What's the best way for a cleric to survive in RvR?

[vintervargen]

with my druid i have studded armor, no shield, and equipped a weapon on the back. makes me look more like a fighter dude. maybe you oculd try remove shield and equip a weapon on your back. and yes, dying black to hide epic armor helps (ask shammys).

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by vintervargen
with my druid i have studded armor, no shield, and equipped a weapon on the back. makes me look more like a fighter dude. maybe you oculd try remove shield and equip a weapon on your back. and yes, dying black to hide epic armor helps (ask shammys).

ZzzzZZ I asked on IRC if your druid carried Reinforced armour because I hit you for 459 and they said no, he's wearing scale.. So I was ok.... still strange coz I was quite sure it was RF and the damage was extremely high.

Anyhow, I like druids in reinforced. I recognize them anyhow (by the spells) and with RF armour I can kill you way more easy, together with the bard

 

[vintervargen]

well mate, its not exactly friars im worried about, sorry

by the way, great RvR in odins yesterday, a big /salute to Black Falcons and the other albs.

Mids as well of course

 

[heilel]

Originally posted by vintervargen
with my druid i have studded armor, no shield, and equipped a weapon on the back. makes me look more like a fighter dude. maybe you oculd try remove shield and equip a weapon on your back. and yes, dying black to hide epic armor helps (ask shammys).

But what sort of weapon that a cleric can wear equips on teh back?
Does that happen automatically if you unequip the shield or something?

 

[vintervargen]

my guess is you can wield a normal 1h weapon, since the 2h slot also works like another right hand slot..

 

[heilel]

Originally posted by vintervargen
my guess is you can wield a normal 1h weapon, since the 2h slot also works like another right hand slot..

Ah, ok, so try equipping it in the 2h slot...
I'll give it a shot..thanks.


I hope my defences don't down too much from removing my shield tho.
Still worth a try anyway.

 

[-Wedge-]

There's only 1 thing that could protect you if you want to stand still in a fight... Thats a PBAoE caster (Ice Wizard for Albion)... Otherwise, being a cleric involves... Well... A lot of running...

Never stand in 1 spot too long unless you seriously have to... Tbh, if your group needs too much healing at the start, it probably already lost the fight...

Wait as long as possible with your first heal... Dont carry a medium shield (weird how Clerics are the only albion class with medium shields)...

And start running before the enemy gets to you... If he's smacking on you, he's unlikely going to give up that smacking urge that he has... But if your out of range, sprinting away, circles around your group, what ever... He'll most likely switch to an easier target... Remember, INT buffs dont have any effect on tanks, there's a reason for that

A good trick, although not nice for the casters in your group, is to run passed a caster that is casting on the tank thats on you... 7 out of 10 times, the tank will switch to the caster leaving you free to heal... I'd recommend against this if the tank is a zerker, seeing they 2-shot casters, so he'll be on you asap again... But with anything else, its a good tactic

 

[heilel]

Originally posted by -Wedge-
Wait as long as possible with your first heal... Dont carry a medium shield (weird how Clerics are the only albion class with medium shields)...

So what ar you suggesting as an alternative?
A small shield or no shield at all?

 

[vintervargen]

go for the "mezzed-merc" look imo

 

[smerf]

Dye your epic black or use crafted, wear mace on your back and dont use your shield, this means you wont be picked out as a cleric before the fights even started and you can get into a good position before you start healing.

If you get attacked by tanks use sprint, and go towards your pally so he can slam them, often if you dont loose em you can get enough distance between you and them to get a spread heal off. If your getting nuked either get out of LoS or run towards em and use your insta mezz on em.

Trees make good hiding places, as do the mile gates (hiding in the door on the other side is good with the spead heal), Also use the lay of the land to hide so they cant see you. Also standing next to a load of casters also makes you invisible ;>

 

[heilel]

Originally posted by smerf
Dye your epic black or use crafted, wear mace on your back and dont use your shield, this means you wont be picked out as a cleric before the fights even started and you can get into a good position before you start healing.

Yep, Gonna try all this..

If you get attacked by tanks use sprint, and go towards your pally so he can slam them, often if you dont loose em you can get enough distance between you and them to get a spread heal off. If your getting nuked either get out of LoS or run towards em and use your insta mezz on em.

Like the idea of tracking down the grp pally or defense tank, but my Mezz is crap and hardly ever works.

