Shadowblade petition.

[Tigerius]

Originally posted by SilverHood
Tigerius, I don't usually stoop myself so low, as to call people names, or to swear, but read the fucking thread before posting.

so an extra 50 hp (at most), is an edge over a 9 second stun? COUNT THEM

ONE
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NINE

givf DF anyday

I doubt it's at most 50hp, but it's hard to compare (since Norsemen get higher base Con then Infs can), main point is still that all the differences between the chars don't sum up in Dragonfang, you're trying to distort the issue by making it like that. Indeed givf DF, both of them.

Tell when where a kobold sb is at the edge in HP ?

And it's a balance issue that you CHOSE to roll a race with inferior stats?

What do you mean with comparing merc & zerk?

I mean comparing LA styledmg to DW styledmg simply, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[SilverHood]

sigh, here we go again... cba to copy and paste,

but there is more to a SB than just LA damage

to get high LA damage, they sacrifice damage done by envenom, as well as loose the ability to PA.

it all evens out in versatility, the Sb's only strength

the SB isn't overpowered... it's not ubar... it's Balanced... except midgard has a total of 1 balanced class, namely the SB. Hence the belief that SB's are overpowered.

Give us a decent argument and we'll rip it apart... none of that pantsy "I mean comparing LA styledmg to DW styledmg simply, nothing more, nothing less." with no proof

 

[Berz Blackburn]

Originally posted by Tigerius
I doubt it's at most 50hp, but it's hard to compare (since Norsemen get higher base Con then Infs can), main point is still that all the differences between the chars don't sum up in Dragonfang, you're trying to distort the issue by making it like that. Indeed givf DF, both of them.

Norseman got 80 con and Britons 70 ie ~50hp so where have u seen that they got way higher than an infil can?

And it's a balance issue that you CHOSE to roll a race with inferior stats?

May be get some clues ? choosing a kobold with lower con for higher dex & qui ?

I mean comparing LA styledmg to DW styledmg simply, nothing more, nothing less.

Ye right imagine a merc with LA style lol

 

[SilverHood]

And it's a balance issue that you CHOSE to roll a race with inferior stats?

Albs can choose briton infil... thats 70 base con if they choose to do so

Mid can choose norse... thats 80 base con if they choose to do so

10 con = ~50 hp

your argument was?

 

[Berz Blackburn]

And tbh gifv thrust spec for my SB i will do more with it considering i have got 200dex unbuffed as thrust = str/dex.

Slash = 100% str for your information and Saracen starts with 80dex!

 

[Tigerius]

When I have to resort to informing you about base racial stats, which stat weapondmg is based on and so forth... I think it's better to just brand you clueless and stop discussing.

Try not to take it too offensive but Berz with his "get a clue" crap and then not even knowing racial base stats? It's getting just a tad rich for me.

 

[SilverHood]

what has that got anything to do with the topic of this thread?

Read the first post

Then read every single other post defending sb's.

Then read it again for good measure.

Read, comprehend, understand.

Then come back with some decent arguments


:kissit:

 

[Tigerius]

Originally posted by Berz Blackburn
Ye right imagine a merc with LA style lol

Oh and thank you for proving my point. LA is overpowered, there may be problems with the LA classes elsewhere that you may or may not consider to be balancing this out, but LA is overpowered.

 

[Tigerius]

Originally posted by SilverHood
what has that got anything to do with the topic of this thread?

Read the first post

Then read every single other post defending sb's.

Then read it again for good measure.

Read, comprehend, understand.

Then come back with some decent arguments

Reading through that much bullshit and biased opinions more then once a day truly isn't good for my mental health.

The point is that when you're arguing with people who got the base facts wrong, and have to use time proving these base facts, succesfully getting to and proving advanced facts is near impossible. Certainly beyond my current patience.

 

[SilverHood]

LA is overpwered in the extremes. On zerkers.
And even then, not by that much.
They still have to spec a base weapon, even if they never use those styles.
More spec points used should = more damage

 

[SilverHood]

Originally posted by Tigerius
Reading through that much bullshit and biased opinions more then once a day truly isn't good for my mental health.

Biased? like the owned scouts and other clueless albs calling for SB's nerfs?

Like every single person who ever got killed by a sb asking for sb nerf?

Like the entire non midgard popluation asking for SB's nerf?

Biased you say, eh?

 

[Tigerius]

Originally posted by SilverHood

More spec points used should = more damage

Yeah Mercs & Armsmen chant that like a mantra, never seems to hold very true.

And yes of course everyone is biased, since 9/10ths of the post in this thread seem to be made by people playing Zerkers/SBs that kind of biased really is nothing I need to read and comprehend multiple times. I've read it once, it was nothing new or groundbreaking, just the same old "I don't think I'm overpowered", DUH.

