About War Euro servers

[Hawkwind]

If the servers and support are really going to be based in Ireland then UK servers may suceed. If the servers stay in Paris then it will be US for me. Fed up with Opentranshit issues.

 

[Gahn]

Manpower - Employers - GOA Jobs

have a look there, they are looking For Data Centre Supervisors...

so I think im right.

No dude, it doesn't say anything bar that they learnt the lesson: people doesn't change nation for a rent job.
Hence why they hiring in Ireland, data center supervisors can quite work from remote, they don't need to be on site.

 

[Bleeker]

lets hope the release wont get pushed forward any further so we can see for ourself how it will be, cant wait actually since wow is starting to get really really boring (just playing to pass time now tbh).

and i will play where NFD is playing and if it is US, EU or on the bloody moon then so be it

 

[knighthood]

play guildwars for now , sure its full of complete wankers and kids because mummy and daddy buy them it for a pressie cos theres no subs, and the pvp sucks ass compared to daoc..

but tis pretty ^^

and u can prolly pick up the original for like 8quid now

ill even give u a free ale and a ricecake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[Mirt]

"and the pvp sucks ass compared to daoc.."

GvG is pretty cool tbh, as is TA.

 

[Ctuchik]

Sounds like bullshit, if that were true they would of cut the deal during DAoC, can't see that ever happening regardless of how pisspoor GOA might be this time around.

why should they have cut the deal with DaoC? it didnt have that in the contract so they couldn't. now they do, so they will if things turn shit again.
and trust me, they will, EA will see to that as i'm quite sure they dont want any more bad publicity because of GOA.

and here's where i'm gonna keep saying "i told you so" to all the nonbelievers

i said months and months ago after their first statement on the support issue that GOA would be forced to have the same support standard as Mythic will. time and time again i said that. every GOA hater said no they wont, well they are, you even have it in writing (again) now.

despite what Mythic may have written in their grab bags about being happy with how GOA have ran the DaoC servers its pretty obvious that they had much to wish for looking at the current state of things. they just couldn't say it out loud for obvious reasons.

so they added this in the new contract just to make sure this shit wont happen again, i mean they wouldn't NEED to do this if they WERE happy about how DAoC went.

so it all comes down to if you trust Mythic or not when its THEM thats saying this, not GOA.


and about the patching, IF the US servers will get the patches before europe it more then likely wont be more then max a day due to time zone differences (WoW does this and i think US gets the patches 6 hours before EU). and if you think THAT'S an issue ur pretty pathetic (not aimed at anyone in particular but everyone in general).


and STILL not aimed at anyone in particular.


i'm 99.9% confident we wont get a DAoC revival when it comes to support in general or patching. but most of you ppl are so hellbent on not believing anything theres no hope to ever make you see it.

and no, i'm no huge fan of GOA either after what they did to Dyvet but atleast i'm clear minded enough to see the bigger picture without reading the devil into every statement they make as some ppl here seem to do.

all we have atm is what both Myhic and GOA have stated. and you are fully free to not believe that. but dont fucking try to make it look like its FACT that they wont have the same support as Mythic. the only facts we have NOW is that they will. when anyone have valid links from supported websites (from a GOA or Mythic rep) that state that GOA will make a new DAoC shit job in WAR, feel free to post it and i might change my mind about things. but untill that day comes, you are just spouting bullshit without anything to back up the claims.

and to the ppl that actually discuss the issue without making shit up to make GOA look worse then they do.....

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

When Requiel manages to get his hands on a Warhammer GM account you can as well start playing on a European server for the higher difficulty:

He will spawn additional mobs for you if you zerg his zerging MSN buddies.

No offense Ctuchik, but as long as people who abused their powers like he did are a community manager and as long as the funny GoA dude from the GC 2007 video simply lies about the DAoC population you have the right to expect a shittier service.

The only thing you can hope for are servers located in UK/Ireland and a well educated GM team with reasonable policies.