Trees make good hiding places, as do the mile gates (hiding in the door on the other side is good with the spead heal), Also use the lay of the land to hide so they cant see you. Also standing next to a load of casters also makes you invisible ;>

Yep, gonna try the hiding thing too, but won't standing near casters just make me a target for the inevitable aoe mezz?

 

[-Wedge-]

Well, with my cleric I went for the small shield...

If you can lose the points (in your SC suit), you could go for no shield... Its not like your a blocking wonder... I mean if I block anything at all, I'm like : wow, I blocked.........

Oh 1 more thing, dont put an emblem on your shield... Easier to pickout... And, perhaps (if you dont already have one) try a hooded cloak... It'll be harder for the enemy to see if your wearing chain...

And get rid of any glowing hammers you might have...

You could try something silly, like no cloak, no shield... And put a hammer in 2H slot... Might make you look like a merc, but you'll lose out on a lot of bonuses from items...

 

[heilel]

Originally posted by -Wedge-
Well, with my cleric I went for the small shield...

If you can lose the points (in your SC suit), you could go for no shield... Its not like your a blocking wonder... I mean if I block anything at all, I'm like : wow, I blocked.........

Yeah, I'll try the no shield, hammer on back trick first.

Oh 1 more thing, dont put an emblem on your shield... Easier to pickout... And, perhaps (if you dont already have one) try a hooded cloak... It'll be harder for the enemy to see if your wearing chain...

I don't have a hooded cloak ATM, I'll try and score one somewhere.

And get rid of any glowing hammers you might have...

I have a few hammer/maces that are supposed to glow, but the batteries must be dead as they don't glow , so no problem there.

 

[Talifer]

Simple, find 7 crush/shield mercs all dye your armour the same colours and let the enemy guess. Then it's a simple case of /laugh as each Merc dies knowing you've fooled the enemy, then /release with a smile on your face.

Talifer

p.s. Yes mercs use medium shields, just not very often

 

[parlain]

I've started dressing like Noret now to confuse twolls, works too as the number of tanks that try to hit me has increased

 

[cougar-]

do the droooood trick and hide inside a tree.

 

[bult]

tell ur friends to roll an inconnu armsman i get SHITLOADS of tanks on me all the time hehe, guess its all the nub F8 wait for inconnu then spam DF tanks that do this >< If im driving a group and have polearm equiped many ppl will take me for a sorc :d

 

[kirennia]

first off:

50 sheild armsman :

50 sheild paladin

A 50 sheild paladin is much more useful as a defender because if you roll an armsman, you should be on offense...you sacrifice utility for better melee, so why try and get more utility with a sheild again?


Second:

Get 2 clerics in your grp If you can't then persuade more of your friends to roll one because without them when some mid groups have upto FOUR (4?!?!) seers and hib groups have three healers, alb with 1 isnt going to work at all...

Third:

The best tip I can give you is to find a good hiding spot, it is ESSENTIAL to healing well. I remember not so long ago, 1fg of us wiped 2 1/2 fg hibs, because I was able to find a great hiding spot and healed all my 3 mana bars away Learn to get into a good position and not one that is going to make you pass an enemy tank/caster. Getting to the side or behind the enemy is great as long as no1 spots you but if they do, then you are in no-mans land so be careful and learn when to run.

Fourth:

If you see an enemy tank charging towards you, try and leggit WITH SPRINT HOTKEYED and soon enough they will give up. If you have a fighter with a sheild and the enemy hasnt been slammed already, then circle back round to them a.s.a.p. With this in mind, learn to make best use of your 'tilde' and arrow keys to spin the camera round during combat. By doing this, you can look around 360 degrees whilst you are healing/running so you will know when to stop and when to run. Doing this will mean that you can return to the group in very quick time. Of course, remember that 'D' will return your camera

Fifth:

Make sure you have at least 3 spec in smite. The pbaoe mezz is on a different timer to sorc/therg/mincer mezz so you will be okay to use it in a bad situation. The best way to use this is if a tank is on you, WAIT UNTIL PF HAS WORN OFF IF YOU HAVE IT ON, otherwise it's a waste. Use the camera trick to turn so it is facing the enemy that is chasing you, suddenly reverse so that they are in the centre of your pbaoe, cast and leggit with sprint. On the average tank it will last about 5 seconds, on a high rr tank it will last about 2/3 seconds but it will still be enough to let you get away if it isn't resisted.

