Windows 10 again

[Jupitus]

Fucking piece of fucking shite.

 

[MYstIC G]

Fucking piece of fucking shite.

Probably best to do a fresh install if it is messing you around Jup?

 

[Jupitus]

Probably best to do a fresh install if it is messing you around Jup?

Tempting, but with it refusing my key just for an upgrade I'm not sure it will work ... :s

 

[Embattle]

Key or activation?

 

[Raven]

Tempting, but with it refusing my key just for an upgrade I'm not sure it will work ... :s

Mine said that it had failed to authenticate but 24hours later had done.

If your install works leave it for a bit. I imagine the auth servers are taking a hammering.

 

[Jupitus]

Key or activation?

Product key - it's a windows v8 'INTL FOR OEM SOFTWARE' key which has validated previously for this installation absolutely fine... only thing I can think of is by pre-registering MS somehow have my product key 'tagged' and so it won't validate...

... actually no, as it doesn't validate the product key when trying to install from boot USB...

 

[Jupitus]

Mine said that it had failed to authenticate but 24hours later had done.

If your install works leave it for a bit. I imagine the auth servers are taking a hammering.

It's not letting me upgrade with the product key...

 

[Raven]

Hmm. Mine didn't ask for it at any point in the installation. I didn't do it from boot though, I just upgraded from the USB stick install files.

Try just running the installation from the USB from within win 8

 

[Jupitus]

Aha!

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/29/how-to-do-a-clean-install-of-windows-10/

 

[MYstIC G]

www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/07/30/windows-10-updating-reinstalling-and-activation-guide-essential-advice-to-avoid-problems/

 

[Embattle]

Yeah I used Belarc app once I did the upgrade to get my new windows 10 key then did a fresh install.

 

[Jupitus]

This is retarded.

Running the setup.exe from the media USB within win8 forces me to enter the key which it then rejects.

Booting from the USB installer and selecting upgrade allows me to skip the key entry, but then just shows a screen saying 'don't boot from the device, remove it, restart and run it from windows'. Seems I have no choice but to wait until the pre-registered upgrade is available to me. Grrr

 

[soze]

Right-clicking on the start button is probably the single most useful menu I've ever seen in Windows.

Is it different to 8.1. I know they added a load of functionality to that on 8.1.

 

[caLLous]

I didn't have to do any key stuff going up from 7 to 10. I used the Media Creation Tool rather than waiting for Windows Update, Win 10 now says it's activated and I didn't lift a finger.

That said, I haven't had to do a clean install yet. And once I put the stuff I put in the nerdy awesome thread in I'm going to have to. I have created an ISO and therefore a USB but every guide I've seen says to use the esd file at C:\$Windows.~BT\Sources\install.esd but this came up with an error so I used the one at C:\$Windows.~WS\Sources\installx64.esd and it made the ISO (en-gb_windows_10_pro_10240_x64_dvd.iso) without a problem. I haven't tried to install from it yet though...

 

[caLLous]

Is it different to 8.1. I know they added a load of functionality to that on 8.1.

Not sure how it happened but I had ~25GB free before the upgrade and ~28GB free afterwards.

Right-clicking on the start button is useful (I have no idea if that was in Win 8/8.1 or not but I came up from 7 so it's definitely new to me). Also you can now scroll whatever window is under the cursor, it doesn't have to be active you just have to hover over it. Very cool.

 

[soze]

Ooops

 

[leggy]

Right click on start menu has been a thing since 8.1

 

[Lakih]

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My reading is that on the setting I have it on, updates come directly from Microsoft. They can then also be accelerated by any machine on my LAN that already has them?

Ah, that's much more clear then the Swedish translation.

 

[caLLous]

Hum, it's activated but it seems I have a generic product key for win 10 at the moment so I'm hesitant to upgrade hardware and re-install.

 

[dysfunction]

How do you know it's generic rather than being for you specifically?

 

[Krazeh]

Hum, it's activated but it seems I have a generic product key for win 10 at the moment so I'm hesitant to upgrade hardware and re-install.

I think all upgraded copies of Windows 10 use a generic key. When you upgrade a unique hash is created from the details of various parts of your PC and uploaded to the cloud. It is this hash which is used to activate your PC, rather than a product key.

 

[caLLous]

I think all upgraded copies of Windows 10 use a generic key. When you upgrade a unique hash is created from the details of various parts of your PC and uploaded to the cloud. It is this hash which is used to activate your PC, rather than a product key.

Yeah the general consensus seems to be that I have to install 7 on the new system, update it to SP1 and then upgrade to 10. I'll then be able to do a clean install with no activation worries.

 

[caLLous]

How do you know it's generic rather than being for you specifically?

See here, each version (Home/Pro/x86/x64/etc) of the preview builds had a publicly available key. This is what you get when you upgrade from 7 or 8 to 10. They never actually give you a unique product key by the sound of it.

 

[dysfunction]

See here, each version (Home/Pro/x86/x64/etc) of the preview builds had a publicly available key. This is what you get when you upgrade from 7 or 8 to 10. They never actually give you a unique product key by the sound of it.

Oh ok. Mine isn't one of those so I guess I don't have a generic code.

 

[caLLous]

Oh ok. Mine isn't one of those so I guess I don't have a generic code.

So what makes you so special?

 

[MYstIC G]

Rabies?

 

[BloodOmen]

Not really liking Microsoft Edge so far like, its blatantly just Explorer with a mask on, thats some fucking shady scooby doo shit right there gone back to Chrome.

 

[ECA]

Upgraded 3 pcs in the house so far.

PC 1. Asked me to enter cd key, accepted+activated.
PC 2. Didn't ask for key, just activated.
PC 3. wont accept key as valid ( was activated on 8.1pro and was a legit key ), rang microsoft activation line, their server is down and cant process activation requests.

:/

 

[BloodOmen]

Upgraded 3 pcs in the house so far.

PC 1. Asked me to enter cd key, accepted+activated.
PC 2. Didn't ask for key, just activated.
PC 3. wont accept key as valid ( was activated on 8.1pro and was a legit key ), rang microsoft activation line, their server is down and cant process activation requests.

:/

rather odd, personally i think MS have just fucked up with the auto activation, i've seen some people who have done it flawless others who simply cannot.

 

[caLLous]

Upgraded 3 pcs in the house so far.

PC 1. Asked me to enter cd key, accepted+activated.
PC 2. Didn't ask for key, just activated.
PC 3. wont accept key as valid ( was activated on 8.1pro and was a legit key ), rang microsoft activation line, their server is down and cant process activation requests.

:/

Yeah I'm having no end of trouble the second time round. My problem is that it isn't letting me activate my 100% legit 7, it says my 100% legit product key isn't valid. I haven't tried calling yet though.