The catastrof in asia

Kokelimonkelmedisin

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I just think its wierd that noone knew about this down there before it happened.
I mean dont they have like weatherstations and seismograf (thingys) that monitor
these kinds of things?

Anyhow I didnt give any money as the person at the mall who was collecting the
money seemed kinda retarded just leaning on a wall with closed eyes.

But a mate of mine works at red cross and he collected over 100 000£ just today
in this city only so I recon they are ok for money when they add everything up.
 

[NO]Subedai

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aye as a previous poster said, the Tsunamis hit the Tourist area. And alot of the stuff u hear on the news is about tourists and how traumatised they are or about how many Tourists are dead. You rarely here much about the local people living there. Quite sad really, and just shows us what Human Nature is like.

Its not just the loss of life, and no amount of money will ever repair what has happened. The areas that got destroyed were amongst the richest in many of the countries effected, e.g Thailand's whole Tourish industry got crippled.
 

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Kokelimonkelmedisin said:
I just think its wierd that noone knew about this down there before it happened.
I mean dont they have like weatherstations and seismograf (thingys) that monitor
these kinds of things?

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They knew about it 1hour before it happened, but someone didnt think it would be a good idea to warn them incase the wave wasnt big enought to be a threat
 

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The bad thing is that they need Tourists to keep going to the holiday sites so their economy can grow etc, people will be frightened off i think, i know i would with bodies everywhere :( - really bad news :(
 

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i wonder what they do with all the money generated by tourism.I mean like there's 1,000's go there all year round.Where does all the money go?
 

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just a suggestion to try keep everyone happy, not that you're trying to make everyone happy but i'll say it anyway because i can (for the moment atleast :p) put this topic in general, and put a sticky with a link to this thread at the top of this page. that way you wont get whine about it, or atleast you shouldnt, just a suggestion
 

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The bad thing is that they need Tourists to keep going to the holiday sites so their economy can grow etc, people will be frightened off i think, i know i would with bodies everywhere :( - really bad news :(

Actually here in denmark a lot of turists have actually taken this oppetunity to go there and offer their help .... :D
 

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Iorlas said:
i wonder what they do with all the money generated by tourism.I mean like there's 1,000's go there all year round.Where does all the money go?

i think alot of it is wasted in corruption :( besides i doubt Tourisnmn generates enough money to sustain their economy. But its certaintly important.
 

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Aybabtu said:
Actually here in denmark a lot of turists have actually taken this oppetunity to go there and offer their help .... :D

Not for holidays though? Its not like you can Sun Bathe on the Beach
 

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Kokelimonkelmedisin said:
I just think its wierd that noone knew about this down there before it happened.
I mean dont they have like weatherstations and seismograf (thingys) that monitor these kinds of things?

Afaik they don't have any seismography stations in the indian ocean, only the pacific and other oceans where this kind of thing is regular. So they didn't really have any forewarning of the event (thats from what i gathered about the disaster).
 

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Not for holidays though? Its not like you can Sun Bathe on the Beach


well... no you cant, because it isnt there anymore.....

me and the fam donated all the cash we were going to spend on fireworks for this year to 555 (dutch fund thingy)

evend up to 350euros....

i hope it helps
 

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tedStar said:
well... no you cant, because it isnt there anymore.....

me and the fam donated all the cash we were going to spend on fireworks for this year to 555 (dutch fund thingy)

evend up to 350euros....

i hope it helps

Thats partly my point, they will need Tourists to go and spend their money there.
 

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Not for holidays though? Its not like you can Sun Bathe on the Beach

for the first few months no thx, there are prolly much dead body's in the sea who can "come" on the beach anytime.

First thing they have to do is to get rid of all those bodies (how cru it might be) as there are sooo many diseases (sp.) ready to attack :(
 

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Ok, one more time for those of you that didn't get it the first time. The topic will stay here. The title is obvious enough to prevent misclicking so noone accidently comes here.

