I hate Mezz in RvR.

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by vintervargen
anyway, enough of this, if you read the entire thread you will see what my point is, if you dont.. well

Aye, I made my point too.. said what I had to say about it, so no use for me to repeat it every time I see someone repeating the same arguments ( ;

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by quinthar
Arnt you one of the people that BK jumped into a foriegn realm despite the rules and now come here abusing people you perceive to be bitching.....


Class.....

yeah farmed 500k rps in hibb on grey cons while i was in hibb, also i chain pk:ed some grycons by blackthorns, and jumped + laughted at their bodies + molested the elfs in tir na nog mr hobby cop

and yep ppl that dont like mezz are the zerging little zerglings who get mezzed for 545454 mins cos they cba to get good resists/determination/aom...




also mezz has been in the game since start. so why remove it, its allready been nerfed 500 times allready i dont see the reason at all to come whine about it,,

old days ppl could remezz mezzed targets, now THAT is powerfull

ps: drop the "cry for the win" tactic, each time some of you whiners loose you either go zerg or come to the forum crying about xx ability..

 

[vintervargen]

its sad that you cannot see the possibilities without it sorusi

even tho the duration generally aint longer then 10sec on det4-5 tanks its still enough for killing 3 support classes if you assist good.

 

[sorusi]

and w/o it zergs would perform 200times better in rvr, this would encurage them to keep zerging instead of logging after getting killed

and mezz is close to equal for all realms so..

 

[vintervargen]

no because i believe even if "random" groups or "noob" groups died, they would realise it was because of better teamplay from the enemies, and not because of superior CC (aka insta something). so imo, they would be more encouraged to try again, then atm.

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by vintervargen
no because i believe even if "random" groups or "noob" groups died, they would realise it was because of better teamplay from the enemies, and not because of superior CC (aka insta something). so imo, they would be more encouraged to try again, then atm.

no they would just keep zerging, because they dont think that way, in their eyes its aimbot or something

 

[vintervargen]

Originally posted by sorusi
no they would just keep zerging, because they dont think that way, in their eyes its aimbot or something

could be, could be.

 

[old.Filip]

hmmm soruzi imho you have lost it ..

and to many other here ... in general those who oppose the tread starter say


NONONO DONT REMOVE CC/MEZZ ... CRY MORE NOOB ETC !!

he said .. remove AE mezz ... singel target mezz and other CC should still be here

some here say removing AE mezz will start zergs .....

they are so far from reallity .... i just logged becuase NP owned the random group i was in .... there was no sorc avaliable at all ... and playing further would have been pointless with no AE mezz ...

so i guess all those albs on the pad would have to zerg just to pass AMG (in fact i suggestet they should)...

guess what ... if there was no AE mezz some of them migth have taken the challenge to figth 1fg vs 1fg ....

and tbh i find Getting AE mezzed and figthing vs a /assist tank group WAY WAY WAY more boring than any zerg ..

why do you guys think that 1fg tank group is so fun to play in .. or with ..

why dont you listen to the clever guys here who say .. AE mezz do affect all the fun specs and support WAY more than tanks...

i would luve to see a daoc game where caster could play .. where cave shamans was ok....... where smite clerics was ok .. etc ..

atm ... Assisting tanks is all what matters ..... thats just boring ....

Filip

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by sorusi
discussing anything on this forum isnt really interresting since most ppl here dont know jack shit about the game, or wont learn

and removeing mezz from daoc will make zergs even stronger = shit, winning simply by numbers suck

lol, so who says the way you play is right and that zergs are wrong?


I dont even recall a relic being taken by 8 players.

oh hang on I predict what your gonna say:

"There are occaisions when you must have more than 1FG such as epic encounters etc" sorry matey but thats bollocks, there is only one thing a zerg cant do and thats be a single FG.

A zerg can do ANYTHING in this server, perhaps the self proclaimed preachers in this game should consider that before trying to impose their will on others.

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by sorusi
daoc is no war, its a game

Then treat it as such without deriding people every 5 secs, or perhaps you are unable to differentiate yourself?

