Midgard rvr report

[cercela]

well if they keep determination they should lower purge timer for support classes.

tat way tanks can deter it out and others can purge a bit more often. I know I ge in a number of fights with mids,ae stun, and I'm stuck there cause purge isnt up and i have no deter.

i also think champs and thranes need deter, not sure about the alb equivilant (dont here much whine but give them it too)

maybe change it a lil bit like 5% less per level or something. Just to give a support class a better chance.

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
personally I don't thinkm it should be an RA.

Should be a pure tank (note - savages are not pure tanks) ability - det1 at 30, det2 at 40 and det3 at 50.

and why should pure tanks only get the ability to negate crowd control which is just as devestating or even more so for other classes?

 

[Puppetmistress]

Either remove determination or make it available to ALL classes or nerf it to 5% per level (like most passive RA's are, some even 3%).

I also would like to comment that Determination is fucking up casters, but so does PF (Prevent Flight).

Tanks who can get PF get an unbreakable non-immune snare where my theurgist cannot even snare after root (same specline!!!!!!). Yes I know root is a 99% snare but I don't care, it's silly.

I am not out to make tank-classes RP-cows again but at the moment I think casters are RP-cows. Interrupted very easily, low hp, low AF, no IP for them, Determination, expensive Purge, no AP for them, Prevent Flight, skyhigh resists.

If they want to do a complete RvR-overview I would suggest trying to balance casters vs. tanks and then look across the board tank vs. tank etc etc.

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
personally I don't thinkm it should be an RA.

Should be a pure tank (note - savages are not pure tanks) ability - det1 at 30, det2 at 40 and det3 at 50.

you do know that because of det, hybrid classes have been considered gimped to take in RvR groups (maybe excluding reaver)? Det should be nerfed, it makes every class in a group bad except for support (classes that are needed to be in the group) and the pure tanks.

 

[Negura]

My tanks are very satisfied with the high levels of determination they have.
Unfortunately I have quite a few chars that don't have access to it (healer, minstrel, hunter, necromancer) and for many of them determination is pure frustration.

Redneck tanks should think of this everytime they wait at TK to find the required support classes: they already give up some of the fun (read: damage) to help the group and they received tools for it.
Make those tools less/not effective and ppl will stop playing the support classes.
Determination has its contribution to the trend.

 

[hotrat]

Yep Determination needs to change, i see no reason why tanks should get it and no other class.
Tanks should get something to reduce root, say 5% per level and thats it.

Casters could get the same but for mezz, again 5% per level. Heck chances are something will break the mezz before then anyway.

 

[wolfen_rb]

Casters had their time, now its tank - age. mythic-boys cant balance, face it. if det gets nerfed / savages i wil b playin WoW for months.

i remember the first months of the game, when casters owned, and i ( mayhaps all tanks ) were pretty pissed, b/c we were doomed as useless rp givers front line idiots . low RR and wtf is Determination etc ....
Heavy Tanks get Det b/c the have to do it MELEE. walk all the way thru enemy lines for their primary targets, get nuked and hacked from behind.....NO Det or lower DET ???.....yeah sure, full pulll stunn and dead tank, no chance to move back in heal range / save grp area OK !!!!

what i dont get is the fact tha mids get 3 det classes and specially the already overpowerd Savage ( nerf btw )

some enlighten me pls !

what ruins the game and make casters pissed atm is imho the fact that there is INSTA CC. w/o Insta CC crap casters can play w their range casts, and stay out of the danger. but i never played / will never play a caster, so call me what u want

Wolfen out.

p.s. PF is ok, since we hevay tanks have to do it MELEE

 

[censi]

Shaman: takes conc, need to rebuff it after dieing.

Yer thats a real downside!

Swap for bards end????? get real dude.

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by censi
Yer thats a real downside!

Swap for bards end????? get real dude.

its costing conc (added without the existence of buffbots) is a real downside, but atleast those people have end, which cant be said for the hibs. But then again they got more buffs (again if there were no BB's).
Now I am curious wether or not mythic balances this game assuming everyone has a buffbot, no one has one or something in between,

 

[beehappy]

Censi - about rezist.
Ask - how many wardens have 24% spirit and how many healers have 24% energy?
And this is not "spec problem". Just full aug (high-aug) healer can only make this rezist + celerity in fight - that's all. And show me group, wich take that gimp? Atm ppl do 37/39 or 39/37 aug/mend healers. It's not enuff for 24% rezist.

About end compare.
LOL
Pala's end drain powa? - oks - MCL or mana potions.
Bard's end can be interrupted? run to 2000 range, u can do that.
Let's imagine. In the middle of fight small kobbi begin cast 1-2-4-8 end buffs how long he will be alive?

i'll wish ONE group buff, wich eat conc. But let me recast that for ALL group per one cast after death. And think all be ok.

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by beehappy
Pala's end drain powa? - oks - MCL or mana potions.

paladins dont have access to mcl

 

[beehappy]

then give him mana regen and some mana potions

P.S. and wb again, Anubis