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Yadeniel

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censi said:
yep. Im sure lots of assasins will follow suite and quit with you. Hard mode and fotm dont mix.

We still can camp bridges in NF, dont see it as hard mode. Just dont see it fun. And if that is the roll of assassins i just dont like it and quit :)

Tbh, i was expecting NF to be more harder and fun for assassins, but the damn St npc are too powerfull, and all ppl says it, some archers too :eek7:
Why are they gonna say it when that npc let em be in the wall shooting like the chickens usually archers are? :)


And what the fuckin hell u know about hard mode when u dont go out of ligen without ur st zerg noobie?

The day u solo/duo u can compare urself to me, till that day, no respect zergling :)


Hope we meet in NF, both solo (hard for u :S )
 

Yadeniel

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"account is the inactive till NF
->currently conquering europe<-

Palan TehPirate RR7lx
Ranjur of
< Post Mortem >"

:worthy:

Nice example on how there will be 3archers per realm like u say censi, and uh? this m8 is from ur guild :flame:

"account is the inactive till NF"=acc inactive till i get god mode


nice1 :worthy:
 

Yadeniel

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Censimilia 2,932,139 4,796 50 Post Mortem Lurikeen --> almost 5k week
Palan TehPirate 2,430,207 11,315 50 Post Mortem Celt --> 11krps week

We will see it in NF :)

Maybe the normal mode is too hard for u? :eek7:
 

-Palan-

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lol yad, i've been playing solo most of my time i played my ranger thru see hidden and every over bitchery that mythic could think of for us.

i alyway play a month or 2, then take a break for a month or 3 as all that know me would tell u. as i just don't have the time to play atm i didn't bother paying my subs again for like 5hours a week that i could play.

now about the mos5, realy don't see why anyone would get that if he ain't rr10ish, i for one will get mos4 at max if not only mos3 so i can put my points on RAs that are usefull for dmg output and not only detecting the stealthzerg.

and i saw u with ur other solo albs at amg quite a few times aswell when i TSed myway past the 10+ alb or mid stealthers camping there.


still funny how an overpowered zergling can bitch around this much on a class that had it hard ever since release, now u gotta actualy work for ur RPs or just get an even bigger zerg
 

-Palan-

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and lmao at our lwrp.

my acc is down since 1month nearly again now, the RPs u see there is from the last days it was still up and as i said befor i have no time to play atm.

same goes for censi, whos been playing around with over stuff aswell. funneh how u small minded gimp have to pull in the lwrps of inactive chars and couldn't have figured it out on his own :eek7:
 

censi

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yadenial your a funny guy.

but even in your limited capacity for intelligent conversation I dont see you denying that because your bottom of the food pile your not gonna enjoy the game.

which is basically why we love you so much, cuz your just the latest new kid on the block fotm. Comes in thinks he rocks but is playing the class which is the superior stealther. The moment your class is not superior in anyway (in fact pre-emptive to the patch) you screem like a bitch and flee to the next game in search of something overpowered.
 

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Yadeniel said:
We still can camp bridges in NF, dont see it as hard mode. Just dont see it fun. And if that is the roll of assassins i just dont like it and quit

Tbh, i was expecting NF to be more harder and fun for assassins, but the damn St npc are too powerfull, and all ppl says it, some archers too :eek7:
Why are they gonna say it when that npc let em be in the wall shooting like the chickens usually archers are? :)

What you are complaining about is that you won't be able to pwn near the keeps where most people are. What you say is that you can't have fun unless you can stay invisible close to everyone else and chose when to attack at all times.

THAT is a part of what was overpowered. An archer can now do it when camo is up, but like you said yourself, no archer is going to wait after each kill for camo to refresh. You will now be forced to move around a bit more, not just hang around close to the zerg. You are ok with hanging around at MG's, but not bridges? You think bridges are easy, but so boring that they will make you quit? MG's aren't that different to bridges. :eek7:

It looks to me that you won't have a central point where you can stand and get fed easy rps anymore, thus you'll quit. Easy mode has left the building! :p
 

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The moment your class is not superior in anyway (in fact pre-emptive to the patch) you screem like a bitch and flee to the next game in search of something overpowered.

personally i want a game with _good_ assasin's roleplay. daoc used to be one - in a short period between 1.50 (when i dinged 50) and 1.54-1.56 (when influx of stealthers became noticeable and we lost IP). what next?....dunno. but currently playing assasin in pen-and-paper rpg (just came from one :) ) and beating Thief game serie another time at hard difficulty setting is more appealing to me..