 

[Zede]

why should they have cut the deal with DaoC? it didnt have that in the contract so they couldn't. now they do, so they will if things turn shit again.
and trust me, they will, EA will see to that as i'm quite sure they dont want any more bad publicity because of GOA.

and here's where i'm gonna keep saying "i told you so" to all the nonbelievers

i said months and months ago after their first statement on the support issue that GOA would be forced to have the same support standard as Mythic will. time and time again i said that. every GOA hater said no they wont, well they are, you even have it in writing (again) now.

despite what Mythic may have written in their grab bags about being happy with how GOA have ran the DaoC servers its pretty obvious that they had much to wish for looking at the current state of things. they just couldn't say it out loud for obvious reasons.

so they added this in the new contract just to make sure this shit wont happen again, i mean they wouldn't NEED to do this if they WERE happy about how DAoC went.

so it all comes down to if you trust Mythic or not when its THEM thats saying this, not GOA.


and about the patching, IF the US servers will get the patches before europe it more then likely wont be more then max a day due to time zone differences (WoW does this and i think US gets the patches 6 hours before EU). and if you think THAT'S an issue ur pretty pathetic (not aimed at anyone in particular but everyone in general).


and STILL not aimed at anyone in particular.


i'm 99.9% confident we wont get a DAoC revival when it comes to support in general or patching. but most of you ppl are so hellbent on not believing anything theres no hope to ever make you see it.

and no, i'm no huge fan of GOA either after what they did to Dyvet but atleast i'm clear minded enough to see the bigger picture without reading the devil into every statement they make as some ppl here seem to do.

all we have atm is what both Myhic and GOA have stated. and you are fully free to not believe that. but dont fucking try to make it look like its FACT that they wont have the same support as Mythic. the only facts we have NOW is that they will. when anyone have valid links from supported websites (from a GOA or Mythic rep) that state that GOA will make a new DAoC shit job in WAR, feel free to post it and i might change my mind about things. but untill that day comes, you are just spouting bullshit without anything to back up the claims.

and to the ppl that actually discuss the issue without making shit up to make GOA look worse then they do.....

I agree. Lets say WAR get after 1 year, about 2 million subs. Just 2% interest in daoc would suffice

 

[Gahn]

When Requiel manages to get his hands on a Warhammer GM account you can as well start playing on a European server for the higher difficulty:

He will spawn additional mobs for you if you zerg his zerging MSN buddies.

No offense Ctuchik, but as long as people who abused their powers like he did are a community manager and as long as the funny GoA dude from the GC 2007 video simply lies about the DAoC population you have the right to expect a shittier service.

The only thing you can hope for are servers located in UK/Ireland and a well educated GM team with reasonable policies.

Damn i actually agree with Manisch

 

[Soulja_IA_]

Damn i actually agree with Manisch

Dam even I will have to agree with Manisch on this (Must book appointment with doctor)

Soulja

 

[Downanael]

When Requiel manages to get his hands on a Warhammer GM account you can as well start playing on a European server for the higher difficulty:

He will spawn additional mobs for you if you zerg his zerging MSN buddies.

When this happened? sounds intresting

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

When this happened? sounds intresting

Imagine a Druid running with 7 or more buddies, adding on all fights, regardless of people and numbers involved. One can say, it's a free for all, red is dead and so on, I've really nothing to say against it, but fact is, he and his guild were notorious zergers.

Imagine the same Druid running around solo, getting killed by Albs and Mids while Hibs watch at the very same place he used to add. One can say, it's a free for all, players decide who to attack and who not, I've really nothing to say against it, fact is, the people took the opportunity and did revenge and fact is that people would have left him alone if he wouldn't be so daft to try to destroy other people fights when he is out solo.

It was a common code in almost all DAoC fight's I've had to kill the party who came into a fight last, with the previous parties continuing the fight after or walking of to meet again! Unless it was some uncontrolable mass RvR event or siege/relic stuff.

Now, the Druid is happy if he can kill some with 7 or more but he is not happy when he gets killed by superior numbers. In the second case the Druid contacts a GoA GM from his MSN list and he reports that people are doing duelling circles at the Crauchon bridge. That said GM appears at the place and spawns guards who even attack Hib players who are just passing by.

