Ooops albs did it again...

Frozodo

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Kinag said:
Congratulations, what was the time? 4am?

I just don't get it, I really don't.

i think he got what he wanted again alot of attention...
 

Kinag

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He won't get it unless someone spells it out for him in French.
 

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Kinag said:
He won't get it unless someone spells it out for him in French.

whats spelling "it" in french gonna do, is there even a word for "it" in french?
 

Jobbegea

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Darzil said:
He didn't announce one on Alb, only an RvR event. Darzil


I guess this will be one of many upcoming raids which will hopefully change the shitty late night raiding attitude on this cluster.

guess what realm he was targetting there. and hibs didn't do AC lately.
 

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Ging said:
whats spelling "it" in french gonna do, is there even a word for "it" in french?

Don't know, I don't even speak any french so I'm not the one to comment on it.

But I just don't get why they do stuff like this, and they need to know that it hurts other people who's playing the game.
 

Icebreaker

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Kinag said:
Congratulations, what was the time? 4am?

I just don't get it, I really don't.

Well they are just doing it to piss people of.This kind of people do exist in all mmorpgs.just like the Nerner Guy on the us servers.They just do it another way and hiding it behind stupid excuses.

And Horner is a poor person.I feel sorry for him. Always alone with his bb in a mmorpg...kinda sad isn't it? ^^
 

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Kinag said:
That would be a good option indeed, I'll agree with that.

I personally wouldn't mind losing the one power relic which had been AC'ed from you, but I really doubt it would stop there, people would be hungry for more revenge and you probably would have continued with the other relics.

Yup, almost certainly right in the current climate. I guess people need a week or two to settle down, get a low key raid of hurb and reclaim relic and there will be a bit of an equilibrium for a while until the next early morning raid brought on by boredom and the need to seek attention.

At least alb str and pwr relics would be relatively easy to take back, if the raiders themselves could resist the temptation of going for the homeland relics.
 

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I just hope the hibs can re-establish some balance tonight, but I expect a good defense as albs seem to get some spirit back.
 

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Icebreaker said:
Well they are just doing it to piss people of.This kind of people do exist in all mmorpgs.just like the Nerner Guy on the us servers.They just do it another way and hiding it behind stupid excuses.

And Horner is a poor person.I feel sorry for him. Always alone with his bb in a mmorpg...kinda sad isn't it? ^^

Used to be guilded with Horner, I left the Guild due to inactivity and when i saw him next he called me a traitor.........????

I first thought that my ears had grown points and i began hugging trees, but no ....it was a hornerism.

Horner does things HIs way, he used to join the guild grps but get real arsey when we died... thus he solos with his di bot as no other fooker will grp with him.

but look at it this way, in time of old he would be proclaimed a hero for his actions against other realms, and a KOS by those realms.

You guys think so much in a 20th century way, the game is based 11th-14 century so think like a knight, castor etc etc ROLE PLAY FTW
 

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Kinag said:
I just hope the hibs can re-establish some balance tonight, but I expect a good defense as albs seem to get some spirit back.

Really they should just stay at home today and let CM and friends handle the defence.So they can see how fun it is to be totally helpless. ^^

Ah no wait they don't play at this time.
 

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I will probably help defend if the albion relics will be under attack, but I'm probably not gonna help if the hib power relic is under attack.
 

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Thlauni said:
Well there is one obvious solution to this. Hibgard got to keep on against Albs. I for one will from now on always choose albs before mids whenever I see a target (don't worry, this wont stop me from attacking mids).

I guess the albs likes being the shunned realm, perhaps we could also continue taking the fight to alb land more often. And, as with most immature cry babies, if we get hold of their relics on a bit more permanent basis, they will stop playing alb and switch to, hopefully, midgard, as I for sure don't want them im Hib ;-)

And of course, if Mythic/GOA really wanted to solve this, just merge the European and US servers, would solve the population problem, and would allow for around the clock action.

Just one last comment. What they do ain't illigal, and is a very viable way of getting hold of relics, so in my opinion you all should consider a little less whining about what others do, and a bit more contructiveness in regard to what you can do.