Easy mode has left the building!

not easy rps.

stealth.

stealth is a key ability of assasin. and now our stealth isn't best one. another nail in coffin. and a big one....
 

enigma

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Haldar said:
personally i want a game with _good_ assasin's roleplay. daoc used to be one - in a short period between 1.50 (when i dinged 50) and 1.54-1.56 (when influx of stealthers became noticeable and we lost IP). what next?....dunno. but currently playing assasin in pen-and-paper rpg (just came from one :) ) and beating Thief game serie another time at hard difficulty setting is more appealing to me..

The assassin roleplay might have been good, but it was on the expense of the other classes that regularly HAD to fight them.

not easy rps.

stealth.

stealth is a key ability of assasin. and now our stealth isn't best one. another nail in coffin. and a big one....

Stealth for assassins as a whole isn't gone just because you aren't the one who decides when to initiate a fight with archers. Mythic most likely want you to try to fight other classes but archers too, which have been easy up untill now.

And this is not the last patch we'll see, things will change in one way or the other again.

Perhaps Mythics vision of how they want the game might not coincide with what stealthers in daoc have become used to?
 

Yadeniel

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To the rangers:
I dotn camp amg, but if u say it... . Anyways i dont see the problem on it, i always go to mmg and 90%time is camped, just jump it noob :) U have st lore, camouflage, some tools to do it. I always use SL in mmg :)

Maybe i dont have lwrp cos i was playing in gorre all the time or lvling gsv? :D


Enigma:

No, i said i usually camp mmg, mmg-mtk, AND IM TIRED TO CAMP, that is why i complain, COS I WANT SIEGE ACTION.

And archer can do it with and without camo in NF.

Bridge isnt a central point? lol

St for assassins is almost gone just cos damn npc guards negate all of it, and rangers will discover u when u trying to ggank that mage etc.. and some of em are so brave that shoot u and run instead of fight :)
 

Yadeniel

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That i cant understand is..

why the archers have the best range, excellent dmg, still good at melee, and the best st now? so they evade the only class that can kill em.

And assassins dont have any range, just good melee, and regular st in nf...
assassins need the st so they can evade the range and go in melee, and cos we are assassins, the master in the art of hide and assassinate. Not a fuckin archer who only know hide in fuckin trees :) and they already have camu.

They dont need the best st to critshot a target from 2000+range, but we need the st to perform PA :) cos we have to take risk when we attack, not like archers :)
 

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why the archers have the best range, excellent dmg, still good at melee, and the best st now? so they evade the only class that can kill em.

so we have the best range soon, now i ask u, what we archers were supposed to kill were casters and pick out stuff from fgs, assassins never were ment to be our most encountered enemy afaik. now casters had been given alot of things to defend demselfs against us, starting with BT, over nearsight, pets, and hell of a cast time wich we archers lately didn't have much to throw up against.

now let me have a look at what u've been facing with archers befor, archers mostly had to rely on IP beeing up vs an assassin, the assassin could choose when to attack the archer as he could see him from miles and could wait on the perfect timing. we had TS (wich will be gone now) another 10RA to be able to see other stealthers, i found it most usefull to make myself a way past milegates or for shooting nice screenies.

u had dragonfang for ages, so to counter that we needed another expensive RA, purge.

are u starting to see where i'm going here?
mythic did their best to make our only prey(?) immune to us by various changes, and changing us so that for when ever we attack or get attacked we need to use some funky expensive fookin30minRA just to get added on after using it wich ends us in druim ligen :eek7:

and u still whine cuz u actualy have to think about how to kill something now, because of 1(!!!!!!!!!!!) new RA??? u don't even know how it is to play hardmode, so stfu :flame:
 

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Yadeniel said:
To the rangers:
Maybe i dont have lwrp cos i was playing in gorre all the time or lvling gsv? :D

good that u didn't understand a word of what i said.........................

that was excactly my point about OUR lwrp, noob :twak:
 

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Yadeniel said:
That i cant understand is..

why the archers have the best range, excellent dmg, still good at melee, and the best st now? so they evade the only class that can kill em.

