How to spec a thane for fg rvr?

[cmr]

how can someone be so blind and narrow minded, you chose the wrong realm my friend and id add more so to that of what ive seen of your playstyle

how can you compare yourself to someone who plays there class at the top tier of competative FG RvR, to yourself, who is some random guy. You havnt been tested anywhere near how he has been tested. Like saying you can cut it worldwide after competing in local competitions, arrogant and blind

 

[Arethir]

Eithor, if you ever played a caster in a fg, you would know there is something called interupts. Meaning you won't get off alot of spells.
Now, if you are to bodyguard, you really don't have much of a chance to move out of this interupt range. If you try to cast spells while BG'ing, the target your BG'ing will die.
Thanes don't get grappled alot. Root happens, but so does purge.
Your damage calculations seem really neat though, if only you can get MoC4 and somehow manage to bug the insta spells so they are up every 1-2 sec.
I haven't tried DoomHammer, but it sounds really nice. What is the RUT on it?
And I'm sure they will hit RR11 in Xnys group soon enough. If you'd look it up you see they're already above RR10, one even at 10L8 and closing in.

come on now, rr6-7 is about 1-2 weeks of play with a good group, so a rr8 thane that only played in a "good" group have close to no "real" thane experience

Actually, just the fact that they manage to get that much rps, should show you that they win alot of fights, ie all players of the group must be playing good, and if the kind of RvR they're playing (the "elite" fg vs fg area), which is what this thread is asking about, is not a good enough example of how one should play a thane, I don't know what is.

I'm sure you enjoy the spec you have, but I have doubts you've ever played that spec in an opted fg fighting other fgs and actually making it worth while. Any good enemy group shouldn't have the biggest problem working around a thane who thinks he is a caster. It's more like "lol, why didn't they get a rm/sm instead!". You do have more AF, and you can swap to BG and scratch the tank on the casters, but your dmg is nowhere close to casters, you don't have NS, and you don't have a pet. And don't tell me you can do alot of melee dps with the caster spec, after spending all those rps on MoC4 and i dont know what, the enemy healers should be able to heal up the 200-300 dmg a swing you do on a tank with 2.5k+ hps.


Edit: Keep in mind Eithor, this is the "fg crowd" you're speaking to on this forum. If you want respect and people who speak of how good you play, talk to the "solo crowd" or what it is you usually do ingame. I'm sure there's a reason as to why you're RR11, but it's not the opted fg vs fg groups I'm quite sure.

 

[Gahn]

Pretty sure Crom will take the Fg crew hints before all, rest is pure bitching imo ^^
That said peeps who can achieve rr7-8 in 3 weeks of play means they win many fights = their ideas of group speccs > others.

 

[Cadelin]

This is a silly argument.

Some people have read the question as:
"How should I spec my Thane given he is meant to be the BGer in our set group?"
To the people who play alot in a set group, I agree you know what you want from a thane but that doesn't mean the thane is not capable of doing other things quite well which I believe is what Eithor is trying to say.


Others have read the question as:
What can a Thane bring to a fg and how should I spec him to achieve this?
To Eithor, in a set group you sometimes need people to play in a way that allows others classes to play better even if your own capabilities are reduced.


I believe both questions have been answered to death now anyway.

 

[Tuthmes]

Somehow i find Eithor's post much more constructive and convincing, then the;

"you sir, are clueless",
"it's kinda sad really",
"they play in competative rvr, so stfu",
or the ever so boring,
"look they became rr11 in 2 weeks, so they must be knowing what they are doing, it's the only^^ way forward".

 

[Tuthmes]

I believe both questions have been answered to death now anyway.

Indeed.

 

[Megarevs]

Somehow i find Eithor's post much more constructive and convincing, then the;

"you sir, are clueless",
"it's kinda sad really",
"they play in competative rvr, so stfu",
or the ever so boring,
"look they became rr11 in 2 weeks, so they must be knowing what they are doing, it's the only^^ way forward".

this is well worth a rep...

 

[cmr]

this is well worth a rep...

stfu apa!

 

[Megarevs]

stfu apa!

Damn Man U Fan! Go away!!!

 

[duact]

I got a thane with 60days played and 400k rps so I for sure have "real" thane experience! Lots of questing and gimp playing there.

 

[liloe]

After reading all the posts I'm gonna spec 50shield, 50parry, 27SC and 10 sword. This will give slow but steady dmg (see insta pbae and insta DD), while giving myself absolute defense to negate enemy damage.

Ololol, RR11 in 3 years mates, that's when I don't get adds in the 3h lasting fights =)

P.S. Sorry I'm bored and can't do anything atm =)

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Funny thread.

One day I actually start to believe that to be a good Thane and to spec properly one has to play on Avalon.

You Xnysgarqueachtsa guys might want to not record fights meanwhile that show how the groups you call best try to melee train one BG'ed target instead of splitting a bit up for example, so I have it easier to believe you.

^^

And Arethir, you're too much of a fanboy lately.

 

[Vodkafairy]

don't hesitate to roll a group and fight valheru and wolfbash, you'll find out if they split assist or not

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

don't hesitate to roll a group and fight valheru and wolfbash, you'll find out if they split assist or not

Thanks, I have a life and you provide this information for free.