Imagine the Druid's name is "Donkeh AddingOnEverything" and the Druid's guild name is "Daesavio".

Imagine the GM's name is Requiel and imagine Donkeh aka Awarkle stated on FH that it was him who called for a GM, that he has Requiel on MSN and that he hopes to chat him up again in the upcoming Warhammer times.

Now imagine German GMs banning people who were destryoing fights on purpose like the Scout on one of the German clusters a few weeks ago.

Have an English GM as comparison who doesn't force players to make reports the official way but sucks up to his MSN buddies who are just hypocrites who enjoy running as 8 ganking everybody on sight and cry for a GM when they are on the receiving end for once. Have an English GM who does that when the Dyvet cluster is at stake but with a somehow working solo players community. Have an English GM being presented with the view of the community on the accident just to read some "you stood in a circle, took rounds and had rezzers" while most players there just let people start and finish their 1 vs 1 and attacked whoever they wished.

Problem with Requiel is that he never admitted any of his numerous mistakes, never listened to the community and never respected all possible playstyles. He believed in the RvR-type of play only.

Just as he left the GM position for DAoC, the English "team" did some 180° turn in some policies.

At a serious company with some GM monitoring Requiel would have been sacked a long time ago, at GoA he got a promotion.

As good as direct contact with players via MSN can be, a MMORPG like DAoC is a paid service, GMs are supposed to be professionals and every player has to have the same damn right for the same level of service and the same right of respect for the playstyle as long as it's not some emote spamming, corpse stomping idiot. No one was gaining sick amounts of plats or realm points for going to an area with like minded people who prefered a good solo fight over something else.

From the various games I've played I can say that each game has good and bad GMs, but for English speaking European Warhammer fans I can only hope that a bad GM like Requiel is not in charge of teaching and supervising a new team.

I think what added to the concealment of the shitty service provided by GoA was sometimes the moderation on FH of even level headed discussions about GM actions. Luckily that stopped some time ago when even the DAoC playing mods here noticed that something is not like it's supposed to be.

Often it's best to let the players deal with in-game situations as long as no cheating or abuse is involved, some unreasonable protectionism is in my opinion bad for a game.

Requiel had the guts to use the term "anti-social" and that he wanted to prevent further anti-social behaviour by spawning the guards, think he crossed a line there. Instead of warning/suspending the Hibernian players who maybe abused Donkeh in chat (which is surely wrong) he just kicked a still living community on a dying server in the face.

I was most of the time quite anti-social when facing Donkeh and his mates.

*shakes head*

Waits for someone to turn up and to say how everything will be different with Warhammer, like EA or GoA will care when a couple of dozen out of most likely millions players leave due to a bad service.

Assuming the game will have a long life time, the return of investment will be there and most will be happy.

For Dyvet it made a big difference, DAoC was close to its end already and Dyvet itself in a bad shape.

 

[Mirt]

If that was true it'd be a pretty serious allegation, but given who the poster is I'm not sure I believe it...

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

I was most of the time quite anti-social when facing Donkeh and his mates.

I ate a sentence there - "I logged." needs to be added.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

If that was true it'd be a pretty serious allegation, but given who the poster is I'm not sure I believe it...

Who am I then please?

What's not true?

Read it yourself:

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/rvr...loing-no-longer-allowed-then-im-out-here.html

I played solo long enough to know 100% for sure that Awarkle wouldn't have contacted Requiel via MSN if he would be able to kill the people at Crauchon with his group. Often he just run over the people there several times and laughed his ass of with his mates. Once he couldn't, he cried for help. He knew that Requiel favors his playstyle. What happened then is well documented as there were players to witness it.

Now you can argue about it being organized dueling and EVEN if you come to the questionable conclusion, as most never bothered to use 3rd party tools to meet at a quiter zone, why was this a perfectly way of playing on the German servers, Mythic servers but not on Dyvet?

Why was it on Dyvet something that led to sanctions?

