run thru & engage

Discussion in 'RvR Discussions' started by Dard, Aug 1, 2007.

  1. Dard

    Dard Can't get enough of FH

    Run through used to be considered lame & an exploit of game mechanics if i recall correctly, i'm guessing its considered cool & "l33t" now as a lot of people seem to do it? (or am i the only person who seems to spend half of his fights with his opponents out of view?)

    Same attitude with engage it seems, engage, slam, rag/levi/pb shot <whatever> engage yawn rinse yawn repeat.

    Getting rolled by superior numbers is part of the game in my eyes, i can deal with that, /release, rebuff & go out again, but in my opinion its a bit cheesy when solo'ers play like this, or am i just out of touch? :(
  2. Nuxtobatns

    Nuxtobatns Can't get enough of FH

    Both can be countered tbh.
  3. Dard

    Dard Can't get enough of FH

    How tbh ?
  4. Nuxtobatns

    Nuxtobatns Can't get enough of FH

    Run thru and strafe... basically..counter strafe and stuff... position yourself better in the fight... and constantly change facing/movement..go with the flow.
    Engage...depends on your class and your enemies class tbh. Use your imagination and make use of all the tools u get.
  5. gohan

    gohan FH is my second home

    strafe u can counter... run throught u cant, cos they run foward faster than you run backwards, so with lag abuse ect and yes it is abuse no doubt atall, they will hit levi/rag/stun ect everytime eventually
  6. Nuxtobatns

    Nuxtobatns Can't get enough of FH

    try runing throught him..hitting face and backstyle yourself.. u c what happens. And u dont even have to do that...try sidestepping.
  7. aika

    aika Can't get enough of FH

    everyone who run-throughs and strafes is lame in my opinion, no respect.
  8. Shotoken

    Shotoken Fledgling Freddie

    Stand still and spam the qbar is the way to go then? :puke:

    If someone engage you and theres a mob near just pull it, if u are being attacked your enemy cant engage you :)
  9. aika

    aika Can't get enough of FH

    out of view x 10 is better then?
  10. Shotoken

    Shotoken Fledgling Freddie

    Just dont stand there while they kill you... position yourself and isnt a problem. No way i'd get 10 not in view msg in a fight :eek6:
  11. Nuxtobatns

    Nuxtobatns Can't get enough of FH

    no out of view if u play it well.
  12. aika

    aika Can't get enough of FH

    oh well strafe all you want if you think so, I still think its lame , I hardly ever strafed, and I dont even strafe against shield tanks.. You do realise that you can kill without it too? Also I cant see the point of ppl strafing/run through against an infiltrator. Like yesterday I had SL up, jumped some rr6 sb, after he went down to 50% in like 2 hits he started running through and trying to land side stun, which ended with me failing like 3-4 styles due to not in view:(

    oh and if you're all so smart, please enlighten me how do you counter run-through with 140 ping against enemies with usually 30-40 ping.
  13. Eeben

    Eeben Fledgling Freddie

    lamest is really when assains use snare envenom an then do that, you got no chance of counter strafing .
  14. aika

    aika Can't get enough of FH

    or garotte and run through, hf countering that.
  15. Dard

    Dard Can't get enough of FH

    So to beat a lamer you gotta be a lamer? not my cup of tea to be honest, i'm really not that desperate to win a fight, i just enjoy a good tear up trying to get reactionarys off (heh, which i really dont do very often :england:).

    ho hum, will try saying "i must play like tard" 100 times everynight before i go to sleep & see if that helps me any. :touch:
  16. aika

    aika Can't get enough of FH

    Also found it funny some rr5 warrior engaged my merc today, "oh noes one style got through shield, must engage mates!", players like that are just :puke:
  17. Gear

    Gear Can't get enough of FH

    Give me plate, a huge "pole" to play with, a melee immunity rr5, or other things like shield and hots along with proper armours, blah blah blah, the list can go on, then I'm just going to stand there and spam styles.
  18. Solari

    Solari Can't get enough of FH

    They know how to move their character and benefit from it :> abuse, cheat, hax, ect...
  19. Blazor Meneth

    Blazor Meneth Fledgling Freddie

    I must be a baaad abuser then with cripple poi, anytime garrote and run throughs :(
  20. Last time I checked engage was an ability from the shield line you can put on your qbar.