 

[sorusi]

once mythic create a motor supporting large scale battles, and once they increase group size to 30 ill buy the zerging idea

as i said before,, remove determination, resist buffs (grp ones) and casters are viable again


zerging should never be viable untill they make large grps, and improve fps in large scale fights, so that ppl can really coorinate the fights (also i dont enjoy teaming up with ppl in zergs, because there are usually not 30 ppl online on 1 singel server that i would like to team with because i dont know them/like them .. )

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by sorusi
yeah farmed 500k rps in hibb on grey cons while i was in hibb, also i chain pk:ed some grycons by blackthorns, and jumped + laughted at their bodies + molested the elfs in tir na nog mr hobby cop

and yep ppl that dont like mezz are the zerging little zerglings who get mezzed for 545454 mins cos they cba to get good resists/determination/aom...

also mezz has been in the game since start. so why remove it, its allready been nerfed 500 times allready i dont see the reason at all to come whine about it,,

old days ppl could remezz mezzed targets, now THAT is powerfull

ps: drop the "cry for the win" tactic, each time some of you whiners loose you either go zerg or come to the forum crying about xx ability..

lol, you really have lost the plot, I mention that you are a BK jumping tosser and now I'm accused of joining a zerg or crying in BW.

Oh dear, your brain really is struggling to keep up isnt it.

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by quinthar
lol, you really have lost the plot, I mention that you are a BK jumping tosser and now I'm accused of joining a zerg or crying in BW.

Oh dear, your brain really is struggling to keep up isnt it.

big deal jumping over a bk? its like speeding on a highway irl or something

and that cry-part was aimed at those who do it, like all the 200 threads each day reading " nerf xxx, because he did xxx" ive only seen this kind of behaviour in this game sofar (still my first mmporg tho ) i mean, what point is there to whine at everyones abilitys when there clearly are ways and means to counter it?

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by sorusi
once mythic create a motor supporting large scale battles, and once they increase group size to 30 ill buy the zerging idea

Just because Mythic doesnt have 200 people groups doesnt mean for one second you cant get a coupla hundred mates and play AS a group, the GFX engines sucks for portals too, perhaps that means you should stay in your frontier also? The fact that it can be difficult to port from SI to CS for example doesnt mean you should get a horse, its just the way some chap coded it.

Warped statements such as "Mythic would have done this to encourage this" are totally without foundation, they havnt and more than likely they wont, this dont mean anybody else cant do it re: 2FG or more roaming etc .

My Infil can do better without the zergs but who cares, I cant tell people how to play their game nor would I want to, its wrong and rediculous to think you can or should.

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by sorusi
big deal jumping over a bk? its like speeding on a highway irl or something

and that cry-part was aimed at those who do it, like all the 200 threads each day reading " nerf xxx, because he did xxx" ive only seen this kind of behaviour in this game sofar (still my first mmporg tho ) i mean, what point is there to whine at everyones abilitys when there clearly are ways and means to counter it?

Actually nope it aint, one is RL one aint..

Exploiting flaws in the game in the past aint a good way to be taken seriously.

 

[Riddler]

MONG!!

 

[sorusi]

anyway, most ppl can agree on that "zerging" is lame, because it totally neutralises the enemys chance to win, nots not much of a fair play... as i play this game to win, as a soccer game, haveing fun with my friends on my guild and winning/improveing

now if i zerged, personally for me it would not be a win, but a loss since we had to rely on numbers - wich doesnt take any thinking or skill at all just gathering the ppl and F8 + F6 on the enemy...

Sure it it was a zerg vs zerg it MIGHT be fun, but as most ppl on excal rvr in 1fg - 2fgs, its therefore lame/not fair play to come with the double amount or tripple the amount..

and please explain what does jumping over a bk have to do with it all?

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by old.Riddler
MONG!!

Ah yes, the stereotypical response from somebody that cant formulate a reasonable response.

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by quinthar
Actually nope it aint, one is RL one aint..