And assassins dont have any range, just good melee, and regular st in nf...
assassins need the st so they can evade the range and go in melee, and cos we are assassins, the master in the art of hide and assassinate. Not a fuckin archer who only know hide in fuckin trees :) and they already have camu.

They dont need the best st to critshot a target from 2000+range, but we need the st to perform PA :) cos we have to take risk when we attack, not like archers :)

an assasins life HAVE 2 BE HARD, this easy life atm will end but they still will have an equal easy life in NF (Bridges, OF, border and any other keeps). Assasin Classes shouldnt be playable by 10-12 year old kids which get payed their accounts by their parents. An assasin should- and have 2 be an class which is HARD 2 play. But there arent much alb/mid/hib assasins out there wich play the class because they like their class, most ppl play an Assasin because they want be "UBER" and they want gank as much ppl as they can in the shortest possible time. With NF this trend changed 2 "Archers" mostly Scouts, ppl see an new FOTM COOL class and they roll it.
All stealther classes should get an TOTALY NERF that just this ppl will be left which realy want play their chars.
 

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Yadeniel said:
Enigma:

No, i said i usually camp mmg, mmg-mtk, AND IM TIRED TO CAMP, that is why i complain, COS I WANT SIEGE ACTION.

Yes, you want to be able to decide when people should be able to see you at all times, even in zergs which is what siege action is. That is obviously not what Mythic wants you to be able to do because it makes the keeps harder to defend than to attack. That was one of the MAIN points that NF was going to fix.

And archer can do it with and without camo in NF.

Bridge isnt a central point? lol

St for assassins is almost gone just cos damn npc guards negate all of it, and rangers will discover u when u trying to ggank that mage etc.. and some of em are so brave that shoot u and run instead of fight

No. An archer cannot do it any more than an assassin can unless he's using camo.

I'd like to know where I said that a bridge is NOT a central point. Read, comprehend and then post. ;)

The stealth class you seem to try to play doesn't exist. Mythic is trying to make the stealth game more transparent, that doesn't fit with the old playstyle of the assassins.

But guess what, they're not done patching the game.

Yadeniel said:
That i cant understand is..

why the archers have the best range, excellent dmg, still good at melee, and the best st now? so they evade the only class that can kill em.

And assassins dont have any range, just good melee, and regular st in nf...
assassins need the st so they can evade the range and go in melee, and cos we are assassins, the master in the art of hide and assassinate. Not a fuckin archer who only know hide in fuckin trees :) and they already have camu.

They dont need the best st to critshot a target from 2000+range, but we need the st to perform PA cos we have to take risk when we attack, not like archers :)

Archers have best range and good frontloaded damage on critshots and opening shots, but the DPS is very low. Before you respond to that, think THREE times what DPS stands for. If you want more info on archer dps compared to other classes, just say so.

Assassins aren't the only class that can find and kill archers. What other class could effectively find and kill assassins earlier? Other assassins.

Yes, yes, and scouts should be able to scout properly etc etc. Why should you be able to jump archers? You can jump every other class in the game, why archers aswell? The scout/hunter/ranger shouldn't be a blind guy according to their names either. Aha, perhaps how it used to be isn't what it was SUPPOSED to be? To say that a solo archer not in a keep attacking something isn't risking anything is just stupid beyond belief. ;)
 

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assassins need the st so they can evade the range and go in melee

Ofc assasin need that, but think. You want to get close to an archer to attack, he wants you at range to attack.

