Sums up AoC

[pez]

/who doesn't break my immersion and I wants it!

 

[Maasu]

I have to say after Eve's release Age of Conan aint too bad.

At least it actually has PvE content (other than mining, which is pretty much all eve had when it was released - NPC'ing was no existant and the missions were a joke).

Given that Eve was probably the best MMO i've ever played (one a bit more content came), i'd say theres still a chance for AoC.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeh but you are forgetting the most important word in that anagram...the g for game. If you want to roleplay with "full immersion" then do it on a table-top as you aren't going to get anywher near the same experience from a video game.

Yes, it is a game, but at the same time, it's gone so much into that G, that the RP has gone right out.

Luckily AoC seems to rely more on the RP, even if it's still far from an RPG.

Just wish there would be a community that realised it's not "just a G".

You an't get to a tabletop ofcourse, it would require some more, but one can make an MMO work with full-on immersion. Please don't make me list how...i will, but please don't as it's too obvious for anyone who thinks about solutions to that.

Instances, yes, they break te immersion too, but i have to disagree about the "guild orientation". I for one, have quested once with a guildie, and dozens of times with a pick up group.

"Hey you, going to kill the evil bat thingy?" Why yes i am. "Mind if i join you?" group formed.

Much better then "xxx tells you wanna grp?" or worse yet, someone does a /who on me, noticed i'm a healer and spaminvites to group

I guess AoC is in the middle ground of not fully RP, not fully G, and i think it's gonna work. If they don't buckle to WoW wannas.

 

[Faeldawn]

I have to say after Eve's release Age of Conan aint too bad.

At least it actually has PvE content (other than mining, which is pretty much all eve had when it was released - NPC'ing was no existant and the missions were a joke).

Given that Eve was probably the best MMO i've ever played (one a bit more content came), i'd say theres still a chance for AoC.

EvE is one of the few sandbox games around that works, sure it has a few missions available, but the vast majority of the game content is entirely player-driven. As such at release it was always going to be a while before the content took hold because it would be a while before the players started exploring and claiming 0 sec space, gaining BPs, skills etc. There never was much pve content, there still isn't and there never really will be.

EvE challenges you to make your own mark in the verse, it won't spoon-feed you or ween you much of the way. Comparing EvE to AoC in this way really doesn't work, apples and oranges again im afraid.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Now with Pann back EVE is the shit carebear game it always was.

She will prolly ban everyone killing too many sheeps.

 

[taB]

Now with Pann back EVE is the shit carebear game it always was.

She will prolly ban everyone killing too many sheeps.

Don't want to derail this too much but you should see what's been going on during the patch today Caldari invaded Gallente, Minmatar invaded Amarr. All setting up for factional warfare. Been done very well and generated some serious hype.

Edit: as can be seen by the number of responses to the comments I've made in the Eve section ^^

 

[Hawkwind]

I'm sitting in a bar in Mauritius catching up on email and shit, lucky fooking me. TBH I agree with the sentiment, I to can't believe some of these bugs have slipped past BETA. But, and its a big 'but' I bloody well enjoy the game. The combat is fun and I as long as I have fun with it then I'll keep playing. Leveling compared to DAOC is a breeze, anyone who spent weeks in Lyonese on trees etc will appreciate this Thre are plenty of quests and areas to go. I've grouped lots and enjoyed playing with different people.

As with any game if you enjoy keep playing, if not fuck off and play something else. No disrepect, just can't see the point of playing and paying for something you obviously are not enjoying.

Another long island iced tea incomming so time for me /drunk.

 

[Gahn]

Absolutely, and yet here we are on page 8 still going strong

Opening up a bet on how long will this thread be carried on xD

 

[Imgormiel]

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[PewPewAS50.50]

So whats the whine today?

 

[Valgyr]

So whats the whine today?

u suck

 

[Aada]

Anybody else think the /general chat after Tortage is like Barrens on WoW? fucking pure comedy tbh at least on a pvp server lol

 

[Faeldawn]

Opening up a bet on how long will this thread be carried on xD

Maybe if we power-bump it, it'll get locked.....or I'll get banned....whichever comes first

 

[Coldbeard]

Really sad to see that you can't have a normal discussion about the game without it instantaniously being labeled whine.

