Politics So...Europe then?

[Job]

I can only dream.

 

[Scouse]

It's more like this:
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This, precicely.

 

[Bodhi]

This, precicely.

I'm pretty sure precisely has an "s" in it.

 

[Gwadien]

I'm pretty sure precisely has an "s" in it.

Scouse has a short thong, leave him alone.

 

[Scouse]

I'm pretty sure precisely has an "s" in it.

Been pub

 

[DaGaffer]

Surprisingly enough, outside of the gunard, Nigel is getting begrudgingly good press.

He gave his speech at the summit and everyone was like here we go, but deep down they know after laughing at him for years, he had fucked them all over and pulled off something they could only dream of.

How is that remotely surprising given most of the press were pro avoiding regulation of offshore banking at all costs Brexit?

 

[old.Osy]

 

[Gwadien]

Talking of House of Cards

Ken Clarke recorded criticising Tory hopefuls - BBC News

 

[BloodOmen]

Truth

 

[caLLous]

Why would he think he could speak freely like that in a news studio of all places. He seems to think he's just having a natter with a pal but it's shady of Sky News (surprise) to release it.

 

[Scouse]

Ken Clarke recorded criticising Tory hopefuls - BBC News

"mindless, tiny band of lunatics who think we can have a glorious economic future outside the single market"



@Raven / @Bodhi / @ECA / @Job / anyone care to comment?

 

[Moriath]

One mans view.

 

[Scouse]

One mans view.

An ex-chancellor's view tho. So perhaps a view that counts more than any random joe's.

 

[Moriath]

Counts more than 17 million ?

 

[caLLous]

Pointless circular argument incoming.

 

[caLLous]

Anyway, on a brighter note, look at the pound positively roaring back to pre-referendum levels against the dollar. Look at it go!

 

[Gwadien]

Counts more than 17 million ?

I think one informed (and a general chat too as you can see, not there to make political points AND from a Tory who should in theory be loving the escape from EU regulations on employers etc) decision is better than 17 million uninformed decisions.

Unless you're going to tell me that those 17 million people suddenly became informed purely due to the referendum.

 

[caLLous]

They were desperately trying to *not* be informed with all the anti-expert rubbish.

 

[Gwadien]

They were desperately trying to *not* be informed with all the anti-expert rubbish.

Yep.

The only view that I respect from Brexit is to make decisions for ourselves, but even then, that's only respect, I don't agree with it.

 

[Gwadien]

Tory leadership: Theresa May tops first vote but Liam Fox out - BBC News

ggwp.

I hope you're all going out to have your ID photos taken.

 

[Embattle]

Already got mine, it is already in the governments hands due to driving license.

 

[Bodhi]

"mindless, tiny band of lunatics who think we can have a glorious economic future outside the single market"



@Raven / @Bodhi / @ECA / @Job / anyone care to comment?

Given I've always been a fan of the Norway option, which involves remaining in the Single Market, but having more say over things like agriculture, fishing policy and being able to set up trade deals with who the fuck we like, my comment would be....

Yes. And?

 

[Bodhi]

An ex-chancellor's view tho. So perhaps a view that counts more than any random joe's.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12179973/EU-referendum-Former-Tory-chancellor-Lord-Lamont-backs-Brexit.html

Another former Chancellor disagrees. Experts disagreeing eh? It's almost as if not every expert is correct....

 

[Moriath]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12179973/EU-referendum-Former-Tory-chancellor-Lord-Lamont-backs-Brexit.html

Another former Chancellor disagrees. Experts disagreeing eh? It's almost as if not every expert is correct....

Or there was no right answer. Just a position to take on this issue

 

[Scouse]

Given I've always been a fan of the Norway option, which involves remaining in the Single Market

Cool. So you're totes fine with freedom of movement & the ECHR then.

That's not so bad. That's just like being a member of the EU but with higher costs and less say than we used to have.

 

[Job]

An ex-chancellor's view tho. So perhaps a view that counts more than any random joe's.

We are not leaving the single market, that wouldn't be in anyone's interest, it will carry on as before, because we are far too big for them to impose tariffs, without tarrifs it is exactly the same, in fact what the fuck has it to do with the EU, I think over the next few years they are going to be reminded of the limits of their powers.

 

[Moriath]

Cool. So you're totes fine with freedom of movement & the ECHR then.

That's not so bad. That's just like being a member of the EU but with higher costs and less say than we used to have.

Less say in the eu more say with other countries and our own laws.

 

[BloodOmen]

I WONDER WHERE WE COULD FIND SUCH A THING!

 

[Job]

I shop at Tescos, don't use their reward card though.

Free trade, normal relations...sidestep the EU, everyone realises you don't need a middleman.

 

[Gwadien]

I shop at Tescos, don't use their reward card though.

Free trade, normal relations...sidestep the EU, everyone realises you don't need a middleman.

See previous post about everyone becoming a trade expert because of the referendum.

You have no idea how it actually works, nor do I.