In the last 2 years in stealth assasin V stealth archer. You either didnt see each other if his camo was up, but you still had detect hidden, yer dont make to much difference there. Or more likely scenario, you see them from around 1000 range, move to them and kill them.

Hmm, as you are all now conceeding, this was somewhat stacked in favour of the assasin. In fact you might say overpowered.

The solution they have implemented in my opinion makes 1v1 encounters between archers and assasins a lot fairer.

Assasin will still be hacking the shit out of archers with superior melee, but you wont be the ones opening the attack (and yes high RR archers with mos5 will be able to put you through the treadmill if they open right).

I do agree though it can spoil certain elements of the game for assasins.

I think we need to wait and see and play NF before we make to many judgements based on gorre.

1 thing I promise, if my class is overpowered V infs, ill admit it.
 

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Yadeniel said:
Enigma:

No, i said i usually camp mmg, mmg-mtk, AND IM TIRED TO CAMP, that is why i complain, COS I WANT SIEGE ACTION.
And archer can do it with and without camo in NF.
Bridge isnt a central point? lol


lol fucking whiner , just play the stupid game :eek:
 

Yadeniel

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-Palan- said:
why the archers have the best range, excellent dmg, still good at melee, and the best st now? so they evade the only class that can kill em.

so we have the best range soon, now i ask u, what we archers were supposed to kill were casters and pick out stuff from fgs, assassins never were ment to be our most encountered enemy afaik. now casters had been given alot of things to defend demselfs against us, starting with BT, over nearsight, pets, and hell of a cast time wich we archers lately didn't have much to throw up against.

now let me have a look at what u've been facing with archers befor, archers mostly had to rely on IP beeing up vs an assassin, the assassin could choose when to attack the archer as he could see him from miles and could wait on the perfect timing. we had TS (wich will be gone now) another 10RA to be able to see other stealthers, i found it most usefull to make myself a way past milegates or for shooting nice screenies.

u had dragonfang for ages, so to counter that we needed another expensive RA, purge.

are u starting to see where i'm going here?
mythic did their best to make our only prey(?) immune to us by various changes, and changing us so that for when ever we attack or get attacked we need to use some funky expensive fookin30minRA just to get added on after using it wich ends us in druim ligen

and u still whine cuz u actualy have to think about how to kill something now, because of 1(!!!!!!!!!!!) new RA??? u don't even know how it is to play hardmode, so stfu :flame:

what the fuck u say ...

Archers do a lot of dmg, too much dmg from range, and u saying u only can kill mages? LOL ofc, cos maybe tanks and other class need more than 2 or 3arrows? wow...


So, all the bullshit u say is sumth like. Hey we need some RAs to kill assassins with only melee, cos i wannabegod, U CHOSE AN ARCHER TO PLAY, AN ARCHER DONT HAVE TO KILL TARGETS ONLY WITH MELEE, AND OFC targets who only have melee as dmg,so u want be the best at range, kill melees with ur archer using only melee, have the best stealth, and u think that is fair...

u saying u only trained purge for DF? LOL tbh.

LOl and u complain about TS, well, dont train it, infils dont train vanish, Sbs dont train shadow run.. :) .

Easymode? ofc ofc.

U know Everquest? I was a beastlord there, the worst class to play in raids, etc, and i played it, COS IT WaS TOO DAMN FUN.
Lvled my infil as mainchar, lvl it was a pain, noone liked the infils in grp, and sometimes u had to heard sumth like "Hey, if u want grp get a grp class" or "I wont inv u, cos u will ding 50 and u will be solo earning rps, when i will have to grp to win some rps" i was like wtf.
Continue lvling my infil when SBs were overpowered and infils were rps cows to em.
Continue lvling my infil when they bugged the CS styles dont breaking BT, and a lto of ppl like me though it was a nerf.
Continue lvling it without know nothing about DF, know sumth about it at 45+.
And continue lvling when some friends i made at low lvls they were 50 a log time i ago i was 50, and when i dinged 50 they already had another 50char, so 2chars 50 instead of one like me :) .