    Last time I thought about it, run through was the exploitation of missing colision detection.

    Two different things.
  21. Vermillon

    Vermillon One of Freddy's beloved

    Anytime snare(garrote), PA or Backstab, poisons + viper, vanish, huge evade rate, supprise the enemy as beeing able to be stealthed in general blah blah blah, the list can go on. You chosed to play a stealther, none forced you. As a one got all the tools to kite tanks or fast kill casters the only downside is that requires some skills to achive the kill. Assasins are not blademasters/mercs/zerkers with stealth and poisons. The sad thing is that modern assasins act like they are ligth tanks as i said, they just want to attack and get the kill despite if they performed succesfuly PA or BS. Dont blame your class for the abilities it doesnt have, blame your self for not use correctly those it provides to you. But i dont blame you, why bother with those things since you can easily rely on ballet dancing and strafe jump around like a drunk bitch and have the same good result for you self. I dont blame strafers, its just eh game that alows them to do it.

    As for the "ballet dancing" with stick+strafe+windowdrag, what can i say.... it can be countered but the counter movements are not always working so there are times that the "dancer" get more hits in that he sould, plus it gives enough time for poisons to eat your HP.

    Well that happens when coutner strike mofos play daoc i belive. Banny hop! mates!!:kissit:
  22. Gear

    Gear Can't get enough of FH

    Not my bad if you can't counter some simple things. Feel free to come up with something else than just emoting in the middle of a fight to just let you go.
  23. Lorimez Shadowblade

    Lorimez Shadowblade Fledgling Freddie

    I've been playing since day one and still don't run through :)

    I enjoy a fair toe to toe fight - run through's tend to be used when :-

    a) They start losing and realise they ain't as good as they thought.

    b) They cack their pants at the sight of YOU and decide to do it :)

    c) Their crap players and will do anyhting to win - I hope one day they remember its just a game :fluffle:

    End of the day - play the way you like mate. When you meet strafers I'm afraid its just something you have to try and counter.

  24. aika

    aika Can't get enough of FH

    totally agree lorimez, maybe its somehow ok to strafe on a shield tank after 1.87, however absolutely no reason to strafe against an inf.
  25. Gear

    Gear Can't get enough of FH

    So the point is that since some can't deal with a particular playstyle, it should not be used. Deal!

    PS: I'm pretty sure that you could have PM'd requiel when he was still in daoc, and he'd come up with some lsd influenced spirit of the game shite and perma ban me, but hey, fraps it and rightnow it, not like they're working on solving any problems the cluster might have.
  26. cog

    cog Can't get enough of FH

    You can lag style past engage.
  27. Vermillon

    Vermillon One of Freddy's beloved

    Since when /rude means "Let me go!" ? I'm starting to belive that you leave in a daoc dream world...

    I stoped figting you cos it was so hillarious to see you jump around like chicken just to be able to hit me from behind while i had my back on the bridge wall. You just make use of the lag combined with stick and windowdrag.

    Oh and yes you are doing great against someone with CL buffs. :worthy:
  28. Gear

    Gear Can't get enough of FH

    Sorry, next time I won't let you go.

    Side stun, not rear. Pincer as a follow up, again from the side. The technique is quite easy, involves one hand on wasd keys with z as stick, and the second hand on the mouse so you can turn your toon and click 8 where "ice storm" is located. It might seem complicated to use more than a couple of buttons, but some of us do.

    Get a buffbot, get some friends, get some groups. QQing about buffs is quite old.
  29. alkz

    alkz Fledgling Freddie

    Try playing a fairly low rr skald, stick the soloers that's out, champs, armsmen, stealthers and shield users and spam provoke/crushing blow and you'll see how fun it is.
  30. krall

    krall Fledgling Freddie

    I will if: Frier or frier buffed, if a caster, if a maulers or a vamp.

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