 

[PewPewAS50.50]

u suck

Says the lvl 14 barbarian


Level harder mejt, cogs is lvl 80 now :/

 

[old.Tohtori]

Really sad to see that you can't have a normal discussion about the game without it instantaniously being labeled whine.

There are no complaints in MMO, there's only whines, stop whining about it!

 

[Valgyr]

Says the lvl 14 barbarian


Level harder mejt, cogs is lvl 80 now :/

muahahah! not only a lvl 15 barb but a lvl 19 assasin and a lvl 12 ranger! sure getting to know turtage by now

 

[Ctuchik]

Because bear shaman isn't a healer class as much as it's a hybrid.

Just like dark templar.

I think,a s i proved on other thread, the "problem" with bear shaman is that peolpe play it like a healer.

it IS a healer. if specced properly it can heal quite well in 6 man instances. now i'm not THAT high lvl on my shaman so i cant say how it is at 80. but for example sanctum of the burning souls is very much doable with a bear shaman as only healer.

 

[old.Tohtori]

muahahah! not only a lvl 15 barb but a lvl 19 assasin and a lvl 12 ranger! sure getting to know turtage by now

Not the only one there

Not even gonna go into what i got...

it IS a healer. if specced properly it can heal quite well in 6 man instances. now i'm not THAT high lvl on my shaman so i cant say how it is at 80. but for example sanctum of the burning souls is very much doable with a bear shaman as only healer.

Yes, i know it's a healer, but it's not a pure healer by definition. It's a battlehealer in my books. It's a solo machine for sure, that much is proven by running tortage to 12 with a bikini on

 

[dee777]

...but for example sanctum of the burning souls is very much doable with a bear shaman as only healer.

I can vouch for that. Healed a melee PUG lvls 37-40 thru it when I was 35 myself and got apped by the lvl 40 guy. Was a breeze and after 12 times with no luck finally the 2h bluntie dropped and I even won it.

 

[Downanael]

So to anyone who's whining about how there is no content and you have to grind,guess what?

When Daoc first came out it had zero content outside few quests,barely 1/4 of what AOC has right now,Only way you could get exp at all was to grind grind and grind some more. Nobody ever QQ:ed about no content in the end level because it took easily month to get 50 even with hardcore grinding but it won't change the fact there was not much expect rvr withouth rewards.

No loot on dungeons? No dungeons past lvl 30 had any item drops but just cash.

And you know what ? realmpoints were useless at start,RA's became in after a half a year and before that they were just a pretty number.

Every MMO is not good at start,but Daoc evolved to one of the best games out there and i certainly hope same will happen to this one.

 

[PewPewAS50.50]

Can we let this one die out now ?

 

[Zedenz]

So to anyone who's whining about how there is no content and you have to grind,guess what?

When Daoc first came out it had zero content outside few quests,barely 1/4 of what AOC has right now,Only way you could get exp at all was to grind grind and grind some more. Nobody ever QQ:ed about no content in the end level because it took easily month to get 50 even with hardcore grinding but it won't change the fact there was not much expect rvr withouth rewards.

No loot on dungeons? No dungeons past lvl 30 had any item drops but just cash.

And you know what ? realmpoints were useless at start,RA's became in after a half a year and before that they were just a pretty number.

Every MMO is not good at start,but Daoc evolved to one of the best games out there and i certainly hope same will happen to this one.

Well not to resurect the same shitty argument...but daoc was during a totally different era. MMO's were still fairly young, but this is 2008 and there have been scores of MMO's to learn from.

Saying that though, AoC seems to be adding new stuff now so for those who are still giving it their time, they have much to look forward to....unless they fuck it up

 

[Mirt]

"I can vouch for that. Healed a melee PUG lvls 37-40 thru it when I was 35 myself and got apped by the lvl 40 guy. Was a breeze and after 12 times with no luck finally the 2h bluntie dropped and I even won it. "

I probably should point out that sanctum is extremly easy, in the later dungeons you'll need several healers and for people to not pull aggro.

 

[Ctuchik]

So to anyone who's whining about how there is no content and you have to grind,guess what?

When Daoc first came out it had zero content outside few quests,barely 1/4 of what AOC has right now,Only way you could get exp at all was to grind grind and grind some more. Nobody ever QQ:ed about no content in the end level because it took easily month to get 50 even with hardcore grinding but it won't change the fact there was not much expect rvr withouth rewards.