 

[Vodkafairy]

Thanks, I have a life and you provide this information for free.

in the time you spent spouting shit on fh you could have rolled and fully equipped a whole group by yourself, yet you have a life and everyone that rolls a group does not?

nice logic

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

in the time you spent spouting shit on fh you could have rolled and fully equipped a whole group by yourself, yet you have a life and everyone that rolls a group does not?

nice logic

Dunno, it doesn't take me a day to type a letter on a forum. From what I have seen from yours and others movies the groups on Avalon are as good or as bad as everywhere else, but I know that you need to keep your egos high when your existance is based on them, so keep it going.

Yawn.

 

[Rigga Mortice]

Dunno, it doesn't take me a day to type a letter on a forum. From what I have seen from yours and others movies the groups on Avalon are as good or as bad as everywhere else, but I know that you need to keep your egos high when your existance is based on them, so keep it going.

Yawn.

Coming from someone who feels he has to respond to every reply to his FH ramblings, this amuses me.

<insert reply>

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

I'm glad, being amused is good.

 

[Septina]

Dunno, it doesn't take me a day to type a letter on a forum. From what I have seen from yours and others movies the groups on Avalon are as good or as bad as everywhere else, but I know that you need to keep your egos high when your existance is based on them, so keep it going.

Yawn.

The groups on avalon are tougher mainly becuase they have the rr's and usually blow everything they have each fight. Even having some groups 'rest' for 10 mins after every fight.

 

[pip]

No need to spec a thane for rvr? just get bodyguard and leech ftw

 

[daoc_xianghua]

Somehow i find Eithor's post much more constructive and convincing, then the;

"you sir, are clueless",
"it's kinda sad really",
"they play in competative rvr, so stfu",
or the ever so boring,
"look they became rr11 in 2 weeks, so they must be knowing what they are doing, it's the only^^ way forward".

might not be the nicest way to say it, yet they are correct.

i dont doubt that Eithor has some expirience on thanes but fgvfg is about teamplay and therefor a player who played for whatever 20 million rps in 8v8 only will know better and do better than him from day 1 on IN A SET 8v8 GROUP. might be different thing solo but this discussion is about 8v8 and 8v8 only
and therefor i´d value the opinion of some1 who played for xxx million rps in fg only more than the opinion of some1 who played solo/duo/random group/zerg 95% of the time even if he is rr11.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

It's all in the flow, cocksuckers value the opinion of cocks, nothing new .

 

[Davejohnson]

god damn you crave alot of attention Manish_Depressiv, whats the matter, your dad abused you alot?

 

[Arethir]

And Arethir, you're too much of a fanboy lately.

The group Duact/Dreami is playing in, would beat any group Eithor joins, any day. Infact, they can beat any group, on the whole of cluster, both the english one and the ava/lyo one. They play very good. You can say whatever you want, but they play alot, and they are amongst the best groups in RvR I know. Therefor, there must be something they're doing, that makes them this good. Their specs being one of these things. And despite what you might think, getting to nearly RR9 on a thane, solely by fg vs fg action, is actually what I choose to call experience on playing a thane in fg vs fg action.

As said, Eithor might be one hell of a player, but he does not have experience from fighting with and against the best groups out there in fg vs fg action.

And I'm sorry if I disappoint you, but I would rather take advice from a player who plays the kind of RvR I'm aiming to play, than one who is not.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

The group Duact/Dreami is playing in, would beat any group Eithor joins, any day. Infact, they can beat any group, on the whole of cluster, both the english one and the ava/lyo one. They play very good. You can say whatever you want, but they play alot, and they are amongst the best groups in RvR I know. Therefor, there must be something they're doing, that makes them this good. Their specs being one of these things. And despite what you might think, getting to nearly RR9 on a thane, solely by fg vs fg action, is actually what I choose to call experience on playing a thane in fg vs fg action.

As said, Eithor might be one hell of a player, but he does not have experience from fighting with and against the best groups out there in fg vs fg action.

And I'm sorry if I disappoint you, but I would rather take advice from a player who plays the kind of RvR I'm aiming to play, than one who is not.

I agree on all of that, but speccing a Thane or any char is not rocket science. If you are not an idiot you can look up the styles and spells on the herald and get a good idea of what a spec should be like, then try it for a few runs et voila.

 

[Arethir]

Or... Someone lazy who just wanna get started with the best spec from the start!

 

[liloe]

The group Duact/Dreami is playing in, would beat any group Eithor joins, any day. Infact, they can beat any group, on the whole of cluster, both the english one and the ava/lyo one.

Freaking hell Arethir =) This is getting really fanboy style writing now :wub:

I mean yer they are good, but so are their enemies =) Sometimes they win, sometimes they loose =) So why shouldn't a group with Eithor win against them? =)

in the time you spent spouting shit on fh you could have rolled and fully equipped a whole group by yourself, yet you have a life and everyone that rolls a group does not?

nice logic

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Vodkafairy again.

Shit =) Don't be so nasty Mani

 

[Davejohnson]

sometimes they loose =)

proof??????

 

[Vodkafairy]

we never lose

but 5 relics have nothing to do with that

 

[Eleasias]

I mean yer they are good, but so are their enemies =) Sometimes they win, sometimes they loose =) So why shouldn't a group with Eithor win against them? =)

more like we win 99% of the time and lose a couple fights every now and then to a few specific groups, ever since we got the relics it hasnt been even that fun anymore, before we had the relics it atleast felt like we were playing good :< it was even better when you pulled off 90k irs vs 3 str relics on alb and no bonus for yourself