Ooops albs did it again...
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Darzil
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Gahn said:
The Hibs chose to go and hit Alb, it was an organised event. The Alb defenders are the ones who have to chose between doing what they were planning to do, or defending the realm.
Last night I logged on about 8pm planning to go to the first ML5 I've been able to get onto in months. At that point, Surs was down, Bold was down, Beno was under attack by Hibs, Eras was under attack by Mids, and the guardspam at Beno alone was much more than Alb had in it's defence BG (which is even more significant as attacking BG's are generally better balanced than defending ones).
I then had an evening which involved going to defend one point, and having a small enemy force do nothing but keep us there whilst another one hit another point. I barely saw any action, save when our group got wiped by a group of high RR hibs when we went to hit Bold. We were never going to win against more organised opposition that outnumbered us and was attacking at two points simultaneously. Only way to counter that is with an organised high RR group recapturing stuff and bombing the enemy zerg at the same time, and I don't believe there was any such Alb group last night.
So personally, rather than bang my head against that brick wall, I went and got ML5. Relic gates had both fallen before I went on ML5, neither relic had reached it's new home before it finished, and the defence of Hurb (which sounds like the fun part of the night for Alb) hadn't started. Judging from that, had I stayed, it'd have made no difference. Sadly, as I had an early start this morning, I had to crash at that point.
Darzil
I don't mind the AC raids particularly as all realms do them one way or another. On the one hand they do suck but on the other hand it does add some balance to the game because it doesn't rely on who has the biggest zerg.
What does upset me though is that it is now so much more important to defend any captured relics above your own relics.
To re-capture your own relic - Take 1 keep
To capture another realms relic - Take 3 keeps
Last night this was the enitre alb tactic. Defend Hurbury at all costs and we can retake our own when hibs/mids go to bed. The group I was in killed many many more hibs yesterday than albs even though I was with the zerg that took ALB str relic from the temple.
I feel there needs to be some change in the game mechanics to solve this though. I am sure the hib relic will be retaken "offpeak".
What does upset me though is that it is now so much more important to defend any captured relics above your own relics.
To re-capture your own relic - Take 1 keep
To capture another realms relic - Take 3 keeps
Last night this was the enitre alb tactic. Defend Hurbury at all costs and we can retake our own when hibs/mids go to bed. The group I was in killed many many more hibs yesterday than albs even though I was with the zerg that took ALB str relic from the temple.
I feel there needs to be some change in the game mechanics to solve this though. I am sure the hib relic will be retaken "offpeak".
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tribute said:
Merlin cried a river about some missing "broom" in the middle of the night. some poor pesants couldnt stand the agony and horror screaming , so they went on a looong journey to retrieve it.
The stlong pack of CM was given the task
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What a fucking joke...
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Its funny that the number og hibs attacking is increased in every new post, as far as i know it were 115ish.
Second of all, EVERY1 knew this would happen, or otherwise ure just plain stupid. We all know the albs, or lets say that certain part of the albs. They will retake the relics no matter what. It must have taken em long enough to do so, otherwis eim pretty sure another relic would have fallen as well.
When mids tookd the relic home, my suggestion to the RL was to just drop the relic somewhere in a corner, cause were not gone keep it anyway, well at least i was wrong in 1 thing, Midgard is still blue.
Enjoy ure whining to eachother, it wont help a single thing except maybe piss eachother off.
Last thing: About the 3 realms. Albs whining about mids coming after hibs attack you, is just plain normal for SOOOO many reasons.
1) All alb/hib is there, ppl want rp's.
2) no fun in pveing the hib keeps, when all hib is in alb.
3) We are angry that albs keep pveing keeps in the night as well.
Also, If albion would actually come of her ass and attack a realm they would perhaps get a support of a third realm as well, but as albs rather stay home and wait till some AC-ers take irvr for them, it will never happen.
Vav.
Second of all, EVERY1 knew this would happen, or otherwise ure just plain stupid. We all know the albs, or lets say that certain part of the albs. They will retake the relics no matter what. It must have taken em long enough to do so, otherwis eim pretty sure another relic would have fallen as well.
When mids tookd the relic home, my suggestion to the RL was to just drop the relic somewhere in a corner, cause were not gone keep it anyway, well at least i was wrong in 1 thing, Midgard is still blue.
Enjoy ure whining to eachother, it wont help a single thing except maybe piss eachother off.
Last thing: About the 3 realms. Albs whining about mids coming after hibs attack you, is just plain normal for SOOOO many reasons.
1) All alb/hib is there, ppl want rp's.
2) no fun in pveing the hib keeps, when all hib is in alb.
3) We are angry that albs keep pveing keeps in the night as well.
Also, If albion would actually come of her ass and attack a realm they would perhaps get a support of a third realm as well, but as albs rather stay home and wait till some AC-ers take irvr for them, it will never happen.
Vav.