No loot on dungeons? No dungeons past lvl 30 had any item drops but just cash.

And you know what ? realmpoints were useless at start,RA's became in after a half a year and before that they were just a pretty number.

Every MMO is not good at start,but Daoc evolved to one of the best games out there and i certainly hope same will happen to this one.

you cant compare a game thats DESIGNED to be a grind fest to one thats supposedly meant to be a quest leveling game. i mean the xp rewards from the quests in DaoC before the xp boost were all but pathetic.

DAoC was originally designed around spawn camping and dungeon crawling. not questing.

and again, noone really had any ACTUAL experience with mmo's back when DAoC came out. there were basically only EQ and AO and they were pretty much the same, all grind.

then MMO's got released that had shitloads of quests and the xp rewards actually showed a difference on the xp bar. then we got spoiled and most wanted all our mmo's to be like that. because grinding is for easily entertained people.

 

[Mirt]

then MMO's got released that had shitloads of quests and the xp rewards actually showed a difference on the xp bar. then we got spoiled and most wanted all our mmo's to be like that. because grinding is for easily entertained people.

Some quests are good, but a lot are mini-grinds in "disguise". I also tend to think it takes 2-3x too long to get to max level in MMOs, I'm probably in a minority here though.

 

[eksdee]

anyone who actually believes that kill 8000 boars as a 'quest' in world of warcraft isn't grinding is a fucking moron tbh.

 

[Dr_Evil]

I've decided that level 27 is as far I can go in Age of Conan. I'm so tired of quests and pve now that I want to puke whenever I consider logging back in. It's got great graphics, lovely quests, pve is fun (considering it's pve), but there is a limit on how much I can do the same stuff over and over again and when the limit is reached I just can't take it anymore. I refuse to continue doing something I'm not enjoying anymore, and AoC is not giving me a choice to do something else. I'm not doing another quest and I'm not killing another mob. Call me a quitter. :beurk:

So that's it, I've tried AoC and for me it was just another single player game that goes right into the shelf to collect dust. Yes, I said single player game because the majority of the players I met in there were not interested in doing anything else than single player quests. Single player quests give the best rewards. The best equipment comes from quests, and is not tradable, so I don't even have a choice to buy it if I'm sick of doing single player quests. :lol:

In so many ways DAOC are just too much superior to AOC in what matters most to me.

I've tried to flag myself for all the various pvp options (minigames etc), with no luck getting into one single game in several days. Maybe I should've gone to the PvP server, you say? I've tried Camlann (European DAOC PvP server), and I have no reason to believe AoC PvP is any different. A chaotic mass slaughter of low levels, everyone attacking everything that moves with no hesitation. If I weren't so sick of Tortage and having to do everything in there over again, maybe I would atleast try it once (character transfer).

Maybe (you never know) when pvp has established on Ymir and most people are lvl80, I might come back to try out the endgame if there is a kind soul who can PL me to 80 (as leveling myself all those levels are just too much of a grind for me). That is not to be taken as begging or anything, I'm not asking. :whip:

 

[dee777]

Sad you dont like the game mate, hope you have fun with whereever you go, but...

The best equipment comes from quests, and is not tradable, so I don't even have a choice to buy it if I'm sick of doing single player quests. :lol:

...thats just not true. The best gear so far comes from instances and likely the PvP gear will be on the same level (if they steal ideas from Blizzard, they sure gonna steal the whole package).

And the fact that the most decent gear aint tradeable is a blessing. If you tried Tabula Rasa you would agree. TR didnt use the no-trade flag on gear and guess what. I had a full set of epic armor including two different epic weapons for endgame (level 50) by the time I hit my early 30'ies. And I didnt even play the auction house to half my abilities. Teh sukk!

BTW, I am very astonished that you consider the leveling in AoC too hard. I doubt I played an easier/faster to level game ever before, but YMMV. The first guy that hit level 80 did so during early access phase before the game even hit release (granted we dont know if he used 1337 h4xxploitz).

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

In so many ways DAOC are just too much superior to AOC in what matters most to me.

Yeah? What's that?

PL'ing to 50?