So stop moaning about rvr related or not cause i simply do not care about your opinion on if this topic is justified or not. Normally i do, this time i don't.
 

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I heard people know what was coming 2 hours before only they didnt know it was so dangerous and were afraid it might harm tourism if they warned people when there was no need to do so.

Imagine how many lives could have been saved in those two hours...
 

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o well bit late to start thinking about things like that unfortunatly!
 

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Ziva said:
I heard people know what was coming 2 hours before only they didnt know it was so dangerous and were afraid it might harm tourism if they warned people when there was no need to do so.

Imagine how many lives could have been saved in those two hours...

omg we could have send you in time :'((((((((
 

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Votan said:
Those people still have relatives/families that may or may not have survived the disaster and they require help.. as do all the other survivors.
You seem to be "blessed" with some sort of total ignorancy that clouds your extremely limited vision on what is actually important in life.. screw the game, it can and most probably will be replaced; human life cannot be replaced. Please crawl back under the rock that you came from.. :m00:
[NO]Magmatic said:
What matters is how the survivers get back to their 'normal' lives...
I did not disregard any human life, I said that you shouldnt drag on about the people that died, because its too late for them... What you have to think about is the survivers... If I disregarded so much, how come I donated $10 to the Red Cross...

I expressed my fealings about the place of this thread, its been said by the mods that they will keep it here fine... Thats their choice and as such I wont open that discussion... I've had my word on that in my previous post...

But that has absolutely nothing to do with the disaster...

What I dont get though is why people say : omg 140.000 dead ... And why they dont say : omg 1.000.000 people dont have homes now... Because those that are dead, although might not be what you want to hear, are not the ones that need help... The number of deaths, in one way, doesnt even matter... As thats a statistic that cant be changed, cant be lowered... The number of people in need of help is much more important... But you dont hear that number, do you... Its only been mentioned a couple of times, but its not one thats been in the news a lot...

There have been plenty of disasters where equal number of people have lost their homes, yet they did not recieve such help as the ones in asia are getting now, because of lower (western?) body count... Even I have to say that this is the first time I've donated money for relief efforts... Perhaps I'm turning into an old softy...

I feel sorry for the people that have lost friends / family there, I feel sorry for the people that have lost their homes... I wont lose sleep over it, and I wont cry over it at night... Might get a sad feeling inside when I watch the news, but thats a bit where it ends...
 

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nice idea donating, but why post it to FH as here is 50% at least useless shits that cant think further than their own ass.

200k deads there will be, if they dont get help soon 200k more will die to kolera and stuff.

5.000.000 peeps r homeless

in hospitals they have impossible jobs to do , there r peeps waiting to get help but no1 has time.

europe countries have sent hospital planes to get their country mans out from there so they dont die at hospitals.


finland and sweden have 1.1 national sorrow day for victims, finland will have 300ish deads, sweden 1400ish. 10 year kids and under lost everything , familys, relatives etc etc.

and yes this has nothing to do in game, it was just a question from sorre that some peeps will look little further than their own nose.

and about last years dmg at holland, u maybe lost 80k , and dont lie u didnt get nothing from no where, as u did, if u didnt then u didnt have insurance stuff right so u can blame yourself.

and those peeps who got injured there , did they died in hospital because there wasnt enough time to treat them, i doubt it.

skandinavians have sent special doctor groups so they can save those peeps who saved from the waves.

and yes FH is place to moan but moan game related shit not these kind of things , but i cant help if u think like 12 year old whose parents r alive.


also they got probs there that help is stuck in main airports as the transport stuff is so fucked up at areas where it is needed.

think your city, think how it would look like when 80% from everything is destroyed. after that pic u can start moaning here that this aint rvr related, ktxhbbqq
 

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[NO]Magmatic said:
What I dont get though is why people say : omg 140.000 dead ... And why they dont say : omg 1.000.000 people dont have homes now... Because those that are dead, although might not be what you want to hear, are not the ones that need help... The number of deaths, in one way, doesnt even matter... As thats a statistic that cant be changed, cant be lowered... The number of people in need of help is much more important... But you dont hear that number, do you... Its only been mentioned a couple of times, but its not one thats been in the news a lot...