Exploiting flaws in the game in the past aint a good way to be taken seriously.

yep Exploiting = gaining something from it, souch as RPS/GOLD/ITEMS or so.... please explain

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by sorusi
anyway, most ppl can agree on that "zerging" is lame, because it totally neutralises the enemys chance to win, nots not much of a fair play... as i play this game to win, as a soccer game, haveing fun with my friends on my guild and winning/improveing

now if i zerged, personally for me it would not be a win, but a loss since we had to rely on numbers - wich doesnt take any thinking or skill at all just gathering the ppl and F8 + F6 on the enemy...

Sure it it was a zerg vs zerg it MIGHT be fun, but as most ppl on excal rvr in 1fg - 2fgs, its therefore lame/not fair play to come with the double amount or tripple the amount..

and please explain what does jumping over a bk have to do with it all?

Who's most people?

The people I see with a G string in thier butt about this are the self proclaimed RVR guilds, the fact it neutralises the enemies chance to win is a RP getting tbh. Sure some dont like it, but the fact it continues day in day out, means all three realms are perpetuating it.

EG: RG when they used to run about with 2FG's on a very regular basis, they won a shed load more fights than they lost, so technically they have a recipe for success, that fact that some dont like it is neither here nor there.

You do this to win, some do it to have fun...you keep on referring to most people prefer to RVR with 1FG or 2FG, this simply is not the case becasue such a small minority of people on the server actually come to BW.

The BK jumping reference was to do with credibility nothing more nothing less.

You eluded to the fact that its lame or not fair to to bring double the number etc, well I'm sure not everybody thinks its fair to hop into an enemy realm, there endeth the similarity.

 

[sorusi]

and i think ive made it quite clear to most ppl that i dont give a shit what they think of me

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by sorusi
yep Exploiting = gaining something from it, souch as RPS/GOLD/ITEMS or so.... please explain

That "gaining" could quite simply mean " Advantage" or "Circumvent"

You dont need to gain material profit from something to exploit it.

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by quinthar
That "gaining" could quite simply mean " Advantage" or "Circumvent"

You dont need to gain material profit from something to exploit it.

k so what was my "gaining"/ " Advantage" or "Circumvent" when going into hibb?

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by sorusi
k so what was my "gaining"/ " Advantage" or "Circumvent" when going into hibb?

I think your the only one that can tell us what you hoped to acheive by doing something the game expressly forbids.

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by quinthar
I think your the only one that can tell us what you hoped to acheive by doing something the game expressly forbids.

i think it was fun that i could get into hibb, it wasnt really that easy was no hole and stuff, had to be quite lucky to manage it also it was new for me since ive never done such a thing before

 

[Trubble]

Originally posted by sorusi
anyway, most ppl can agree on that "zerging" is lame, because it totally neutralises the enemys chance to win, nots not much of a fair play... as i play this game to win, as a soccer game, haveing fun with my friends on my guild and winning/improveing

Most people play to win or at least not to die without having fun.

And those people are smart enough to see that if the odds are for loosing on almost all fg vs fg encounters, they will band together with others to increase the chance to win. Fact is they wouldnt be banding together if they had fun being just one group!!! And I bet they dont give a shit about what you think about zerging.

If someone starts to zerg against your group, take it as a compliment on how good you are. Dont come crying here if you suddenly feel that you no longer can win cause they came up with a tactic that beats you. Instead you should come bragging with how many enemies it takes to put you down.

Zergs are rarely something that last, they are mostly formed to beat up a current strong enemy. And once that has happened the zerg falls apart again... learn to live with it like everyone else.

Funny how a thread about mez has become a thread about zergs.

 

[stunned]

Originally posted by sorusi
it wasnt really that easy was no hole and stuff, had to be quite lucky to manage it also it was new for me since ive never done such a thing before

Of course a twisted mind like my own could not help quoting this and accosiating to something else

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by stunned
Of course a twisted mind like my own could not help quoting this and accosiating to something else

hahaha

 

[poppamies]

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