Awarkle states in the thread that he reported duelling because some others got flamed, well fair enough, but he should have had reported verbal abuse and not cover the whole operation with some hypocrite bullshit up once he gets killed and can't get his way.

Requiel said he has shut down RP farming which is frankly bullshit too, most of the players there would have been better off joining a group or a zerg for RPs, how much good RPs do you get when you look for good fights and die 10 times in a row against better opponents?

I was around Crauchon with my Infiltrator more time than Requiel spend logged in game prolly in all his years as a DAoC GM. When I run there stealthed and decide when and who to attack, decide not to attack people engaged and people not on 100% health then it has nothing to do with RP farming.

He never bothered to understand that people who get ganked all the time log and often one realm there or elsewhere had the superior numbers and made the other log, eventually people realized that and stopped doing so.

Anyway, read it yourself. At least I am informed.

 

[Downanael]

Who am I then please?

What's not true?

Read it yourself:

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/rvr...loing-no-longer-allowed-then-im-out-here.html

Hmm,this certainly looks more than bit fishy, atleast now it's clear why all the E&E's defend GOA(Arwakle was one,right?)

 

[Raven]

When the E&E system was introduced to help cover the fact GOA didn't put enough resources into the game (no GMs at work at weekends, very few GMs around in the week etc) it worked well, in the end it was a tool for griefers to get requiel's help in griefing and was given out to his MSN buddies.

On the German cluster, solo duel rings are supported by the GMs because they like to see a vibrant varied PvP scene, you hear stories of GMs turning up and talking to people there, having a laugh with them. Its clearly not company policy to discourage it. Requiel, because of his play style didn't like it so tried to shut it down, with a little help from his MSN buddies.

Requiel tried to force his play style on the server when he should have let it grow, for those that knew his in game toon (there is no need to tell anyone) they could see he wasn't really into PvP, he was a role player (I don't mean that as a derogatory term)

I have said before i used to have a lot of respect for him, when he first appeared he did a good job given the resources at hand but in the end he just got on a power trip and ruined the game for people who had no interest in zerging/sieging/griefing. 50% of dyvet's failure is with him and 50% with the players, he should have been talked to by his superiors, it went to far.

You just need to look at his history.

Letting well known and proven griefers operate (that druid and co, forget their names) who cleared guild vaults "hacked" accounts etc.

Allowed known radar users to play, giving them a pointless two week ban when it all came out.

Allowed Hib keeps to be lowered to level 1 and then ALbs to capture it, resulting in relics changing hands, when it happened to Albion he suspended accounts.

Spawned mobs on players at the request of friends via MSN, who couldn't kill them on their own.

Ignored the signs the server was on its knees "seasonal dip" "we wont let it get to an unsustainable level" etc etc

Lied to the community for nearly a year saying that GOA were working on various solutions.

When its decided that there are no solutions, hides the fact to keep a few more subscriptions running.

When the shit really does hit the fan, fucks off to Warhammer and leaves the mess to some other poor sod, refusing to discuss any of it with anyone.

The lad has no backbone.

Lessons learned though, time to move on.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Hmm,this certainly looks more than bit fishy, atleast now it's clear why all the E&E's defend GOA(Arwakle was one,right?)

I for one, and I know most of the others, didnt really defend GOA so much as try to sit in the middle and play devils advocate. We saw both sides of the coin, the players frustrations but also GOAs lack of access to souce code, supposed lack of staff and other issues that plagued both sides.

Truth be known my tide turned after the Pryd DB crash and the piss poor way it was handled by GOA. Since that happened I havnt really held my tongue about my feelings towards them, but always try and see all the angles.

Like everyone, we were fed the same bullshit on the GOA forums. We may have got the news a few days earlier, but all the same we got all the promises you did, and in many cases nagged more too. Sadly I cant show you evidence (no access any more since leaving), but all the E&E put both our own and your views to GOA via those boards, and got pretty much the same, its just we were foolishly optimistic.

