How to spec a thane for fg rvr?

[Jarahl]

Didnt know that u have to be a clueless noob to solo with a different spec than what u think is best
Do u even have a Thane ?

Duact plays a thane for Xnys on Avalon afaik Oo

 

[Imon]

Didnt know that u have to be a clueless noob to solo with a different spec than what u think is best
Do u even have a Thane ?

Dont mind him, if its not specced as he say its noobish, always has been, always will be
He's one of them I rock irl cause i can push buttons in the right order guys

why the anger duact? You cant possible back something up with "its for clueless noobs"?

You always do that?

"-So..... duact, how do you think we should build this house? 1 or 2 floors?
- 2 floors!!!111eleven! anything else is for noobs and zerglings I tell you!!!
- But the 1 floor house has a better design don't you think?
- You Noob!!!! you are so stupid!! such a clueless zergling!!!"

 

[Eleasias]

50 sword 42 shield 39 sc is the way to go, nothing can beat ragna dmg, anytime stun is too nice to miss and sc will interrupt even if its lower lvl. only other spec i could think of is 50 sword 50 sc but missing slam is a bit gay

 

[ripperbil]

Thanes arent for fg anyway so why bother ...

 

[Septima]

There is nothing wrong on rolling a frostie, template it as a caster, skip the melee damage and make it a caster/bger in fg. The range and the damage on 50sc spec is atractive enough at this point to be efective. And since thanes don't have stoicism or that big defence it can be a nice low rr spec and playstyle.
In one word your spec will determine your role/playstyle in a fg. It would be clueless to think thanes are only viable when having 50sword.

 

[Agreathien]

imo if i was to roll a thane again i would make it go 42 sheild 50 SC and 39 sword its a nice solo and grp spec

 

[duact]

There is nothing wrong on rolling a frostie, template it as a caster, skip the melee damage and make it a caster/bger in fg. The range and the damage on 50sc spec is atractive enough at this point to be efective. And since thanes don't have stoicism or that big defence it can be a nice low rr spec and playstyle.
In one word your spec will determine your role/playstyle in a fg. It would be clueless to think thanes are only viable when having 50sword.

You won't kill shit with stormcalling dmg in fg rvr therefor melee dmg is the way to go. And if u make a thane for the love of god make a troll.

 

[duact]

Didnt know that u have to be a clueless noob to solo with a different spec than what u think is best
Do u even have a Thane ?

Actually I have 2 level 50 thanes.

1 is dwarf and casterspec, one is troll and meleeroxstar.

Needless to say, one is useless.

 

[Dreami]

Lol.

50 sword is too OP so let's go 50 sc to be even more OP.

 

[cmr]

You dont, but you DO sacrifice damage by going 50 sword+shield over 50 2H sword. It depends on your playstyle and what a FG would want your role to be - but for damage on the train id be very happy with a 50sw 50sc thane in my group (providing I had a WAR with slam)

ohh and the champ 2H sword for a thane is phhhwwwwwmmmmmm nice :0

you justify your position as a mod by not knowing what your talking about

you want to be hitting as fast as possible with proc damage and not relying on celerity and if your debuffed jajaja etc, best to go with TD or somthing faster like gazjis if you really want, dont know thanes only valk but its the same, and id agree with aim the greek wannabe 42 shield 50 sword rest ae hammer jajaland simple as

 

[Dreami]

There is nothing wrong on rolling a frostie, template it as a caster, skip the melee damage and make it a caster/bger in fg. The range and the damage on 50sc spec is atractive enough at this point to be efective. And since thanes don't have stoicism or that big defence it can be a nice low rr spec and playstyle.
In one word your spec will determine your role/playstyle in a fg. It would be clueless to think thanes are only viable when having 50sword.

Spot the clueless noob.

Frostalf Thanes are like Avalonian Armsmen. Why would anyone want to hit 2xx damage with dds when you can hit minimum of 600 every time in melee with celerity?

Besides versus good groups there is never time to cast, except when you're rooted away from teammates that you're supposed to bg.