I PLAY FOR FUN STUPID KID, THIS IS A GAME, A GAME IS PLAYED TO HAVE FUN, I DONT NEED WTFPWN PPL TO FEEL BETTER IRL LIKE U. SO STFU FOAD :)
 

Yadeniel

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Matmardigan said:
an assasins life HAVE 2 BE HARD, this easy life atm will end but they still will have an equal easy life in NF (Bridges, OF, border and any other keeps). Assasin Classes shouldnt be playable by 10-12 year old kids which get payed their accounts by their parents. An assasin should- and have 2 be an class which is HARD 2 play. But there arent much alb/mid/hib assasins out there wich play the class because they like their class, most ppl play an Assasin because they want be "UBER" and they want gank as much ppl as they can in the shortest possible time. With NF this trend changed 2 "Archers" mostly Scouts, ppl see an new FOTM COOL class and they roll it.
All stealther classes should get an TOTALY NERF that just this ppl will be left which realy want play their chars.

Yep i hate a bit all the fotm ppl who only increase the number on some class and then they need to overnerfed it. Anyways an assassin dotn have to be hard to play, it must be normal to play, like all class should be.
But mythic dont play the game it seems, like they dont have beta testers too :) so they just nerf the thing the ppl says is overpowered and make em happy for a bit more so they will continue paying the game. IMO.
 

Yadeniel

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enigma said:
Yes, you want to be able to decide when people should be able to see you at all times, even in zergs which is what siege action is. That is obviously not what Mythic wants you to be able to do because it makes the keeps harder to defend than to attack. That was one of the MAIN points that NF was going to fix.

I think all the denfed things, healers guards etc is enough to make a better defense, anyways have u played the last days in gorre, they are all the day sieging Dun crauchon, it had a whole wall destroyed, lost the towers and still there, perma siege of some days and still didnt take it :)


enigma said:
No. An archer cannot do it any more than an assassin can unless he's using camo.

I'd like to know where I said that a bridge is NOT a central point. Read, comprehend and then post. ;)

The stealth class you seem to try to play doesn't exist. Mythic is trying to make the stealth game more transparent, that doesn't fit with the old playstyle of the assassins.

MoS must negate the target mos in some range, at least that was the idea i have of it, but isnt working on test server. My infils with mos5 should negate a Mos5 archer and have advantage of 150range due to detect hidden, but the archers see my infil..

I read FAST, and post FAST cos i dont want waste too much time here, + my english is usually good, but not perfect and i can miss somethings.

enigma said:
But guess what, they're not done patching the game.



Archers have best range and good frontloaded damage on critshots and opening shots, but the DPS is very low. Before you respond to that, think THREE times what DPS stands for. If you want more info on archer dps compared to other classes, just say so.

Assassins aren't the only class that can find and kill archers. What other class could effectively find and kill assassins earlier? Other assassins.

Yes, yes, and scouts should be able to scout properly etc etc. Why should you be able to jump archers? You can jump every other class in the game, why archers aswell? The scout/hunter/ranger shouldn't be a blind guy according to their names either. Aha, perhaps how it used to be isn't what it was SUPPOSED to be? To say that a solo archer not in a keep attacking something isn't risking anything is just stupid beyond belief. ;)

DPs is too low? wtf.. they hit like a truck, and every 2seconds normal shots i u have decent gear. And i dont have to think it, cos i parsed some DPS in Everquest etc..

U saying assassins werent the only class able to find archers and kill em, and u answer assassins... hmm?

Why they should be inmune to a class main line spec? Why they need the best st if they depend on ranger, where u dont need the best st use bow as THE ARCHERS THEY ARE, ARCHERS.

Anyways they will fall for their own weight. Just wait a see the amount of fotm scouts, at USA was funny, just time, and when the nerf bat hits, it hits too strong.
 

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censi said:
Ofc assasin need that, but think. You want to get close to an archer to attack, he wants you at range to attack.

In the last 2 years in stealth assasin V stealth archer. You either didnt see each other if his camo was up, but you still had detect hidden, yer dont make to much difference there. Or more likely scenario, you see them from around 1000 range, move to them and kill them.

