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How do you spec and why? 
RAs? How were you specced 24 for BG? End spec? Happy with friar?
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RAs? How were you specced 24 for BG? End spec? Happy with friar?
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My friar on PvP was spec'd 44staff 48enhance 7parry and 7rejuv, was great for pvp had nice resists and was a very good dmg dealer, but it's not so viable for RvR.
Most friars got for 18-25rejuv on RvR server for ok healing, probably around 39staff, 45-49enhance (depends if you want best resists or not) and rest parry
Hope that helps.
Most friars got for 18-25rejuv on RvR server for ok healing, probably around 39staff, 45-49enhance (depends if you want best resists or not) and rest parry
Hope that helps.
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bob007
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Astic, end spec was 49 e for top resists. 39 staff. 15 r rest parry.
RA's would have to be purge at first, being a none det toon. Rest prob up to player, Never tried reflex attack or trip so can't comment.
"happy with it"
Erm no, To long between times you'd hit someone and the time you are able to cast heals. Self absorb Buff means Buff don't work. Paladin Af chant overrights own self AF buff. Very nice fighter in pve, Very hard to play in rvr. Not a great tank due to no det, Not a great healer due to low rejuv, Tho i must admit some ppl player theres very well and respect to them.
Astics spec is now 45e, 39 staff, 24 r, rest parry. Has got dodger 3, mopain 2 moparry 2 and just basically a pve farm bot now, Friars are excellent in pve, But are falling behind in the tank/caster game that is rvr.
Disclaimer, this is just my opinion, honest
RA's would have to be purge at first, being a none det toon. Rest prob up to player, Never tried reflex attack or trip so can't comment.
"happy with it"
Erm no, To long between times you'd hit someone and the time you are able to cast heals. Self absorb Buff means Buff don't work. Paladin Af chant overrights own self AF buff. Very nice fighter in pve, Very hard to play in rvr. Not a great tank due to no det, Not a great healer due to low rejuv, Tho i must admit some ppl player theres very well and respect to them.
Astics spec is now 45e, 39 staff, 24 r, rest parry. Has got dodger 3, mopain 2 moparry 2 and just basically a pve farm bot now, Friars are excellent in pve, But are falling behind in the tank/caster game that is rvr.
Disclaimer, this is just my opinion, honest
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benedictines
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Friars have problems atm.....
In rvr versus decent groups you do need 2 clerics (contrary to my earlier statements ;p )Thus even a friar with decent rejuv (Bene has 25) won't cut it. It might work in the zerg in emain, but as I said against a half decent enemy group your healing wont cut it...
That leaves 44 staff.... I had that and will probably respec back to it since TB normally runs with 2 clerics now. However, Friars dont have det, and arent viable as tanks anymore imo.
Where does that leave us? Group utility is much lower now (resists are next to useless, healing is below par, you don't make as good a tank as most others)
Thats why I dont play Bene much now.
As for spec I guess you can go 44 staff if you hate healing, 25 rejuv spec if you cant always rely on 2 clerics. Either way the class needs reworking (not loving btw ;-) )
In rvr versus decent groups you do need 2 clerics (contrary to my earlier statements ;p )Thus even a friar with decent rejuv (Bene has 25) won't cut it. It might work in the zerg in emain, but as I said against a half decent enemy group your healing wont cut it...
That leaves 44 staff.... I had that and will probably respec back to it since TB normally runs with 2 clerics now. However, Friars dont have det, and arent viable as tanks anymore imo.
Where does that leave us? Group utility is much lower now (resists are next to useless, healing is below par, you don't make as good a tank as most others)
Thats why I dont play Bene much now.
As for spec I guess you can go 44 staff if you hate healing, 25 rejuv spec if you cant always rely on 2 clerics. Either way the class needs reworking (not loving btw ;-) )
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Thanks for all the feedback guys
Shouldn't I go for 44 Ench for the 44 Blessing of Dissipation +15% ABS buff? :>
Btw, I was thinking 21 Staff, 18 ench, 8 parry for bg :> (Level 24)
Shouldn't I go for 44 Ench for the 44 Blessing of Dissipation +15% ABS buff? :>
Btw, I was thinking 21 Staff, 18 ench, 8 parry for bg :> (Level 24)
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44s, 47e, 7r, 12p imo. But I don't play one
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Jiggs
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forgot to add that i dont rvr atm in groups, just occasionally solo in odd hours
this is due to mythic being clueless and slightly retarded
this is due to mythic being clueless and slightly retarded
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old.Kian
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39 staff, 45 enhance, 25 rejuve, 12 parry. That's a great spec for PvE, it lets you make full use of the hybrid nature of a friar (can heal pretty well, can lay down a godly amount of smack). Not an ideal RvR spec... but then gank squadding isn't my personal cup of tea. When I do go out to the frontiers, it's usually in a guild group for a keep take or defence, and I can earn my keep there.