 

[Berz Blackburn]

Originally posted by Tigerius
When I have to resort to informing you about base racial stats, which stat weapondmg is based on and so forth... I think it's better to just brand you clueless and stop discussing.

Try not to take it too offensive but Berz with his "get a clue" crap and then not even knowing racial base stats? It's getting just a tad rich for me.

Hahaha i dont know racial base stats? point me where i got wrong please do

for your information i am playing since december 2001 and have played most of the classes.

Its funny tho that the only ppl whinning about SB's are from Alb but from EXCAL hahah

Oh and thank you for proving my point. LA is overpowered, there may be problems with the LA classes elsewhere that you may or may not consider to be balancing this out, but LA is overpowered.

Lol at that too you do it on purpose or what? I am a mercenary and they do own allready as its. Give the zerkers chain & the ability to parry while in frenzy mode then LA would be overpowered

 

[Berz Blackburn]

Originally posted by Tigerius

And yes of course everyone is biased, since 9/10ths of the post in this thread seem to be made by people playing Zerkers/SBs that kind of biased really is nothing I need to read and comprehend multiple times. I've read it once, it was nothing new or groundbreaking, just the same old "I don't think I'm overpowered", DUH.

I have played most of the classes from every realm i do know who has to be nerfed and who has not.

I aint the kind of player that will try to get my char a boost so i can enjoy it more, i'm an honest person and SBs are not overpowered. Bonedancers are thats a fact even tho i dont know how they will nerf that if you remove the insta lifestat BD = SM.

I aint playing Midgard for a while and wont prolly play again so ....i am playing Albion yep! Until i got the chance to play another mmorpg

 

[TeniForTehWin]

go eat potatoes, fish, and, of course your DAoC CD then delete DAoC

and will cause an unbalance among all assassin classes across the 3 realms....

ok wich sb can honestly say they dont pwn ns and infs to hell? (and nearly any other class)
making that hard will actually BALANCE it..

go eat potatoes, fish, and, of course your DAoC CD then delete DAoC.

Amount of Spec points and dual wielding
With the current amount of points available for shadowblades, specializing to 50 in any 1 line puts the shadowblade at a disadvantage in the other necessary skills. To effectively dual wield the shadowblade is required to place valuable spec points into the left axe line along with the sword or axe line since offhand damage variance is based on the left axe spec level. Dual wielding with no spec points places the shadowblade at a disadvantage against other assassin classes that are able to dual wield. Only by using spec points is the shadowblade able to effectively dual wield.


In 1.62 full or single line respec is gived.
Go neeerf em Mythic !!!

 

[SilverHood]

you don't see sb's soloing armsmen or paladins, or mercs on a daily basis

why do I see infils doing so? (thanes, warriors, zerkers, everything under the sun cept BD's)

what assassin imbalance?

seen plenty of sb's get owned by infils, and the other way around... all about the DF, and who gets the PA in

 

[Tigerius]

Originally posted by Berz Blackburn
Its funny tho that the only ppl whinning about SB's are from Alb but from EXCAL hahah

I don't consider myself whining about SBs, I just have an opinion about LA, but anyway. Why there are ppl from Alb/Exc here? Maybe because Prydwen SBs suck so much that noone has any bad experiences with em like Excal ppl do? Maybe the 40% dmg difference completely changes everyones outlook on things? Maybe we all happen to be alting here at the moment and hence read these boards, I wouldn't read Mid/Exc boards for instance.
Personally I'm here because it's getting tiresome seeing good players be called "clueless noobs" by roleplayers not close to the same RR even if you added up all their PvE pwners.

I am a mercenary and they do own allready as its. Give the zerkers chain & the ability to parry while in frenzy mode then LA would be overpowered

No then zerkers would be overpowered, LA would be exactly the same.. wait a minute then LA would be overpowered too
Try to understand the difference anyway.

 

[Tigerius]

Originally posted by SilverHood
you don't see sb's soloing armsmen or paladins, or mercs on a daily basis

why do I see infils doing so? (thanes, warriors, zerkers, everything under the sun cept BD's)

what assassin imbalance?

seen plenty of sb's get owned by infils, and the other way around... all about the DF, and who gets the PA in

Buffed assassin > unbuffed tank, anytime. I see that very often.

Regarding assassin balance, I think it's less interesting then realm balance and that balance needs a LA reduction. If you want to settle the score with Dragonfang, feel free to, wrong thread though.

 

[SilverHood]

roleplayers? lmao

I think I have roleplayed a total of 3 times in the last year

and low RR people? I was RR5 before I quit, Berzerk there is RR6 with his skald

Why there are ppl from Alb/Exc here? Maybe because Prydwen SBs suck so much that noone has any bad experiences with em like Excal ppl do? Maybe the 40% dmg difference completely changes everyones outlook on things?

prydwen sb's suck? Wouldn't think so, since the top prydwen sb has more rps than the top excal sb...