Hmm, as you are all now conceeding, this was somewhat stacked in favour of the assasin. In fact you might say overpowered.

The solution they have implemented in my opinion makes 1v1 encounters between archers and assasins a lot fairer.

Assasin will still be hacking the shit out of archers with superior melee, but you wont be the ones opening the attack (and yes high RR archers with mos5 will be able to put you through the treadmill if they open right).

I do agree though it can spoil certain elements of the game for assasins.

I think we need to wait and see and play NF before we make to many judgements based on gorre.

1 thing I promise, if my class is overpowered V infs, ill admit it.

I dont want to go close to an archer to attack, i just dont want to get discover by em everytime im trying to "assassinate".

Detect hidden dont work or is useless, without SH all the archers were able to through me in st like another assassin.

Yes, SH is overpowered, but IP on archers also, remove SH and IP from archers, it would be a fair trade. And archers have zephyr also :) ml9 soj, and better defense, so they arent rps cows :/ In a st fight u always kill the assassins first, cos u know they wont use IP :D

The new st RA will be fair if archers dont have zephyr, IP... :/ And NF isnt sts vs sts thw whole day like now in emain, archers now can kill a lot more of targets. Like assassins should be able too :/ . Anyways think about this, archers are archers, master on bows and at range etc, they dont have to be enough good to outmelee a melee class :/ . Then longbowmens of the past (scouts) wear a melee wpn to deceive the enemy when they were caught in combat, cos the enemy in the past cut the enemys fingers when they known it was a bowman.

At least u will admit it :) , i agree with u, im waiting NF so i can really see what happens, and i heard gorre had a st bug, but dunno exactly what, maybe is sumth near the st range etc. USA assassins run with mos3 or so and they dont complain about archers i think :/ so maybe gorre is a bit bugged.

WHo knows, we will see it in NF.
 

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Yadeniel said:
what the fuck u say ...

Archers do a lot of dmg, too much dmg from range, and u saying u only can kill mages? LOL ofc, cos maybe tanks and other class need more than 2 or 3arrows? wow...

uhm archers cant kill tanks, atleast not shield tanks in an one on one (or atleast I dont think they can). Engage up and the tank has a 95% (or is it even higher?) blockrate.
archers are strong, but their dps with bow isnt as high as that of casters nor of tanks and its still interuptable (not much use for an assassin though).

and I seriously doubt if anyone is having fun if they can bother making 5 "whining" posts in the same thread directly after eachother on primetime playing time. Even if its to kill port time, there has to be something more fun to do than whine about how archers will be gods and your assassin will suck.
Btw do you actually think that the "love" mentioned at the start will have any effect on you as infil?
 

-Palan-

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lol yad, u should rly start to read and understand what we're talkin about.

have u ever played an archer properly on a live server? guess not, cuz if u had u would know how hard it is to kill something as an archer.

casters: near sight, pets(as a SM with their bloody intercept pets+brittle guards its impossible to kill, necro with theire damn pet are just as hard), cast at freakin lightspeed. oh and sorcs lifetap wich does twice the dmg a normal arrow would do and the caster is healed up again after 1or2of em.

tanks: shield(so u get 1normal shot of if u don't kite em, but kiting a tank ain't workin rly), 2500HPs+atleast, IP, other nice stuff and the fact that u hardly find one solo doesn't add to the chance of killing one.

main healers wich try to solo are ok if they don't have insta this and that up.

stealthers, well, assassins are easily found, nice targets and can go down easily if done correctly and its a 1on1.mincers, immagine u get the jump on, they either run away or run at u interupt u with DDs, mezz, use FA, zepheyr,DD etc, dead. other archers, are ok if they are solo aswell and depends on who gets teh jump on.

now wich goes for ALL classes: if we shoot something they run out of range, easy as that. no RPs for us, no more camo for us, and every stealther or radar abuser knows where one is.

the advantage(or in some situations i can immagine it ain't that much of an advantage) of assassins is that when they jump something, their target has close to no chance to run.