I think people quote the death toll to give an idea of the scope of the disaster - if you know 140000 people have died then you will also probably understand that x100 that number are beeing affected by those deaths and the forces that caused it.
But yes you are right that its important to think foremost about those poor people beeing left behind, without their homes and loves ones, without work or income, and in terrible sanitary conditions.
 

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Fin said:
and about last years dmg at holland, u maybe lost 80k , and dont lie u didnt get nothing from no where, as u did, if u didnt then u didnt have insurance stuff right so u can blame yourself.
Actually insurances don't cover natural disasters as floods, so that don't apply here, but i seriously doubt the guy anyway. :)

What i find a bit disgusting is how the media in Finland is reacting to it. All the time in the news you hear about the "tragic number of deaths" when at worst only 260-280 of our citizens are dead. Compared to the numbers that died and are left homeless without clothes or food, that's not really so tragic. :(
 

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Not for holidays though? Its not like you can Sun Bathe on the Beach

They travel there to help, even during the holiday..... One can only have respect for that kind of unselfish behavior(sp?) :)
 

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Ziva said:
I heard people know what was coming 2 hours before only they didnt know it was so dangerous and were afraid it might harm tourism if they warned people when there was no need to do so.

Imagine how many lives could have been saved in those two hours...

not as many as u wuld think, the highest Tourismn area was Thailand (not that bad effected) however notice how its alllways Thailand that is mentioned. Most the deaths werent in Tourismn areas afaik, but in many of the poorer coastal area, they prolly had no idea atall what was coming to them.
 

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I saw on tv most ppl didnt know anything about it until the first wave hit them, which i think went all the way upto the road along the coast in a clip i saw. they thought it was over and didnt move to higher ground, then the next destructive wave hit.
Think they estimated the rebuilding costs to be around £16bil in total for all places that got hit, so the more ppl that pledge the more likely they'll hit that target :)
 

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Something i don't understand is. The Tourists who died at the Beaches. Before the Tsunami hits the Beach the Water goes away bigtime to build up the big Wave. At this Point i would start to run like hell. But many of them just died at the Beach not realising what is going on until the Wave reached the Beach. And i have seen Videos in TV where Ppl started to WALK away from the Water who flooded the Streets until they got washed away.

We live in a World of Information. And Catastrophes like this are well known.Reportages, Cinema Movies...etc.

:(
 

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Something i don't understand is. The albs who died at emain. Before the savage hits their Back they Will get mezzed away bigtime to build up the big Quad. At this Point i would start to run like hell. But many of them just died at the amg not realising what is going on until the Claws reached their spine. And i have seen rvr Videos where Ppl started to WALK away from the savage who stunned them Straight until they got quadded to death.

We play in a game of great information etc. And savages like Mumin are well known. FH posts, ircwhiners, deathspamms...etc.

:(
 

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Jaapi said:
Actually insurances don't cover natural disasters as floods, so that don't apply here, but i seriously doubt the guy anyway. :)

What i find a bit disgusting is how the media in Finland is reacting to it. All the time in the news you hear about the "tragic number of deaths" when at worst only 260-280 of our citizens are dead. Compared to the numbers that died and are left homeless without clothes or food, that's not really so tragic. :(
Same stuff here, they keep going on about how "THREE" dutch people died there (or it's 10 by now, whatever), I mean, who gives a flying fuck about any specific info innit when opposed to those 3>10 theres 200~k who also lost their lives.

Then again, the media totally fucking sucks anywhere, always have to blow stuff up.

***** :(

Edit: Why can I say fuck, but not *****? Because the media are ***** :p
 

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