Think its just because midgard on excal has STR relics... and the fact that people on excal don't give proper aguments, at all, ever. Except Arnor maybe

Buffed assassin > unbuffed tank, anytime. I see that
very often.

Buffed Assassin> buffed tank too.

 

[old.mattshanes]

An inf can kill a lot easier than a sb or ns..... i must of faced a sb 1vs1 50 times or so and ns about 20..... i haven't hardly lost vs them and no i am not a buffbot user.

An inf can kill me with 50% left or so if dragonfangs me and i do not purge....

The game mechanics are suppose to be the sbs do more damage while an inf gets a stun that's like an anytime for them.I do not see why people are moaning to be honest i remember mids saying niar wiped the floor with most of them.

But now they nerf a sbs main spec while an inf has a 9s stun they can easily pull off.... they didn't need to nerf a sbs la damage by 40% that is definetly wrong.Be moaning of norse being sbs next...

LA damage for a sb needed a nerf yes but not 40%,around 10-20% but so does dragonfang need a nerf too in this case.

 

[SilverHood]

but matt, it's different now, because infils are from Albion

can't have mythic nerfing albion....

 

[Berz Blackburn]

Originally posted by Tigerius


I don't consider myself whining about SBs, I just have an opinion about LA, but anyway. Why there are ppl from Alb/Exc here? Maybe because Prydwen SBs suck so much that noone has any bad experiences with em like Excal ppl do? Maybe the 40% dmg difference completely changes everyones outlook on things? Maybe we all happen to be alting here at the moment and hence read these boards, I wouldn't read Mid/Exc boards for instance.
Personally I'm here because it's getting tiresome seeing good players be called "clueless noobs" by roleplayers not close to the same RR even if you added up all their PvE pwners.
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How would you define urself a good player? what do you know about rolepayers? Are u talking about me about RR's? If so
1) i dont belong to the zerg like excal/alb use to do
2) i earned my rp's mostly on my own (thats for every chars)
3) my skad has been rr6+ since august 2002 i just aint playing him since.
4) i aint farming rps because it doesnt matter to me anymore i play to have fun not for numbers.

Until you would have given real facts, with exact affirmation about stats, skills on the classes then i might consider not a clueless noob, but for now you are.

 

[Berz Blackburn]

Thanks Matt at least one honest Alb

 

[Tigerius]

Originally posted by SilverHood
roleplayers? lmao

I think I have roleplayed a total of 3 times in the last year

and low RR people? I was RR5 before I quit, Berzerk there is RR6 with his skald

My statement remains.

prydwen sb's suck? Wouldn't think so, since the top prydwen sb has more rps than the top excal sb...

Think its just because midgard on excal has STR relics... and the fact that people on excal don't give proper aguments, at all, ever. Except Arnor maybe

I can't say this thread is doing the Prydwen arguments any favour, read the first page and it basically consists of 1 person disagreeing with you and various people (including yourself) proceeding to insult him. TBH you can stuff your proper arguments.

How would you define urself a good player? what do you know about rolepayers? Are u talking about me about RR's? If so
1) i dont belong to the zerg like excal/alb use to do
2) i earned my rp's mostly on my own (thats for every chars)
3) my skad has been rr6+ since august 2002 i just aint playing him since.
4) i aint farming rps because it doesnt matter to me anymore i play to have fun not for numbers.

Of course.

Until you would have given real facts, with exact affirmation about stats, skills on the classes then i might consider not a clueless noob, but for now you are.

Sorry exactly what are we talking about here? You totally lost me

 

[Tigerius]

Originally posted by Berz Blackburn
Thanks Matt at least one honest Alb

Yes please nerf my dishonest opinion. Fascism4tehwin.

 

[SilverHood]

this statement:

Sorry exactly what are we talking about here? You totally lost me

summs this up:

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How would you define urself a good player? what do you know about rolepayers? Are u talking about me about RR's? If so
1) i dont belong to the zerg like excal/alb use to do
2) i earned my rp's mostly on my own (thats for every chars)
3) my skad has been rr6+ since august 2002 i just aint playing him since.
4) i aint farming rps because it doesnt matter to me anymore i play to have fun not for numbers.

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Of course.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Prydwen sbs suck? lol give me a break.... we have many good sbs and i tell you now it was excal server i heard a shield specced merc high rr? and another 29 slash :E speccing an offensive class defensive no wonder you guys moan.

 

[Berz Blackburn]

Originally posted by Tigerius


Of course.

Sorry exactly what are we talking about here? You totally lost me

Owned

 

[Berz Blackburn]

Everyone with me :

:bazbeer: :bazbeer: :bazbeer:

OLE!

 

[old.mattshanes]

The drinks are on berzerk

Come back with your skald to pryd now and again please!