Well...there goes the life.

[mooSe_]

Anyone else kinda not playing and just waiting for the balance patch?

( zerg )

I'm still trying, but it's a real uphill battle. Whenever I beat a Terran it's always a really long back and forth game, whereas when I lose it's usually because I forgot some tiny thing and died in under 10 minutes.

It would be nice to see more zergs on the ladder though, at least ZvZ is balanced

 

[Bondoila]

My bonus pool seems to be bugged The pool keeps increasing but I don't get any points out of it when I win. Hopefully this will be fixed when they do the next patch. Otherwise my rating won't be able to keep up with the retarded inflation that's in this crappy rating system.

I got the same bug. It completly stoped giving me points, sucks :/

Thought at first it hade something with your ranking to do, like when you reached high enough it would stop giving you extra points.

 

[ST^]

Most stupid mistake I constantly make: build an assimilator and forget to put probes on it.

 

[Huntingtons]

Most stupid mistake I constantly make: build an assimilator and forget to put probes on it.

theres a way around that tho. I dont play protoss so i dont know if it will work. But have 3 workers mining. use waypoint. Click minerals then return resources. do that 3-4 times then click them onto the assimilator and they will go and mine gas after that. or just remember that just before it builds you click em onto it.


/edit

doesnt work. shame. Return cargo should be available at any time

 

[Ch3tan]

IF it's really a problem for you, then leave the original probe to mine it? When you build an assimilator the original probe will start mining it as soon as it's built if you give him no other orders. It will harm your economy slightly, but actually having some gas should be worth it @)

 

[Huntingtons]

i suggest just trying to remember doing it tho. Its a part of your standard build so remember it like remembering to build your first 3 pylons.

 

[ST^]

Yeah as I said, it's stupid, I don't need any trick to get around it, I just need to stop doing it

 

[Huntingtons]

what do you build before assimilator, and what do you build after? and how long after?

 

[mooSe_]

Yeah it's not worth learning little tricks for these things imo. Just mass games and eventually you will have perfect macro

 

[Ch3tan]

Wooohooo, up to the dizzy heights of 29th in my bronze league. 10 wins in a row. Kinda helped that they were 10, 5 minute games that I won with basic zealot rushes.

also have a positive win / loss ratio for the first time 83/81. I've played more games than anyone else in my ladder ://

 

[Levin]

Wooohooo, up to the dizzy heights of 29th in my bronze league. 10 wins in a row. Kinda helped that they were 10, 5 minute games that I won with basic zealot rushes.

also have a positive win / loss ratio for the first time 83/81. I've played more games than anyone else in my ladder ://

Graaats!! Keep it up!

 

[mooSe_]

New patch was supposed to be out today but the EU hasn't gone down yet. Hopefully they will do it during the night.

 

[Ch3tan]

Patch is up

 

[Ch3tan]

I wonder how much the zealot build time increase is going to kill zealot rushes

 

[ileks]

I'm more worried about zerg 6 pool rushes or anything like that tbh. I still get caught out by it and it will be even better this patch.

 

[ST^]

Yeah, they fix reaper rushes and zealot rushes, and keep the worst tactic in the whole game. The 6 pool. You either lose without a chance, or hold it off and destroy them because they have no economy. What's the point? Who has fun in that game?

 

[Ch3tan]

6 pools are piss easy to defend as a protoss, wall off your ramp and create a one unit choke point, stick a zealot in there, one cannon if you have a forge to back him up. Have a second zealot on standby. Same basic principle with terran, but don't leave a gap, just place your marine behind a barracks + 2 supply wall.

You could also rush them first.

 

[Ch3tan]

Well p v t seems better, played two games and could not dominate with the early zealots. the slight delay gives the marines more of a chance. Still caused damage to his economy, but it would take a pretty silly player to fall to the first 2 or 3 zealots now IMO.

The increased warp gate recharge time is quite annoying though

 

[old.Tohtori]

Urgh...two week pause from Scraft...will be a bit of a horse

 

[Ch3tan]

So we actually starting our 2 player career then?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Hah, yeah, this week is a bit of a stretch(friend flying back from the UK), but should hop on that trainwreck as soon as we both get online with some time.

 

[ST^]

6 pools are piss easy to defend as a protoss, wall off your ramp and create a one unit choke point, stick a zealot in there, one cannon if you have a forge to back him up. Have a second zealot on standby. Same basic principle with terran, but don't leave a gap, just place your marine behind a barracks + 2 supply wall.

You could also rush them first.

My point was that, win or lose, such a heavy all-in means the game is not fun. I dunno who can have fun in a game where one player does a 6 pool and the other walls off and builds economy. I wouldn't enjoy losing to it, I wouldn't enjoy winning to it because he fucked himself too badly to carry on after the rush fails.

 

[Ch3tan]

Not always, I've had good games against zerg that do and don't 6 pool.

The threat of the 6 pool is sometimes more powerful than the action itself.

Also I nearly always wall off as standard, no matter who I am playing. It doesn't mean I'm building an economy, it just gives a first line of defence.

 

[old.Tohtori]

My point was that, win or lose, such a heavy all-in means the game is not fun. I dunno who can have fun in a game where one player does a 6 pool and the other walls off and builds economy. I wouldn't enjoy losing to it, I wouldn't enjoy winning to it because he fucked himself too badly to carry on after the rush fails.

It's mostly a ladder climb tactic really.

Quick win, get points, move on.

In higher ranked games, if what i hear is correct, this kind of quick-win activity is much rarer.

Ofcourse economy harass of any kind is a valid tactic, as are some other, MUCH more funny tactics

 

[Ch3tan]

And what is wrong with a quick win? If your opponent is not able to defend then he's not good enough, end off. More than one way to skin a cat, but that does not mean you should ignore the easiest way

 

[ECA]

The increased warp gate recharge time is quite annoying though

If you chronoboost a warpgate it cuts the warp in cooldown to compensate for not boosting production time.

 

[Ch3tan]

Yeah, but I was boosting it before anyway

 

[old.Tohtori]

And what is wrong with a quick win? If your opponent is not able to defend then he's not good enough, end off. More than one way to skin a cat, but that does not mean you should ignore the easiest way

Oh nothing at all wrong with a quick win

Just was answering the "why do people 6 pool" thing.

Well, more saying "It'll get better" then answering

 

[Ch3tan]

I just had a two minute p v p game. The guy tried a probe rush, then was shit at microing.

Was hilarious, will upload later if I can be arsed

 

[Ch3tan]

Do I have to be first on the ladder to get promoted? Getting a bit bored now, only get a challenge now and again, if I lose it's usually down to me making a silly error or trying something new.