Albion has always been, and will always be the "shunned" realm - in OF it was "Albs Zerg", in NF it was "Albs are lame Zerg and bridge camp", recently it was "Albs are lame they wont allow insta-rvr in their realm" (i think you'll find theres a good reason for that with the Hibguard alliance running...and despite that face everytime alb sets up irvr in another realm it lasts <24 hours), and most recently its "Albs are lame for Night raiding".

In short, every alb could grow a fucking Halo and a pair of wings tomorrow and we'd still get shit thrown at us on a regular basis.

In short - even if people stopped taking relics back in the early hours, the whine would continue. We're the pariahs of the game - most of us albs know it, and don't give a crap anymore what insults get thrown at us. I fully expect to log on tomorrow night having been hibguarded again tonight.

Its a vicious circle of "we get ganged up on" followed by "we retake the relics in the early hours" followed by "we get ganged up on because we retook the relics" etc etc. Its here to stay and is being perpetuated by the other realms as much as Albion, so live with it or cancel your subscriptions.
 

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Blow said:
im to tired to give a better answer then the following. Mid took strenght relic cause of the help of the very great hib attack on albion, so you dont deserve it in my eyes. Hibs would of won without mid help so i cant say there is any hibguard atm... mids/hibs would loose those relics anyway cause we (albs) are outnumbering you in midnight.

I was guessing (hoping) that hibs whould have more advantage of this massive realm event, by taking there own relic back, and an alb relic.

Albs can play good, but cannot play as groups together... we see on this forum well before that hibs will do a massive attack... and still lots of people are on an ml raid etc...

I only can say gratz to Hibs that they can show there skill and there cooperation. Albion can learn alot of that (realm) teamwork.

And yes i dont feel nice to say that we where not able to help as CM to defend that keep captures in our realms cause we where just not able to be online at that time.

Big gratz for the hibs for this good organized raid again.

just drop the mid/hib-alliance bs and i agree with you completely.
 

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TheBinarySurfer said:
Albion has always been, and will always be the "shunned" realm - in OF it was "Albs Zerg", in NF it was "Albs are lame Zerg and bridge camp", recently it was "Albs are lame they wont allow insta-rvr in their realm" (i think you'll find theres a good reason for that with the Hibguard alliance running...and despite that face everytime alb sets up irvr in another realm it lasts <24 hours), and most recently its "Albs are lame for Night raiding".

In short, every alb could grow a fucking Halo and a pair of wings tomorrow and we'd still get shit thrown at us on a regular basis.

In short - even if people stopped taking relics back in the early hours, the whine would continue. We're the pariahs of the game - most of us albs know it, and don't give a crap anymore what insults get thrown at us. I fully expect to log on tomorrow night having been hibguarded again tonight.

Its a vicious circle of "we get ganged up on" followed by "we retake the relics in the early hours" followed by "we get ganged up on because we retook the relics" etc etc. Its here to stay and is being perpetuated by the other realms as much as Albion, so live with it or cancel your subscriptions.

Sorry, disagree with you on this. It can take time to throw off a bad reputation, but it can be done. Its actions that have persisted albion's bad reputation, these actions continue today, and judging by the attitudes of the few are going to continue. Anyway, i should heed my own advice and not give those people who besmerch the reputations of the majority of alb players the attention they crave.

To bastardise Spock, 'The actions of the few fuckup the reputations of the many.' ;)
 

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pjuppe said:
just drop the mid/hib-alliance bs and i agree with you completely.

There isn't a hib/mid alliance.

Alb attacks Hib, Mid attacks Alb.
Hib attacks Alb, Mid attacks Alb.

In the first scenario, Alb attack on Hib fails (2vs1)
In the second scenario, Hib attack on Alb succeeds (2vs1)

At a tactical level, hibs and mids frequently fight.
At a strategic level, hibs and mids rarely fight.

I may be wrong. Maybe when Hibs attack Alb tonight, Mids will attack Hib.

Darzil
 

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Darzil said:
I may be wrong. Maybe when Hibs attack Alb tonight, Mids will attack Hib.

Darzil
Or maybe, if albs ever decide to attack hib when anyone's online, mids will follow their tradition and leech on that?

We fought more mids than albs yesterday, if it hadn't been for good tactics and some luck on their part we would have taken the alb strength relic for hib instead of the mids getting it.

