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[Eleasias]

My point is proven by the numbers posted. Let me explain how people can derive into some logical conclusions, you might come to learn something at the end.

Assuming you got 2 characters, same class, same race, same everything but name and the amount of solo kills. Both stand at 30 million rps, toon A has 30 solo kills, toon B has 3,000 solo kills.

With the above numbers, we can conclude the following. They both know how to play their toons but player A has no solo experience while player B has. Following that, we can safely say that player A will be quite useless without his groupmates as he's got almost no idea on what to do when faced with a situation he's not familiar with; on the contrary, player B does have the knowledge required, hence he'll be a much better player under those circumstances.

You have to learn how to understand relativity and related concepts before addressing some issues. You're still amusing but you also tire me as you're not able to grasp simple things. I'm going to reply when/if you finally make some sense of what's been said here.

You dont need to have solo kills in your /title to know what you're supposed to do in solo and what your class is capable of, I havent soloed in ages but I'm still very much aware what soloing involves and what each class is supposed to do. Soloing in DAoC isn't the mythical place separated from the rest of DAoC as you make it out to be.

A good player (even one with lots of realm points ) will be good at solo even if he hasnt soloed before, end of discussion.

 

[Gear]

A good player (even one with lots of realm points ) will be good at solo even if he hasnt soloed before, end of discussion.

You do realise that this is like saying that any zerger with lots of rps will be a good fg player even if they haven't played in that type of setting before.

 

[Cloudz]

You dont need to have solo kills in your /title to know what you're supposed to do in solo and what your class is capable of, I havent soloed in ages but I'm still very much aware what soloing involves and what each class is supposed to do. Soloing in DAoC isn't the mythical place separated from the rest of DAoC as you make it out to be.

A good player (even one with lots of realm points ) will be good at solo even if he hasnt soloed before, end of discussion.

my thoughts exactly...

 

[Minstrel]

My point is proven by the numbers posted. Let me explain how people can derive into some logical conclusions, you might come to learn something at the end.

Assuming you got 2 characters, same class, same race, same everything but name and the amount of solo kills. Both stand at 30 million rps, toon A has 30 solo kills, toon B has 3,000 solo kills.

With the above numbers, we can conclude the following. They both know how to play their toons but player A has no solo experience while player B has. Following that, we can safely say that player A will be quite useless without his groupmates as he's got almost no idea on what to do when faced with a situation he's not familiar with; on the contrary, player B does have the knowledge required, hence he'll be a much better player under those circumstances.

You have to learn how to understand relativity and related concepts before addressing some issues. You're still amusing but you also tire me as you're not able to grasp simple things. I'm going to reply when/if you finally make some sense of what's been said here.

Same thing can be said about player B? "He" will be useless as he doesnt have the knowledge required to play in a grp since he doesnt know what to do in that situation.

 

[Eleasias]

You do realise that this is like saying that any zerger with lots of rps will be a good fg player even if they haven't played in that type of setting before.

Err how do you compare a good player with years of 8vs8 experience to _any_ zerger? Zergers hardly ever have a clue how their class should be played, and none of them know how to play them to their full capability. There's a world of a difference between just randomly f8 nuking someone in a zerg and playing in a fg. A good fg however needs players who know excactly what their class is supposed to do and what they are capable of, and extending that to a solo situation isnt that far off.

 

[Gear]

Same thing can be said about player B? "He" will be useless as he doesnt have the knowledge required to play in a grp since he doesnt know what to do in that situation.

With the above numbers I wouldn't say useless. But if we were to say like 4 million rps with 2,000 solo kills, then that would imply lack of any group play experience. It's just that in the example stated above there's no showing weather the majority of the rps came from fg play or from zerging, all it does is to show that there's no solo play experience.