In the case about arwakle, you might want to read a little deeper, it wasnt the dueling being objected to, it was the barrage of abuse that duelers gave out when killed by an FG while dueling in a major RvR area. On the US servers you can /appeal this kind of thing and it gets dealt with harshly, immediately with the individual, but on Dyvet the best policy is to just blanket ban and have done with it.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Awarkle states in the thread that he reported duelling because some others got flamed, well fair enough, but he should have had reported verbal abuse and not cover the whole operation with some hypocrite bullshit up once he gets killed and can't get his way.

Couldnt agree more.

Requiel said he has shut down RP farming which is frankly bullshit too, most of the players there would have been better off joining a group or a zerg for RPs, how much good RPs do you get when you look for good fights and die 10 times in a row against better opponents?

Heres where my opinion differs. Its one thing to organise duels, but as buffbots now earn RPs for ressing and healing in RvR combat, under normal conditions they would not be out in open field combat, and would not be getting rewards for what they did in the dueling circle, so this in fact is RP farming for bots. Then you have people who pick and choose their fights, Mr HighRR and Mr Warlock picking out the weaklings certainly could also consitute farming instead of picking fair fights. Then you also have people who use the opportunity to power level alts by taking advantage too, in fact there no end to how this can be abused.

I was around Crauchon with my Infiltrator more time than Requiel spend logged in game prolly in all his years as a DAoC GM. When I run there stealthed and decide when and who to attack, decide not to attack people engaged and people not on 100% health then it has nothing to do with RP farming.

Thats playing your class as intended, and your opponent shouldnt be aware of your presence and therefore theres the advantage, in a duel we all know whats coming.

He never bothered to understand that people who get ganked all the time log and often one realm there or elsewhere had the superior numbers and made the other log, eventually people realized that and stopped doing so.

Anyway, read it yourself. At least I am informed.

Both sides of the coin bud, you have to see where if something like this could be abused. I know quite a few ppl banned for RP farming (RR12 valk for example), or others flamed to shit and back on here and especially in game for ganking so called duelers. RvR zones are designed for mass fights, red its dead and all 3 realms enemies, not for individuals to play on their own, theres plenty of FPS out there just for that.

 

[Ctuchik]

No offense Ctuchik, but as long as people who abused their powers like he did are a community manager and as long as the funny GoA dude from the GC 2007 video simply lies about the DAoC population you have the right to expect a shittier service.

ofc you have the right to expect it. but theres TO MANY ppl that CLAIM it will. and to many ppl that acts like they have FACTS that it will be as bad as in DAoC. the only facts we have is what both Mythic and GOA have said. and again, feel free not to believe it all you want. but noone should try to make it sound like they have any facts that says otherwise like they have been.

and req never spawned anything coz anyone zerged his "MSN buddies" he spawned a load of bluecon mobs on a RP farming fightclub outside beno (or there abouts). yes the ppl that reported them that made req spawn them tried to reak it up and got zerged while their so called realm mates were cursing them to bits for interveaning. but it had nothing to do with any "MSN buddies".

 

[Ctuchik]

. 50% of dyvet's failure is with him and 50% with the players, he should have been talked to by his superiors, it went to far.

and yet 99% of the ppl give him 100% of the blame, isnt that amusing?

 

[Jupiter]

Jaysus, i find myself in agreement with MANISCH and Raven, 2 bloody good posts.......... and Ctuchik what are u on man? If you buy an Audi from a car dealer and i get lots of trouble with it and a shit service would i go back to them to buy another car, even if they changed their dealership, like fuck would i.

