United States Corrupt Twattery

[Job]

Like the popular Jeremy Corbyn.

 

[Gwadien]

Like the popular Jeremy Corbyn.

You mean groups of people that are realising that immigrants and muslims aren't responsible for the shit life style they currently have?

Yeah, those guys are dumb as shit.

 

[Job]

Well populism = idiot...oh...it only works on the right.
Muslims are not responsible for anyones shit lifestyle, simply because as they move in all the whites/Indians/Chinese people move out.
That's one of those FACTS that ....oh just shout racist.

 

[Gwadien]

Relevant Panorama - Germany's New Nazis

 

[Scouse]

FACTS

Link to evidence please.

As someone who moved from white white scouseland and has now spent 25 years living in cities with large minority ethnic population (often majority of the population dependent on area) cities I cannot concur with your so-called facts.

When I go back to majority white scouseland I do encounter a lot more racist opinions though. I find that they're born out of understandable ignorance. I say understandable because they haven't lived in the areas I have and seen what actually happens in any sort of context where they can't just leave and go back home.

Most of them are willing to hear alternative viewpoints based on other's experience, and sometimes amend their views. Sometimes.

The dumb ones tho. Nope. They like to tell me they're right and my life experience is wrong, because they visited places for a few hours and it was awful...

 

[Job]

Wiki

United Kingdom
For centuries, London was the destination for refugees and immigrants from continental Europe. Although all the immigrants were European, neighborhoods showed ethnic succession over time, as older residents (in some cases, ethnic British) moved out and new immigrants moved in, an early case of white flight (though the majority of London's population was still ethnic British).[62]

In the 2001 census, the London boroughs of Newham and Brent were found to be the first areas to have non-white majorities.[63] The 2011 census found that, for the first time, less than 50% of London's population were white British, and that in some areas of London white British people make up less than 20% of the population. A 2005 report stated that white migration within the UK is mainly from areas of high ethnic minority population to those with predominantly white populations. White British families have moved out of London as many immigrants have settled in the capital. The report's writers expressed concern about British social cohesion and stated that different ethnic groups were living "parallel lives"; they were concerned that lack of contact between the groups could result in fear more readily exploited by extremists. The London School of Economics in a study found similar results.[64]

Researcher Ludi Simpson says that the growth of ethnic minorities in Britain is due mostly to natural population growth (births outnumber deaths) rather than immigration. Both white and non-white Britons who can do so economically are equally likely to leave mixed-race inner-city areas. In his opinion, these trends indicate counter urbanisation rather than white flight.[65][66]

The non white Britons being Indians and Chinese

 

[Hawkwind]

Hate to say it but I think you proved his point

spent 25 years living in cities with large minority ethnic population (often majority of the population dependent on area) cities

Heck, I am a prime example, living in an expat community in Dubai. Hardly any locals live in this area just Western and Asian expats. We've done to areas of Dubai what the Pakistani have done in Slough. Human nature, you flock to areas that best serve your interests. That might be a pub rather than a mosque waking you at 4 am

 

[Scouse]

From your article:

Researcher Ludi Simpson says that the growth of ethnic minorities in Britain is due mostly to natural population growth (births outnumber deaths) rather than immigration. Both white and non-white Britons who can do so economically are equally likely to leave mixed-race inner-city areas. In his opinion, these trends indicate counter urbanisation rather than white flight

You earn more, you move to a nicer area. Economy is disproportionately skewed towards whites.

It's not people moving because muslims moved in. It's people moving because they can - including well off ethnic minorities.


You're so blinkered that you can't even correctly read the "facts" that you thought you'd found to support your idiot views...

 

[Job]

As I said, it's rich Indians and chinese who have joined white flight.

 

[Hawkwind]

WHITE PRIVILEGE!!! Can't quite believe you went there.

 

[Gwadien]

white flight, lol.

So where I used to live in Nottingham was famous for its Italian migrants up to the early 90s, then it turned pretty Muslim dominant, mainly because small mosques and later larger mosques were put around, both cultures brought lots of their cultures from home with them, is one worse than the other?

 

[Scouse]

white flight.

Aside from the fact that the expert you quoted looked at the demographics, the evidence, and explicitly stated it is NOT "white flight".

But keep on ignoring...

 

[Gwadien]

Also, white people move out to villages and smaller towns away from cities, for numerous reasons. knowing a few of these people, I don't think the influx of Asians had a role in it. Leicestershire is super white white white.

 

[Bodhi]

Not that this has anything to do with the Donald, Comrade Corbyn is just as populist as anything on the alt/far/whatever you are calling it this week right.

Free stuff for everyone!

(Just don't ask how we're going to pay for it, as we haven't a clue).

 

[Raven]

Look, its only populist if you can sneer at it from your ivory tower.