 

[Gear]

Err how do you compare a good player with years of 8vs8 experience to _any_ zerger? Zergers hardly ever have a clue how their class should be played, and none of them know how to play them to their full capability. There's a world of a difference between just randomly f8 nuking someone in a zerg and playing in a fg. A good fg however needs players who know excactly what their class is supposed to do and what they are capable of, and extending that to a solo situation isnt that far off.

How do you compare a soloer with years of solo experience to any 8v8 player? Soloers have to depend fully on themselves, cannot afford mistakes, have no back-up while players in a group if nothing more they have 7 other people to depend on. There's a world of difference between group and solo play. How would you know tho?

edit: Because you're slow to understand things, I'm using your arguments that cannot hold any water. You have to try much harder.

 

[Eleasias]

How do you compare a soloer with years of solo experience to any 8v8 player? Soloers have to depend fully on themselves, cannot afford mistakes, have no back-up while players in a group if nothing more they have 7 other people to depend on. There's a world of difference between group and solo play. How would you know tho?

Wow, just wow. Who the fuck has said that he would do just as good as the solo specialists who have been going at it for years? There's quite a gap between _BEING USELESS_ and being the best.

If you weren't such a noob you might know of a certain ranger being quite famous for his soloing back in the days of OF when soloing was quite a lot more than just porting to DC and doing duels, but how would you know tho?

 

[Gear]

Wow, just wow. Who the fuck has said that he would do just as good as the solo specialists who have been going at it for years? There's quite a gap between _BEING USELESS_ and being the best.

If you weren't such a noob you might know of a certain ranger being quite famous for his soloing back in the days of OF when soloing was quite a lot more than just porting to DC and doing duels, but how would you know tho?

Aye, cause ranger was the hard-mode back then

I saw you soloing (with a partner) with your ranger, was a nice laugh I must admit. No wonders you're talking like that.

Keep it coming.

 

[Eleasias]

I think it's you who's running out of arguments.

 

[Gear]

I think it's you who's running out of arguments.

I'll play with you a bit longer.

The thread developed to a laugh for 2 characters that have way too many rps and next to none solo kills. Most of the people understand the difference. Why's that? Because they know how rps are being gained. Leet people who tie themselves with their digital counter and will display that on their sig even in real life, find that offensive. We all know that rps are not gained by fair fights, but mostly from farming the zerg, a zerg that's not coordinated, that has no heals, that's just there to give rps. At the same time, fgs will go out of their way to get 2 rps per person (not all of them, mind you)

Obviously soloers make rps in the same way. However there is a whole different attitude when it comes to it. Different sense of awareness, different playstyle, different abilities, a whole different world which since you are unable to understand, you want to just diminish it down to your level.

It might work for some poeple, but I'm not some people

 

[noaim]

So this thread concluded that Gear has now passed Dorimor in terms of stupidity, and that if you don't ENJOY soloing you SUCK at it.

If you played your char in a full grp for 60 million rp's you know what tools it has and how and when to use them, that can be applied to soloing as well, the only difference between solo and fg people that makes solo people beat fg people in 1 on 1´s is the realm abilities and to some extent template. I could log on Merils warrior and spec it for solo ra's and put WH and stuff on it and beat your ns 10 times out of 10 every time, and whats with someone elses char that I never had any experience in playing, and with very few solo kills on my spiritmaster, because I dont enjoy playing solo.

I could easily challenge you to take your 7 best solo mates and roll a full grp, and we would roll you over 100% of the time all things being equal.

 

[Gear]

So this thread concluded that Gear has now passed Dorimor in terms of stupidity, and that if you don't ENJOY soloing you SUCK at it.

If you played your char in a full grp for 60 million rp's you know what tools it has and how and when to use them, that can be applied to soloing as well, the only difference between solo and fg people that makes solo people beat fg people in 1 on 1´s is the realm abilities and to some extent template. I could log on Merils warrior and spec it for solo ra's and put WH and stuff on it and beat your ns 10 times out of 10 every time, and whats with someone elses char that I never had any experience in playing, and with very few solo kills on my spiritmaster, because I dont enjoy playing solo.