All the whine that "if hibs attack alb, mids help them but if we (albs) attack hib then mids attack our own frontier to save their hib m8s" has really no merit since albs never do large scale attacks for the mids to leech off of.
 

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That guild should be removed from the alliance for bringing shame to albion,and if that guild does not get moved you all in that alliance should suffer from there actions in game,if the albs can't do nothing about em i'm sure hibs/mids can't:( Mythic should do something about these ass holes imo strip there realm points:) any thing that unbalances this game is not good for no 1
 
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I am an alb, I love to alarm clock raid, I'm a lot younger than the big adults in Midgard and Hibernia, my intelligence is many many IQ points lower than your average genius Mid and Hib player. I always run about in Rogs because I am an alb! I always zerg, because I'm an alb!


Ok.
 

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Arathan said:
We fought more mids than albs yesterday, if it hadn't been for good tactics and some luck on their part we would have taken the alb strength relic for hib instead of the mids getting it.

Of course you fought more Mids than Hibs, both were roaming the realm of Albion whilst Albion tried to muster enough defenders to defend one point, which you then generally didn't attack.

I've not accused Mid and Hib as being friends. I think Mid prefers to attack Alb than Hib, I've not said anything about them being friends, or about Hib preferences.

Darzil
 

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Samaroon|Terracotta said:
I am an alb, I love to alarm clock raid, I'm a lot younger than the big adults in Midgard and Hibernia, my intelligence is many many IQ points lower than your average genius Mid and Hib player. I always run about in Rogs because I am an alb! I always zerg, because I'm an alb!


Ok.

Of course its a generic statement and hence plenty of exceptions but there is a definite difference in the mentality of the distribution of players. Im an alb too :p. I also played hib for a while and joined a Mastade MARR and hats off a) to mastade for being a brilliant leader, and b) for the rest of the BG for following without question what he says. Ever been in an Alb BG and wondered who is leading and wtf is going on?

Also from my experience in Hib, there is a tendancy (under normal circumstances - not IRVR) to run a fg and not add on fellow citizens. Maybe this is because there is more cooperation and less soloers but there is a noticeable difference I think.
 

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Kinag said:
I will probably help defend if the albion relics will be under attack, but I'm probably not gonna help if the hib power relic is under attack.

I dont agree with alarm clock raids
I hate relic raids even more
I dont even know if we have any relics or even care if we dont

BUT me and my guild will be out tonight for sure to rip the hibs some new assholes simply because half of you hibs have a "we are superior" attitude that quite simply i dont like. Whether it's defending ren, hurb or something else. We will be there.
 

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Littles said:
I dont agree with alarm clock raids
I hate relic raids even more
I dont even know if we have any relics or even care if we dont

BUT me and my guild will be out tonight for sure to rip the hibs some new assholes simply because half of you hibs have a "we are superior" attitude that quite simply i dont like. Whether it's defending ren, hurb or something else. We will be there.

I'll get the benny hill music ready for when we try enter a keep with 100+ hibs attacking :>
 

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fyi the maximum the BG reached was 148, have a screenie at home to prove it. And i can tell you that all of those numbers were not with the zerg most of the time.

Logged in at 7.30 and surs was down and port literally just opened as NFD GG1 were leaving looking for agramon fights. 30 mins later bold fell, 125 in BG at this point, and seemed all the action was in fact in alb so i decided we should roam looking for fights there.

After all bold was taken, the zerg went for Beno, while hibs were on beno the middies (this is when the mids started) attacked Eras, and took it down just after beno was taken and this opened the Str Relic gate.

While the mids were finishing at Eras, Hibs took Berks and the rest of the towers of Beno so we could port between surs and beno. This also opened the power relic.

We then went down and took the power relic from albion and at the same time the mids took the Str relic.

Hibs were aware of this and tbh, majorly pissed off because the mids abused our hard work, so we went in search of them and found the mids like a big barrier to the east of Boldiam and my grp was steamrolled, locs were posted all over the BG looking for a slow moving mid grp, but we couldn't find anything.

Both relics were placed safely in both mid/hib keeps at this point.

While we were on Hurb, mids took Beno and Berks and all of the towers surrounding for some odd reason and even a group or 2 disturbing us down at Hurb.