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every alb is a fucking joke in this game.
they say: " i am against early morning raids"
And look who are supporting/defending the early morning capped relics.
if we gonna siege hurbury tonight, hurbury will be loaded with albs, even retards that say " i am against AC raids" are there defending.
and midgard shouldn't whine tho.
since last SUCCESFULL PRIMETIME raid on alb, midgard AC'd it the next day from hib, 1-2months ago
they say: " i am against early morning raids"
And look who are supporting/defending the early morning capped relics.
if we gonna siege hurbury tonight, hurbury will be loaded with albs, even retards that say " i am against AC raids" are there defending.
and midgard shouldn't whine tho.
since last SUCCESFULL PRIMETIME raid on alb, midgard AC'd it the next day from hib, 1-2months ago
Its Simple
1) ALBS and HIBS are different - Albs are young, dont listen, zerg, rog etc, Hibs are more mature, intelligent etc... This is not going to change
2) Hibs organise MARR when ML raid on... (good timing) but given past history albs never leave a ML raid because of 1) so having a hib MARR with 40 albs defending is tantamount to a steamroller event (a.k.a not much difference to PvE) which it was. I know albs have the choice to defend but read 1) they WONT and they NEVER will.
3) Certain Albs play late so its in their interests too to take relics given they cant defend primetime in 2) because a) they are not there, b) they will lose anyway because of 2).
Thats it - its simple. It will Never change. Thats Life. People are different. Stop the whine.
1) ALBS and HIBS are different - Albs are young, dont listen, zerg, rog etc, Hibs are more mature, intelligent etc... This is not going to change
2) Hibs organise MARR when ML raid on... (good timing) but given past history albs never leave a ML raid because of 1) so having a hib MARR with 40 albs defending is tantamount to a steamroller event (a.k.a not much difference to PvE) which it was. I know albs have the choice to defend but read 1) they WONT and they NEVER will.
3) Certain Albs play late so its in their interests too to take relics given they cant defend primetime in 2) because a) they are not there, b) they will lose anyway because of 2).
Thats it - its simple. It will Never change. Thats Life. People are different. Stop the whine.
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Jobbegea said:
He didn't announce one on Alb, only an RvR event. He could have attacked the realm not on the ML raid, but didn't (arguably because of the AC raid).
Maybe things will be different tonight when there isn't an ML raid (though not sure how much, as a large % of Albion players are PvE only - of a 100 person ML, I reckon only 25-40% will go RvR if it was abandoned).
I'll be out there if the 8 man raid I'm on gets cancelled. If it doesn't, I'll be on that raid, as I've given my word, and I don't like to break it.
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Jobbegea said:
Cameron said:
Calling albs immature and less intelligent isn't actually what I would call mature.
Those albs who were defending last night were defending from two sides, should we just let you have everything?
Give me a break.
And yes, I am against early morning raids, who are you to question that?
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The solution is not to give those AC'in albs the attention they obviously crave. Leave 'em to fester, let those albs who can see why the play is lame and ultimately destructive to the cluster as a whole put pressure on them, the best way to do this is indirectly by not joining the defence of ill gotten relics. Go farm incoming mids instead.
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Jobbegea said:
I AM AGAINST AC RAIDING! you don't get this do you.
Ok, let's retype this
I'm an alb that want clean faights, i rarely add i try to tell people not to kill soloers unless we are attackec by him. I don't go on ac raids and i don't support them in any way.
NO! becasue i'm an alb with a different attiutude than those, i like sieging. I am HEAVILY against ac raids, best if if we could leave the relics alone.
I don't want to say but can you fucking stop place every alb over the same coam. All albs aren't like that. and i explained my play stule there and don't see how i deserve to be called for retarded?
I HATE the albs with the attitude who continues to ac the relics. IMHO let's just leave them where they are when all are at their real home.
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Darzil said:
You seem to be making some mistake. Mids had a ML8 raid yesterday. Also Bluesky was running his dragon raid too..... ToA has been made extremely easy now, maybe you should consider running shorter raids if you are so concerned that you are being only attacked because you are all tide up in a MLraid...
Whats next? "We had to do an AC raid because I was getting a bit of lag during primetime"
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Kinag said:
Yea agree, but standing off from hurb, while concentrating on defence of other relics was the option i saw for you.
Darzil
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Cadelin said:You seem to be making some mistake. Mids had a ML8 raid yesterday. Also Bluesky was running his dragon raid too..... ToA has been made extremely easy now, maybe you should consider running shorter raids if you are so concerned that you are being only attacked because you are all tide up in a MLraid...
Whats next? "We had to do an AC raid because I was getting a bit of lag during primetime"
Sorry, I don't usually read the boards of the other realms, as it is almost like crossrealming in my head, so didn't know we were both on ML raids. Jobbegea had said that it was announced as an RvR event against Alb, whereas the target wasn't given.
I think we were attacked because Mastade's raids attack Alb. I don't think he did it because we had an ML raid. I think it MAY have been less successful had there been no ML raid.
I don't think AC raids are good. If you search all my posts you'll see that I prefer siege warfare, and that I only play during primetime. Why would I want all the RvR that I prefer to happen without me ?
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Cromcruaich said:
That would be a good option indeed, I'll agree with that.
I personally wouldn't mind losing the one power relic which had been AC'ed from you, but I really doubt it would stop there, people would be hungry for more revenge and you probably would have continued with the other relics.