I could easily challenge you to take your 7 best solo mates and roll a full grp, and we would roll you over 100% of the time all things being equal.

Those are some amazing arguments there! Really!

 

[Kinetix]

beat your ns 10 times out of 10 every time

erm 10 times out of 10 is already everytime no need to repeat it you mofo

Ever heard of redundancy?

 

[noaim]

erm 10 times out of 10 is already everytime no need to repeat it you mofo

Ever heard of redundancy?

Every 10 times I fight him I beat him 10 times you mofo.

And yeah I have, I am surprised you can spell it though, god bless the spell checker ehh?

 

[Lethul]

Those are some amazing arguments there! Really!

true tho?

 

[Kinetix]

Every 10 times I fight him I beat him 10 times you mofo.

And yeah I have, I am surprised you can spell it though, god bless the spell checker ehh?

omg are you stupid or just plain dumb?


ill split it up for you maybe braincells will work

Every 10 times I fight him I beat him 10 times = everytime


10 out of 10 = 100% = always = everytime

Wich part did you not understood of puting the 1rst one and the 2nd one in same sentence?


jeezzz and talking about my spelling...

 

[Gear]

true tho?

What. That he might be able to beat me with a warrior he never played before? Could be, but still pointless argument. It has nothing to do with anything on this thread. That reply was just made for the sake of saying something and prove to my megameight that I back him up, even tho nothing coherent comes out to push the argument on the one or the other side.

It's like "I'm gonna get my dad and I'm gonna show you who's best"

Quite pathetic tbh

 

[noaim]

Those are some amazing arguments there! Really!

Yeah, I guess the only really good argument yet is your "if you dont have x% solo kills you suck".

 

[noaim]

What. That he might be able to beat me with a warrior he never played before? Could be, but still pointless argument. It has nothing to do with anything on this thread. That reply was just made for the sake of saying something and prove to my megameight that I back him up, even tho nothing coherent comes out to push the argument on the one or the other side.

It's like "I'm gonna get my dad and I'm gonna show you who's best"

Quite pathetic tbh

If I can take a char I never played and beat you in a 1 on 1 with it even though I dont solo, how the fuck does that NOT disprove that the entire point you try to make in this thread is wrong? Crawl back into that hole in semi-russia.

 

[Gear]

If I can take a char I never played and beat you in a 1 on 1 with it even though I dont solo, how the fuck does that NOT disprove that the entire point you try to make in this thread is wrong? Crawl back into that hole in semi-russia.

Who told you that just hitting some buttons made you a soloer?

edit: Are you kinda racist again mate?

 

[noaim]

omg are you stupid or just plain dumb?


ill split it up for you maybe braincells will work

Every 10 times I fight him I beat him 10 times = everytime


10 out of 10 = 100% = always = everytime

Wich part did you not understood of puting the 1rst one and the 2nd one in same sentence?


jeezzz and talking about my spelling...

I just wanted to see if I could keep you going. Funny when someone who spells "with" as "whit" and "quite" as "quiet" complains about a typo. Move along.

 

[Shike]

So this thread concluded that Gear has now passed Dorimor in terms of stupidity, and that if you don't ENJOY soloing you SUCK at it.

If you played your char in a full grp for 60 million rp's you know what tools it has and how and when to use them, that can be applied to soloing as well, the only difference between solo and fg people that makes solo people beat fg people in 1 on 1´s is the realm abilities and to some extent template. I could log on Merils warrior and spec it for solo ra's and put WH and stuff on it and beat your ns 10 times out of 10 every time, and whats with someone elses char that I never had any experience in playing, and with very few solo kills on my spiritmaster, because I dont enjoy playing solo.

I could easily challenge you to take your 7 best solo mates and roll a full grp, and we would roll you over 100% of the time all things being equal.