 

[cmr]

You won't kill shit with stormcalling dmg in fg rvr therefor melee dmg is the way to go. And if u make a thane for the love of god make a troll.

not sure about troll and hitting 250 qui, id go norse.... they dont look like some gimp called trollum either xD plus dex for casting, blocking

 

[Dreami]

not sure about troll and hitting 250 qui, id go norse.... they dont look like some gimp called trollum either xD plus dex for casting, blocking

Löl. My troll has 240 qui with aug quick2.

 

[Raven]

Löl

























get out more

 

[Dreami]

Löl


get out more

Are you Marc's friend? Based on your supposed IQ, I think you are.

 

[cmr]

Löl. My troll has 240 qui with aug quick2.

well i was stating the fact you want to cap 250 qui without having to spend so many ra points and adjusting template from what a norse would template to hit 250 qui, as my valk needed 20 qui cap and aq2 although i was orignally spear so no qui at creation which really fucking sucks , pros and cons to norse and troll. which im sure everyone will know

dont know what it takes for a troll to cap qui, but having missed 8 qui on my valk and then afterwards noticing the difference of my attack speed was really noticable so based on that from my experience the first thing you do in a valk/thane or even reaver whatever template is to make sure you will be getting qui at 250, then str or whatever comes afterwards

 

[Raven]

Based on your supposed IQ, I think you are.

who is the one calling people noobs for having a different opinion teenagemate?

its quite amusing how some people still throw their toys of of the pram over some stupid dead computer game

 

[Himse]

imo if i was to roll a thane again i would make it go 42 sheild 50 SC and 39 sword its a nice solo and grp spec

lol, no.

 

[Septima]

Spot the clueless noob.

Frostalf Thanes are like Avalonian Armsmen. Why would anyone want to hit 2xx damage with dds when you can hit minimum of 600 every time in melee with celerity?

Besides versus good groups there is never time to cast, except when you're rooted away from teammates that you're supposed to bg.

Yeah, calling me clueless noob is the best way to defend your arguments. If i'm not going for melee why the fxxx would i go for troll?
Unless you show me some logs with an average of dps over time with both specs in fg fights that shows me that melee spec really outdamage the caster spec you are not allowed to call me clueless.
The point is that it's easier to land a spell on someone than a positional melee style, even more if it's a spell with 1.85k range.
And tbfh i'm not discuting here what is the best spec, i'm just stating there is at least two viable specs for fg rvr. Unless you can show me i'm wrong you can keep me calling me noob if it makes you feel "special" ~~

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Actually I have 2 level 50 thanes.

1 is dwarf and casterspec, one is troll and meleeroxstar.

Needless to say, one is useless.

I have 2 lv 50 thanes too

One is a frostalf hybrid spec and the other is a norse more-melee spec.
Needless to say i dont even touch the one of them.

 

[duact]

I have 2 lv 50 thanes too

One is a frostalf hybrid spec and the other is a norse more-melee spec.
Needless to say i dont even touch the one of them.

Yes but then again wtf do you know about "fg rvr", thats what the threadstarter is intrested in, not 4fg zerging or soloing.

 

[Nuxtobatns]

39sc 50sword 42 shield
all other spex are for clueless noobs who either solo or are stupid!

...

 

[Bonehead]

Group spec depends on your group setup.

If you got some other class in your group who have slam, you should assist them and spec 50 sword 50 sc 23 shield for doomhammer and long range interupts.

If not, 50 sword 42 shield rest sc for low powercost medium range interupt, but slam and ragna instead.

 

[Lethul]

im not that sure that 50sword/50sc is useless duact. have you seen the damage on doomhammer? (can you use it with sword? ). altho slam would be better most of the time, almost all the time when i think about it

 

[liloe]

The point is that it's easier to land a spell on someone than a positional melee style, even more if it's a spell with 1.85k range.
And tbfh i'm not discuting here what is the best spec, i'm just stating there is at least two viable specs for fg rvr.