I was considering 34 staff, 45 enhance, 34 rejuve, 1 parry at one point, but found 25 rejuve with MCL enough to do a healer's job in AC groups.
I was considering 34 staff, 45 enhance, 34 rejuve, 1 parry at one point, but found 25 rejuve with MCL enough to do a healer's job in AC groups.
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old.Ashgen
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So ...
Are Friars of no use now in RvR?
I thought they were the uber Albion class other realms feared?
Are Friars of no use now in RvR?
I thought they were the uber Albion class other realms feared?
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old.Zeikerd
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Re: So ...
Only Albion class people fear is the infiltrator, the rest are all gimps.
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benedictines
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Re: So ...
They were the only class that was balanced in Albion.
As a result, whilst other classes have been tinkered with ad infinitum, friars have not.
Nerfs follow love follow nerfs - the 'special' hybrid nature has been eroded not by what they did to friars but by what they did to other classes whilst largely ignoring what it did to friars (taunt and hot anyone? )
They were the only class that was balanced in Albion.
As a result, whilst other classes have been tinkered with ad infinitum, friars have not.
Nerfs follow love follow nerfs - the 'special' hybrid nature has been eroded not by what they did to friars but by what they did to other classes whilst largely ignoring what it did to friars (taunt and hot anyone? )
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im 49 enhance, 39 staff, 13 parry, 15 rejuv.. i generally hit for 3-500...
im going for RA's in following order:
purge
AOM 1
aug dex 2
MoPain 2
MoParry 1
Aug qui 2
Dodger 2
AOM 2
then IP.
later on i havent decide..
But it can be hard to get grps sometimes if u dont have a stlong rvr guild grp.. ppl always tell u they dont want u cause u dont have Determination... think a lot of ppl forget the uber resists a friar bring into the grp... i laugh at chanters with my 56% resist..
im going for RA's in following order:
purge
AOM 1
aug dex 2
MoPain 2
MoParry 1
Aug qui 2
Dodger 2
AOM 2
then IP.
later on i havent decide..
But it can be hard to get grps sometimes if u dont have a stlong rvr guild grp.. ppl always tell u they dont want u cause u dont have Determination... think a lot of ppl forget the uber resists a friar bring into the grp... i laugh at chanters with my 56% resist..
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Jiggs
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even after they debuff ur 56% down to -26%?
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Athis
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Originally posted by Deletium
think a lot of ppl forget the uber resists a friar bring into the grp... i laugh at chanters with my 56% resist..
Yes, I laugh at chanters who use their heat nukes instead of the pbae and don't even heat debuff me. Or to put it another way, I laugh at newbie/generally stupid chanters
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39 Staff
49 Enhancement
15 Rejuvenation
13 Parry
Its a combat friar spec, well full combat friar spec is 0 or 7 in rejuvenation. Its a common spec for combat friars and its good to
49 Enhancement
15 Rejuvenation
13 Parry
Its a combat friar spec, well full combat friar spec is 0 or 7 in rejuvenation. Its a common spec for combat friars and its good to
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25 rejuv. ? wtf... FRIARS ARE NOT HEALERS?! Get it? Make a cleric if you wanna do seriously healing!
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44 rejuv for teh win
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Whuzz is specced 39 Staff / 49 Ench / 18 Reju / Rest parry (9 i think it was) it is a rather viable spec for PvE and RvR, although as it was said already be4, Friar's in RvR groups aren't that wanted / needed anymore since their use / need factor is nearly down to 0, after some reading and thinking about it it is even rather correct.
And still, friar is about the only class that i really enjoy playing ^^
What concerns RA's i will stay passivly specced until RR5 and then just respec, since the actives just cost tooooo many points.
For the start :
Aug Dex 2
Aug Qui 2
Mastery of Pain 2
Mastery of Parry 2
Dodger 2
Avoidance of magic 1
Long Wind 1 (Sprint + Endreggen for a long long time)
Aug Cons 2
Toughness 2
That is about what i have at the moment, maybe i missed some ^^
Whuzz
And still, friar is about the only class that i really enjoy playing ^^
What concerns RA's i will stay passivly specced until RR5 and then just respec, since the actives just cost tooooo many points.