Now tell me is this mid/hib co-operating or doing what any realm would do?#

Overall i enjoyed last night, nice to see hibs together like this. But saddened that Albs are still lame as ever, time differance is one thing that kills this game but one thing the people who do AC raids must understand is that they don't have to AC raid the relics, they would just leave them or do what hib/mid has proposed and just have relics balanced. Doing this would prevent the flaming and the tense relationship between all realms.

Soz if this dont make sense, i'm in college class and typing like a maniac :p
 

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Darzil said:
Of course you fought more Mids than Hibs, both were roaming the realm of Albion whilst Albion tried to muster enough defenders to defend one point, which you then generally didn't attack.

I've not accused Mid and Hib as being friends. I think Mid prefers to attack Alb than Hib, I've not said anything about them being friends, or about Hib preferences.

Darzil

(My computer rebooted spontaneously while I was typing a more eloquent and detailed answer but cba to type it again so I'll try to be brief instead >_>)

My point is simply that there is absolutely no reason to say that mids would not do the exact same thing to hib if albs attacked hib as they did to alb when hib attacked alb, in fact I would be very surprised if they didn't.

(Oh, and Hurbury was practically impossible to take with all those albs in it. Our trebs went down as fast as we could set them up and the lowest we got a wall section to was 70%, thus why we didn't bother to keep trying to take it and just retook crim before disbanding the raid.)
 

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Cameron said:
Of course its a generic statement and hence plenty of exceptions but there is a definite difference in the mentality of the distribution of players. Im an alb too :p. I also played hib for a while and joined a Mastade MARR and hats off a) to mastade for being a brilliant leader, and b) for the rest of the BG for following without question what he says. Ever been in an Alb BG and wondered who is leading and wtf is going on?

Also from my experience in Hib, there is a tendancy (under normal circumstances - not IRVR) to run a fg and not add on fellow citizens. Maybe this is because there is more cooperation and less soloers but there is a noticeable difference I think.

I think there are differences out there. Some are related to population, I reckon.

I've mostly seen it on Albion, as thats where I play 95% of the time (have no one over 20 on Hib or Mid). Pre-cluster, and post-cluster, frontier and ML raids are very, very different. My take on it is that as Prydwen Albs couldn't zerg MLs, they got better organised, as organisation and listening is a requirement if you don't have the numbers. I guess the numbers carried the day in RvR too, so no need to get organised. Hib Pryd got very organised and effective pre-cluster.

Fast forward to today, and what we have is Alb used to not having to be organised, and an organised Hib. Hence what happened last night - nearly twice as many Hibs in BG (according to Penlid above) as I saw in the Alb defence BG. Add to that that the Hibs were better organised (as the aggressor you control the time and place of initial action, and can prepare your groups to be balanced before setting out), and Alb is going to struggle. Add Mids attacking other keeps, and you're reduced to having to pick one thing and defend it - in this case Hurb, whilst watching everything else burn and know you can't do anything to prevent it.

I don't know how we can Alb get back to a stronger position. Anyone who tries to lead is pretty much doomed to failure against the current opposition. As a result, many won't follow them. It's hard to build a reputation on serial failure. As Mid and Hib often seem to post here that Alb has superior RvR numbers, you can't blame underdog status, and both prefer to attack the superior population.

Any suggestions ? How can Alb get stronger ?

Darzil
 

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Arathan said:
My point is simply that there is absolutely no reason to say that mids would not do the exact same thing to hib if albs attacked hib as they did to alb when hib attacked alb, in fact I would be very surprised if they didn't.

My point is simply that if this has happened, I've not seen it. Each Alb raid I've been on into Hib has been called back to defend Alb against Mid.

Darzil
 

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Darzil said:
My point is simply that if this has happened, I've not seen it. Each Alb raid I've been on into Hib has been called back to defend Alb against Mid.

Darzil

what raids? haven't seen one :D
 

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been retired from DAoC for a few months now, rly funny to read this shit from outside the addiction :D

u have my sympathies, and my pitty :(
 

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Kerith said:
been retired from DAoC for a few months now, rly funny to read this shit from outside the addiction :D

u have my sympathies, and my pitty :(
then you return now? :(
 

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