Now even if duact and dreami act like a bit young of age.....I tend to agree that 50/42/39 is the way to go. I've played Valk instead of Thane, but ehm.....casting without 10% passive piercing and 8% dmg? Don't bother and use lower SC to have less mana costs for casting. 50sc and 39weap is not a viable spec for "fg RvR", it might be for zergage if you wanna hit for more with the hammers of lag

Same goes for Frostalf melee classes....there is simply no reason to do such a thing ^^ I mean I'm not going mad about a few minor things, like people rolling Inconnu infil, it's "only" 10 lost points after all and I went Avalonian Cleric myself but when you look at the key stats, then Frostalf is much worse than every other choice. Personally I would go for Norseman aswell though, cause I think Trolls are ugly ^^

 

[kivik]

Same goes for Frostalf melee classes....there is simply no reason to do such a thing ^^

Challenge, my friend.

 

[liloe]

Challenge, my friend.

The only valid reason is, that Frostalves are TEH sexy =)) But then roll a Healer =) I wish I could race swich from norse to frostiecutey =)

 

[Septima]

Now even if duact and dreami act like a bit young of age.....I tend to agree that 50/42/39 is the way to go. I've played Valk instead of Thane, but ehm.....casting without 10% passive piercing and 8% dmg? Don't bother and use lower SC to have less mana costs for casting. 50sc and 39weap is not a viable spec for "fg RvR", it might be for zergage if you wanna hit for more with the hammers of lag

Same goes for Frostalf melee classes....there is simply no reason to do such a thing ^^ I mean I'm not going mad about a few minor things, like people rolling Inconnu infil, it's "only" 10 lost points after all and I went Avalonian Cleric myself but when you look at the key stats, then Frostalf is much worse than every other choice. Personally I would go for Norseman aswell though, cause I think Trolls are ugly ^^

It's more a playstyle question than efectiveness.
If i want to go for 50 sword and ragnarok people down it's obvious trolls are the best race. If i want to interrupt and stay behind with casters/healers and skip melee, frosties, cause of high dext, are the choice.
The spell damage on a thane is not that good compared to a pure caster, i'm aware of that, the 50 sc will only give a faster DD and bigger range and that's the point to go at least 48SC.
You can have on a thane 7% spell damage, 5% passive piercing, 10% cast speed and around 330 dext, with a 2.4 cast speed spell it's ok.
And i still maintain it, dps wise, melee vs magic damage you shouldn't see a lot of diference between the 2 specs.
But the main role of a thane on a grp it's not to be a dps machine, you got better toons for that, it's to be a versatile(sp) BGer and a ok interrupter, the dps he can provide are a plus.

Now if you want melee toons down with ragnarok, fine pick a troll and go get them, if you prefer to play like a caster, go frostie. It's a playstyle choice and tbfh i can't say for sure wich one is better.

My only point was that there is more than 1 viable spec for thanes, and i will stick with my opinion.

 

[liloe]

Now if you want melee toons down with ragnarok, fine pick a troll and go get them, if you prefer to play like a caster, go frostie. It's a playstyle choice and tbfh i can't say for sure wich one is better.

My only point was that there is more than 1 viable spec for thanes, and i will stick with my opinion.

Well it was about FG RvR though and the point is, using a Thane with a magic template for FG RvR plain sux =) Play a caster then =)

 

[Davejohnson]

Yeah, calling me clueless noob is the best way to defend your arguments. If i'm not going for melee why the fxxx would i go for troll?
Unless you show me some logs with an average of dps over time with both specs in fg fights that shows me that melee spec really outdamage the caster spec you are not allowed to call me clueless.
The point is that it's easier to land a spell on someone than a positional melee style, even more if it's a spell with 1.85k range.
And tbfh i'm not discuting here what is the best spec, i'm just stating there is at least two viable specs for fg rvr. Unless you can show me i'm wrong you can keep me calling me noob if it makes you feel "special" ~~

bodyguarders are most likely interrupted as they spend most of their time close to enemy tanks.

thanes strength is their dps while bodyguarding.

thanes instead of warrior with stoi because of the interrupts.