 

[Bodhi]

I frequently sneer at people who believe Steptoe's land of (free) milk and honey, so guess it qualifies then.

 

[Job]

The white peiple leave because the areas become places they dont want to live, then better off immigrants follow them ...mainly Indians atm.
They all havent suddenly decided to leave en masse because of the Jamie Oliver tv show or simerhing.
It IS because of cultural changes caused by immigration.
And to make it double hilarious, its mostly the champagne socialists who are doing it, because they can afford it.
Over yhe next ten years we are going to see a lot of movement up here in the NW as London and Birmingham slowly morph into large scale ghettos and people get on to the fact that its actually really nice up here.
Thats THE conversation we have with southerners.
London is no longer a place they connect with...isnt it nice here.
In other words..isnt it white.

 

[Scouse]

The white peiple leave because the areas become places they dont want to live, then better off immigrants follow them ...mainly Indians atm.

Stop talking shit when you've got people who've spent entire careers examining actual evidence that tell you this is, unequivocally, NOT the case.

It may be a reason you would move - but then you're a horrible racist. It's not the reason why this phenomenom happens. As per the article you thought justified your idiot ideas but which actually refutes them.

You saying it, repeatedly, only serves to bolster your prejudice, it doesn't make it true...

 

[Scouse]

Didn't see this:

Heck, I am a prime example, living in an expat community in Dubai. Hardly any locals live in this area just Western and Asian expats. We've done to areas of Dubai what the Pakistani have done in Slough. Human nature, you flock to areas that best serve your interests. That might be a pub rather than a mosque waking you at 4 am

That doesn't describe white flight - it decribes immigration of like-minded people to an area. Nobody says that birds of a feather don't flock together.

What job's saying is white people leave areas because of brown people - and the evidence doesn't support his argument. People leave for better areas because they get wealthier as they get older - and the demographics show that it happens equally for white/brown/yellow/green people when they get to a certain level of wealth. So it's not "white flight" but economic drivers that move people.

Add to that the double-whammy of immigrants tending to be poor so they head to poorer areas and them being less likely to get to that economic standard (at least first and second generation) then there's an inward concentration of minority ethnic people over time - not a flight of white people because they hate the browns.

What I like about these areas is the diversity tbh. I tend to go to these places a lot. Yes, they're rough and tumble (to be expected) but the food's great and they feel alive - unlike old, staid but prettier parts of blighty.

 

[Lakih]

I moved from an extremely white town to a small town with lots of hispanics, I must be doing this white flight wrong.

 

[Raven]

Who the fuck cares if people you don't like based on their colour/culture want to move into cities? Absolute holes for the most part.

 

[Tom]

You can see patterns of movement in the construction of towns and cities. The older, grander properties, those once occupied by rich merchants, were close to the city centre. Then the railways came, and those people, now wealthier, moved further out to the new suburbs that the railways enabled (I live near one such railway town). Then the car came, and those same people moved further out still, because they had the money to do that.

It's easy to do, the next time you're in a large town or city, pay attention to the housing design the closer in you get. What's generally missing are the multitudes of extremely low quality back to back terraced housing that were demolished in the 50s and 60s.

 

[Hawkwind]

Well in the 60s in the UK there was a plan to move city dwellers (mostly London) out to the "new towns" like Basingstoke, Reading and Milton Keynes. They built thousands of low cost houses and council rents, along with jobs. Industry enticed with motorway and rail links plus tax breaks and land to build their factories. In their place they built modern office blocks for banks etc. Effort to move away from industry to service.

There were the earlier new towns in 40s and 50s as well like Harlow, stevenage, East Kilbride... All efforts to depopulate the cities.

They are also trying again in 2017 with the governments "Garden Towns" plan. Nothing new just the same old plans to kick people out of cities and into the countryside.

 

[Raven]

I wish they would stop tbh, we don't need the great unwashed.

 

[caLLous]

It was only a matter of time before he started making countries up...

Nambia: Trump praises nonexistent African country - CNN

 

[Gwadien]

It was only a matter of time before he started making countries up...

Nambia: Trump praises nonexistent African country - CNN

Nambia was a Kingdom around the Roman period if my Total War knowledge is not incorrect.

 

[caLLous]

Did you get to it through a wardrobe?

 

[Raven]

When a single letter causes so much fuss

Serious business.

OMG lol he might be plunging the world into nuclear war but never mind all that, he said a word wrong #covfefenambialol #bzzzzzzzz

 

[Raven]

Trump ramps up N Korea sanctions

Seems China is towing the line, after all.

 

[Hawkwind]

It was only a matter of time before he started making countries up...

Nambia: Trump praises nonexistent African country - CNN

One letter out, hardly worthy of attention but with the left leaning CNN crusade they will cling to anything.