks that havnt got determination and sorc that are both slow and blind and with 1500 ping

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by Begach
Actually mate i agree. Any bard who casts an insta on a tank grp is gonna get seriously owned. Funny thing is though i NEVER see mid healer castable mezz, always insta v's any group. They might follow up with castable to catch the straglers but still insta AoE mezz is very effective for mid.

Even NP......NEVER EVER A CASTABLE head on.

Strange thing that eh? Especially since bards know an get real pissed off if another bard uses insta's for anything but defence

B.

your aware that there are several healers in NP, they all play different

to you all bitchers: maybe you should play more and get some experience before going to bw and whine

 

[old.Tzeentch]

sorusi just pwned this thread.

thank you all for playing. move on pls.

 

[Trubble]

Originally posted by sorusi
your aware that there are several healers in NP, they all play different

to you all bitchers: maybe you should play more and get some experience before going to bw and whine

This thread isnt pointed at NP healers, you dont have to stand up and defend them. Try instead to relate to what is being talked about.

 

[sorusi]

was replying the little zergling

and this thread is about bunch of newbies/idiots whineing about how "powerfull" mezz is, sure its powerfull.

and then half of the idiots have to start crying why they cant have mezz, ie no instas etc and that they would roxxor with instas... you know what, you would still be farmed with insta mezz - it doesnt help against good grps atm...

 

[Arthwyr]

Arnor I'm gonna say something I never said on BW but I'm sure you will get it. STFU, take a fart and clear your mind. Like your post explaining wich classes could beat a suppresion bonedancer one on one and why. Man you are a joke. If there is one retard who posted here its most certainly you. Remember when clerics had their insta PBAOE MEZZ without the DUMB and rediculous timer on it and both hibs and mids were whining about it. So ppl whine and mythic nerfs smite , wich imho was good because clerics started to spec rejuvination and actualy heal people for a change. The worst part of it though is that they deprived albion of their only viable insta aoe defensive spell by making the smiteline obsolete they even surpassed themselves on it not only be nerfing the smite but by adding the Insane timer who in his right mind would spec smite now ... Alb insta bibi. Give alb pbaoe mezz back to cleric in the enhance line. 9 sec or so duration is long enough and on 15 or 20 minute timer.

As for being useful the insta aoe mezz (not stun, cause thats just rediculous) is not as much a offensive spell as it is a defensive one. I cant count the number of times a group of tanks heads for a healer, healer fires his insta mezz, tanks freeze for a second before they find their purge button (IF its up) and the healer puts some distance between him and the tanks. Ever tried catching a shaman buffed healer thats sprinting from you, can promise you you are in for a long run. Specialy fun when there are couple of zerkers stuck to or a runie is firing away at you. Insta does it matter ... it sure as hell does. To all of you mids who say it doesn't here is a challenge. Remove it from your quickbar for a full week and at the end think of the times you died that your normaly wouldnt have died or reached for it only to find its not there.

 

[m4rk]

ROFL thats a new one!

 

[Jiggs]

Originally posted by sorusi
was replying the little zergling

and this thread is about bunch of newbies/idiots whineing about how "powerfull" mezz is, sure its powerfull.

and then half of the idiots have to start crying why they cant have mezz, ie no instas etc and that they would roxxor with instas... you know what, you would still be farmed with insta mezz - it doesnt help against good grps atm...

44spec ae mezz lasts like 4seconds on zzang and co, then they all hit /last attacker and /charge

 

[Jiggs]

Originally posted by sorusi
its not even 5sec fyi.. i play against it fyi, and btw, wtf would you know, you havnt played bard,healer and sorc...

go back to camelot hills and kill skeletons please


and yep, insta mezz does make a differance against gimped ppl like you who run around with 10 body resist, and gimped grps w/o tanks that havnt got determination and sorc that are both slow and blind and with 1500 ping

well new NP tactic is to use ichor against sorc bolt range mezz....

hmm let me see thats....bolt range AND instant

GG mythic

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by Jiggs
44spec ae mezz lasts like 4seconds on zzang and co, then they all hit /last attacker and /charge

yeah, so how would insta help?

also last attacker - pfft, tanks should have targetted sorc with mouse at LOS before mezz, and assisting tanks sould spamm assist macro

 

[Jiggs]

i didnt say it would, i dont think gunz and co care about insta mezz either

givf friar determination!!

 

[Stormm]

Originally posted by sorusi
its not even 5sec fyi.. i play against it fyi, and btw, wtf would you know, you havnt played bard,healer and sorc...

go back to camelot hills and kill skeletons please


and yep, insta mezz does make a differance against gimped ppl like you who run around with 10 body resist, and gimped grps w/o tanks that havnt got determination and sorc that are both slow and blind and with 1500 ping

oh u fkin prik - fyi i made a ac'er just to make mp suit and cap everything, and u twat i cant get det

like i said wtf do u know .. easy to play easy mode and to come here with the big 'i am'

and even ur gf told me last night she wished u wern't mr 'insta' in bed

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by Jiggs
i didnt say it would, i dont think gunz and co care about insta mezz either

givf friar determination!!

no you didnt say it would, because you have some brains heh wich most albs lack, so when they create excuses for looseing they take as stupid things like insta mezz and mention it

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by Stormm
oh u fkin prik - fyi i made a ac'er just to make mp suit and cap everything, and u twat i cant get det

like i said wtf do u know .. easy to play easy mode and to come here with the big 'i am'

and even ur gf told me last night she wished u wern't mr 'insta' in bed

your aware that i play more realms than midgar?, and im fully aware that paladins cant get determination

 

[poppamies]

yeah, give the secondary HEALING class of alb det...
sure that wouldnt be too overpowerd..
And give em chain also...
=)

 

[Jiggs]

yeah fear my 293spec heal!!!

hmm maybe i should get MoC

 

[Jiggs]

Originally posted by sorusi
no you didnt say it would, because you have some brains heh wich most albs lack, so when they create excuses for looseing they take as stupid things like insta mezz and mention it

which albs are whine on loosing^^

cant speak for most albs but we win more alot than we lose

 

[vintervargen]

soruzi dont turn it into what realm that got best cc or pwns or whatever. the issue is wether daoc rvr without ae mezz would be good or bad. you might have thoughts about it, but saying "its like dis and dat, cry more QQ" aint really interessting.

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by Jiggs
which albs are whine on loosing^^

cant speak for most albs but we win more alot than we lose

like 99% of the albs we meet when we have our night grp out

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by vintervargen
soruzi dont turn it into what realm that got best cc or pwns or whatever. the issue is wether daoc rvr without ae mezz would be good or bad. you might have thoughts about it, but saying "its like dis and dat, cry more QQ" aint really interessting.

discussing anything on this forum isnt really interresting since most ppl here dont know jack shit about the game, or wont learn

and removeing mezz from daoc will make zergs even stronger = shit, winning simply by numbers suck