Sixth:

Res in combat. First RA to get is MCL, and then BoF. Try to get more power RA's as you go along because you will need them after resses which take 50% of your power. If you have 2 clerics with these RA's then there can be 8 deaths in the group, as well as you healing but at the end of the fight, every single one of you can still be standing with full health.

Seventh:

Spec so you get the full health res. It is 100% essential, otherwise in combat resses are next to useless.

Eighth:

Res in order of importance. I usually go for this

Clerics first, then they can insta res some1else as well)
Friars second for same reason as clerics
Paladins third again for same reason as above
Sorcs fourth ONLY if mezz didnt go off, otherwise move them a LOT lower.
Thergs fifth (only this high if you have at least 1 tank alive) as they will help your tanks no end.
Tanks in general sixth, unless there are no other tanks alive, then move them to fourth
Casters, they will die in 2 hits and with res sick, not cast for much more then a tank melee res sick. Least important for resses.


Of course, different situations require different measures but only experience will help you there.


Think thats all I've got to add apart from color of your suit, don't make it stand out a mile and get your tanks to wear yellow or summit The brain processes lighter colors first so it's more likely they will look at the tanks first before they notice you walking behind a tree Also, NO, DO NOT USE YOUR TORCH. It makes all too much difference.

 

[Rnp]

serious kirennia u got too much spare time

 

[err0r]

Originally posted by stunned
Or it could be Arnor was ironic. Dont listen to Trolls or Luwikekens.

Tell a shield tank to stick You or leave group.

Originally posted by stunned
Thx, I didn´t know You liked me

The capital ''Y'' in ''you'' annoys the shit out of me. There's no reason for that btw.

 

[kirennia]

Originally posted by Rnp
serious kirennia u got too much spare time

I'm crafting....need I say more?

 

[Trinilim]

Stand in the top room of ATK and go afk (after buffing everyone up ofc)

 

[Denisée]

Hiding behind a tree or corner is a good trick, I find many clerics doing it. And I laugh my arse off everytime I see them come hide with me or I try hide and I find them there

Insta debuff fortehwin

 

[heilel]

Originally posted by kirennia
first off: *snip*

Thanks for all the advice, noted..

 

[old.Sko]

running instinct is high among menders in all realms =D
i recon sprinted away with my healer from some nekkid alb during some brawl in odins and today some cleric tried to run away from shammie i was playing =D
2h shammies are evul =D

 

[fl_gorre]

-first off all dont run straight intoo a fight
-try to pick yourselve a good spot (behind a tree, on a higher lvl) as long as it isnt right in the fightzone but still in range to heal
know where your CC'er runs run in his line of view with your agroo
-sprint is your best friend
-stun an inc tank or pet if there is nobody around to help you directly cast a last spreadheal or start running to other side right away(most dont know how to use /face and as soon as your are out of /stick range and bit out of sight your ok
-insta pbaoe mezz handy vs pets and with soem luck vs enemies too
-turn your back to the fight and turn camera 180 degrees
-run to CC or tank who you know he will put guard on you
-cast your dps add buffs so you can kill a grey pet fast if needed
-stun a tank who is on a caster who's QC is down so he can root or mezz em (if there isnt a tank near the caster)

 

[poppamies]

healers/clerics/druids are huge targets in a fight, try to..
Hmm why im a telling u ur the one im hoping to die, so nm =)

 

[gwal]

good guard tanks and ccérs are your friend, make the best of em. if they dont protect u well whenever they can, well... then they arent good enough yet, so try to explain to them what they do wrong, and what they should be doing (no use telling em they aint doing what they should if u dont tell em what they should do).

and sprint is an invaluable button.
and ofc, dont stand a place that is sure to make u get an enemy on u, but rather a bit outside the fight, preferably a place where the enemy is likely to miss u (and yeah, that aint always an option)

 

[heilel]

Well, I tried some of the ideas (the good ones) and it certainly has helped somewhat.

I've noticed more people are not going straight for me.
I reckon it's improved my survivability by about 50%, but it's hard to tell, I've only played one evening with the new setup.

I guess in RvR, a quick first imprsession of what you look like is what counts.

Anyway, for those who made positive comments, thanks a lot.
Not only is my survival rate improved, my enjoyment of the game has too.

 

[poppamies]

well running like hell away from tanks helps, and only stand still when u must cast a heal, use sprint at all times, if u got somekind of end regain, and hiting a caster u pass every now and then helps also.