 

[Ctuchik]

and Ctuchik what are u on man? If you buy an Audi from a car dealer and i get lots of trouble with it and a shit service would i go back to them to buy another car, even if they changed their dealership, like fuck would i.

depends if the dealership has improved or not. and right now noone fucking knows. thats what i'm saying.

ppl here claiming they KNOW GOA havent improved in WAR, but they dont have a fucking clue about it because they can't prove it yet.


all they have is both Mythic's and GOA's statement that things WILL be alot better (and even someone from Mythic saying they they are FORCED to improve if they want to keep the lisence(sp?) for WAR)

and i'l say it AGAIN. ppl are more then welcome not to believe GOA or Mythic on this. but they also shouldn't go around acting like they KNOW they wont improve just because they havent in DAoC (that is STILL on a completely seperate contract that Mythic can't do anything about).

from their point of view its all wishful thinking. nothing more, nothing less.

come back when WAR has been released for a year or two. THEN ppl can claim that GOA have or have not improved.

right now ppl are shooting the inside of a barn that isnt even there yet.

 

[Soulja_IA_]

depends if the dealership has improved or not. and right now noone fucking knows. thats what i'm saying.

ppl here claiming they KNOW GOA havent improved in WAR, but they dont have a fucking clue about it because they can't prove it yet.


all they have is both Mythic's and GOA's statement that things WILL be alot better (and even someone from Mythic saying they they are FORCED to improve if they want to keep the lisence(sp?) for WAR)

and i'l say it AGAIN. ppl are more then welcome not to believe GOA or Mythic on this. but they also shouldn't go around acting like they KNOW they wont improve just because they havent in DAoC (that is STILL on a completely seperate contract that Mythic can't do anything about).

from their point of view its all wishful thinking. nothing more, nothing less.

come back when WAR has been released for a year or two. THEN ppl can claim that GOA have or have not improved.

right now ppl are shooting the inside of a barn that isnt even there yet.

Requiel was on Daoc and bailed when it went tits up and now he on War for Goa rofl think you see where Goa's problem lies here putting someone who fucked up Dyvet in charge of him to fuck up War.

Lot people got mistrust with Requiel with his lies and favourites that he had in Daoc so you can probably feel people feeling slightly put off with Goa giving him the War project.

Soulja

 

[Downanael]

ppl here claiming they KNOW GOA havent improved in WAR, but they dont have a fucking clue about it because they can't prove it yet.

Do GOA deserve our faith that they will improve? abso-fucking-not. They screwed up big time and now people have negative view on them,that's totally their fault.

 

[Raven]

and req never spawned anything coz anyone zerged his "MSN buddies" he spawned a load of bluecon mobs on a RP farming fightclub outside beno (or there abouts). yes the ppl that reported them that made req spawn them tried to reak it up and got zerged while their so called realm mates were cursing them to bits for interveaning. but it had nothing to do with any "MSN buddies".

Actually, it was extremely high purple con border keep guards, if you read through the thread and the linked threads you will see it was because of his MSN buddies whining that they couldn't steamroll the soloers on their own.

 

[Raven]

ofc you have the right to expect it. but theres TO MANY ppl that CLAIM it will. and to many ppl that acts like they have FACTS that it will be as bad as in DAoC. the only facts we have is what both Mythic and GOA have said. and again, feel free not to believe it all you want. but noone should try to make it sound like they have any facts that says otherwise like they have been.

Two identical looking restaurants next door to each other, you go into one, the foods cold and the staff piss on your table when you complain and tell you to fuck off. Would you go back there to give them another chance or choose the other restaurant?

 

[scorge]

Requiel was on Daoc and bailed when it went tits up and now he on War for Goa rofl think you see where Goa's problem lies here putting someone who fucked up Dyvet in charge of him to fuck up War.

Requiel got the job as WAR community manager as he had prior experience working with Games workshop.

I agree though that his leaving, did make things look a bit fishy and "rats sinking boat"

 

[scorge]

Two identical looking restaurants next door to each other, you go into one, the foods cold and the staff piss on your table when you complain and tell you to fuck off. Would you go back there to give them another chance or choose the other restaurant?

I would take my ex there sounds just like her kind of place, do you have the address?

 

[Azathrim]

Chutnik was always a Requiel/GoA fanboy. It's his own mistake to buy something from GoA again, so who cares. I just guess he like taking it from behind and apparently Requiel is ready to do just that again, just this time in WAR.

Anyways... who was Requiel and the rest ofthose GM's in game?
(Feel free to PM me)