For the start :
Aug Dex 2
Aug Qui 2
Mastery of Pain 2
Mastery of Parry 2
Dodger 2
Avoidance of magic 1
Long Wind 1 (Sprint + Endreggen for a long long time)
Aug Cons 2
Toughness 2
That is about what i have at the moment, maybe i missed some ^^
Whuzz
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And make an armsman if all you want to do is melee... you'll be a lot more popular in an RvR groups than an "I read VN boards friahs r uber" stick-waver with 1 in rejuve
A friar can't heal as well as a cleric - but really, they aren't as good a tank as an armsman or a merc either. The class is a hybrid, it's designed to be multi-role. It's just a pity that there isn't really a place for all-rounders in top-of-the-line RvR groups; a good gank squad consists of specialists working in perfect coordination.
"FRIARS ARE NOT HEALERS?!" I suggest you try asking people who've grouped in PvE with myself, Athis or another 25 rejuve friar... we can keep a group alive (nothing short of a proper rejuve cleric will do in RvR, of course) AND we can wade into the fight if that's what's required.
If you don't want to heal at all - you probably picked the wrong class. Personally, I think alb RvR groups suffer because there's only 1 class doing the healing, as opposed to the 2 in a mid group or 3 with hibs, but that's just a personal opinion.
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got 39 staff, 47 enh, 16 parry, 18 rejuf
only 10ws less then mine friar specc in 1.60 and that was 50 staff.... ( fully buffed by own buffs )
only 10ws less then mine friar specc in 1.60
and that was 50 staff.... ( fully buffed by own buffs )
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Slesh, when will ppl understand that the friar is a hybrid, "not as good as the "pure" classes, but only need 1 class". A friar cant do "seriously (wtf pwn) healing", but they can still save the cleric(s) some times... 25reju makes you're base heals stable, i surgest you learn about the toon you are playing...
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39 Staff
49 Enhanc (Was 47 for Haste but respecced)
18 Rejuv (215hp stable heal. usually not healing in combat + 30% rez)
9 Parry (Not like it's so critical)
RA:s
Dodger3
MoPain3
3L8
Used both respecs.. actually took Dodger3 by accident. Will respec to Dodger2 and probably only MoPain2 too.. then get Purge. After that IP.
49 Enhanc (Was 47 for Haste but respecced)
18 Rejuv (215hp stable heal. usually not healing in combat + 30% rez)
9 Parry (Not like it's so critical)
RA:s
Dodger3
MoPain3
3L8
Used both respecs.. actually took Dodger3 by accident. Will respec to Dodger2 and probably only MoPain2 too.. then get Purge. After that IP.
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benedictines
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Maybe in the zerg in emain, but elsewhere our poxy friar heals aint worth the power spent on em - were basically prolonging the pain
Its difficult enough to save a cleric with a cleric against a half decent group
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haha wtfpwned!!1!one
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Indeed. I play a friar, and while not being extreme high realm-rank (4L7) I really think the added rejuvenation does have its plusses. Either for the spec-heals, the HoT (ok, not that great) or the low variation in your baseline-heals.
Would also like to point out that a 'balanced' friar (eg with more then 7 in rejuvenation) has way lower downtime in PvE too. I am only 18 rejuvenation but I can heal myselves quite nicely and fast after a fight.
I can imagine in some fixed RvR-groups there's not much need for a rejuv-friar and you go higher staff for added weaponskill but in both PvE (solo or group) and in (semi-)random RvR-groups it's very nice to have 'some' rejuvenation as friar.
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44s 45e 15r 12p I think
I'd love to have 25 rejuv but I like the 44 style so I'm going to stay as I am for the time being. RAs are the usual lot - I'd definately recommend Long Wind 1 or 3 for long or non-stop sprint respectively. (Think there was some test somewhere showing LW2 as worthless with high enh)
Jiggs did you whack all your starting points in dex or something? Mine went into str and pie I think (well first char but could be worse....emp 4tehwin). I'm gonna need a buttload more aug dex to break 300 - think I get 292 self buffed with aug dex 2.
I'd love to have 25 rejuv but I like the 44 style so I'm going to stay as I am for the time being. RAs are the usual lot - I'd definately recommend Long Wind 1 or 3 for long or non-stop sprint respectively. (Think there was some test somewhere showing LW2 as worthless with high enh)
Jiggs did you whack all your starting points in dex or something? Mine went into str and pie I think (well first char but could be worse....emp 4tehwin). I'm gonna need a buttload more aug dex to break 300 - think I get 292 self buffed with aug dex 2.
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ye, vs. assisting tank group you might as well forget it :/
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.Raewyn
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Buffbot with MotA and 50 ench and dex goes well over 300.