Quite correct sadly... Gear you have totally lost it here mate =/ You arent reading what Eleasisas is saying for some reason. It aint rocketscience...

Person A has 10mill RPs but suck at his class and zerged it up since OF, this fella will probably suck donkeycock solo and yell for friends after a couple rounds of spanking. After he and his friends then PWND the other fella he already lost 7 times to he will probably /rude and /laugh and /dismiss. A tosser in my book, a regular joe in someone elses eyes and who knows, he might even be a nice fella whos paying his own subs!

Person B has 10mill RPs but is a good FGplayer, he knows his limits of his char and he uses it to a near full potential in FGplay. This fella solo has good chanses of performing well if he wants to since he understands his char well and he is used to styling/moving to counterplay strafflers and shit. He may be ubergood at soloplay but at the least he should be performing good, I seriosly doubt that he will perform shit since he has a basic knowledge to stand on, he will probably hone his skills and try to improve aswell since he most likely is of that nature, the FGplayer cares more about how he wins than a zerger which is natural.

Person C has 10mill RPs and soloed alot during the years, he has good knowledge of his char or perhaps just grinded thru all the RPs and lost many fights he should have won. He may be playing a silleh class like Armsman for example who just cant loose if its played right and think hes an ubersoloer when pressing the same ol styles over and over again and well, who cares.


One of the best solovids ive ever seen is actually Faytes champvid, the first one, where he shows the difference between a regular sluggingfest and playing with alittle finesse. Fayte is a very good soloer, another champ who just press every RA/CL/rr5/penisenlarger in every fight and then loose next fight to a rr2 isnt. Solo nowadays for me is just a drag though, I just cba with it I prefer groupplay since its far more social and that is what keeps me playing, the social part. Doesnt make me a bad soloer though, I like to believe I can hold my own vs anyone if I want to. As can anyone who truly soloed for a couple million RPs.

(Fayte is a really nice FGplayer btw...)

 

[noaim]

Who told you that just hitting some buttons made you a soloer?

edit: Are you kinda racist again mate?

Get some real arguments if you are gonna keep this discussion going, otherwise just admit that you were wrong and lets be over with it.

 

[Shike]

I just wanted to see if I could keep you going. Funny when someone who spells "with" as "whit" and "quite" as "quiet" complains about a typo. Move along.

you forgot puting...

 

[Kinetix]

I just wanted to see if I could keep you going. Funny when someone who spells "with" as "whit" and "quite" as "quiet" complains about a typo. Move along.

Funny thing i made a search for whit and quiet and couldnt find anything, do you have your glasses on?

Even if i had typos wich come from fast typing at least i can make a full sentence that is understandable by intelligent ppl.

 

[liloe]

Get a room imho I still need help (see here )wether I should start mid or hib ^^

Just discovered I have a leet elven Champ of doom (Liloe ofc ) on Logres and some Hib lvl 30 chars from the old /level30 time on Dartmoor, lol....and some mids on Stonehenge.

 

[Gear]

Too long to quote

I don't think you actually got the part that I was saying shike, but thanks for bringing Fayte in the picture as it's an excelent example since all of us will agree that he's a great solo player and a great fg player at the same time. Looking at his title, you wont see a ratio of total kills to solo kills that's less that 0.5%

Fayte knows how to solo, and he knows how to play if fgs, and that's great. The original examples however are not like that....

edit:

As can anyone who truly soloed for a couple million RPs.

That really sums it up. Which is something missing from those 2 characters.

 

[Septina]

Funny thing i made a search for whit and quiet and couldnt find anything, do you have your glasses on?

Even if i had typos wich come from fast typing at least i can make a full sentence that is understandable by intelligent ppl.

So your sentences which are filled with typos cause of 'fast typing' can be understood but Aim's which have no typos what so ever aren't? Maybe for people that speak fluent moron as yourself?

 

[Kinetix]

you forgot puting...

And you forget spaces between words and ´ in dosent so shut it