ur brabbling something about u hate it that theres so many rolling the new fotms while ur infil has been fotm for like the last 2years. u rolled one cuz u heard they are uber some time ago, while censi and other archers like me played our chars as main from beta or such and u cry cuz of this small stealth nerf???

our dps is realy shite, live with it. 300dmg every what?2-4secs? while casters hit u for 600+++ with max speed, if we shoot at 1.5secs we do 100dmg with our bow.
add to that, that most arrows we shoot won't even reach our targets due to them evading/blocking or us missing.

now quit the fookin whining u gimp, get bk to everquest if its that much fun
 

Brack

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- All Enchanter pets will now wear cloaks
- All Enchanter pets will now wear cloaks
- All Enchanter pets will now wear cloaks

!!!! woo :clap:
 

Yadeniel

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Driwen, if u say something interesting i will answer u .

Palan:

I played a scout, i have a scout for BG , and played it a lot in gorre. I know the game and i know the scout.

U think an assassin is god?

U compare ur dmg to mages, we are sts not mages, we all know mages are overpowered now, i have a caby and it is insane how fast he cast and the dmg she do, insane. And i will never do so much dmg like tanks with my infil too, at least the decent tanks. U cant ask to be in same dmg as mages and tanks :/

Kill mages as assassin: The SM intercept our PA too, and stun (i sometimes killed the pet before the mage due to this, and dmg on pet sucks a bit) , etc.. if u dont use ML9 poison.. u can use zephyr in some of em too :p , anyways they will MoC LT u if they can. BDs are just lame, u can gank em with mezz and disease, but the ones who know a bit more than spam LT, use purge, or moc..
If u are too far away they cant face u well and they will die before they NS u..
Lifetap? at least u can get out of range sometimes, hib mages = stun+nuke nuke nuke zzZzZzz

And if they send pets to u, the mages die while the pet is inc, ifnot just run, end chant pot and run till he get bored , With my infil if i get a pet on me while the target in far away i just run, st and use soem tricks to get PA off, u must have something to counter :p U can just st, (when they have pet on u they usually try to be near the pet, dunno why, then u just sprint the short range, zephyr etc.. it is a mage, u can kill it on melee :p).

Well, u think tanks are easy for assassins?
A shield tank will slam u, if u dont have purge be rdy to eat for 500+ from back. We purge it and have to face a melee with more hps, more ws (A LOT MORE, 1000WS), he can IP, etc..
If they are zerkers they will pop bear mode
If they are savages... well...
And all of em eat PA for 400-500, "assassination" style :D and parry block ur stun if u cant get their back before they face.

Mincers mincers... skalds will do u the same, just hitting ur ass with 2hand instead of 1hand and sucky shield

They can run out of range, but u can leech from a lot of range too, add to fights without any risk, or shoot and run, etc etc..

How i will explain it to u. I rolled an infil cos i like it . U didnt read my last post? And was 50%infil or scout, at start just gone to rogue, at lvl5 was between scout or infil and chose infil, when my infil was lvl6, i raised an scout to 5, but was too boring to spam bow all the time, and it was fun to go to the back of mods and boom, half life gone :D so i continued my infil. Never heard they were WTFUBER so i chose it to be WTFUBER. ALready explained it. :eek6:

U again compare urself to mages, u are really showing that u want wtfshoot for 500+ every sec like em. They only have dmg from range and when they arent interrupted, so they must make nice dmg, still a bit overpowered imo. But u cant compare ur dmg to mages, u have better armor, u can melee, etc..

Hope to see u these days in emain (alone or duo, not zerg pls), i will show u how gimp im ;)
 

-Palan-

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@mat
ich find das voll süß :m00: in groß siehts aber besser aus

@yad
i never ever said i wanna shoot for 500dmg every sec or what, it was u that said that we do such uber dmg!i just pointed out what our dmg is compared to uber dmg :twak:
i sometimes hit harder in melee than i would with my bow. and i hit more often and faster aswell.

about the leeching, well ye thats kinda true we can leech from range till a assassin stealths up to us and gets a perfect PA on us as we're busy leechin our asses of

comparing BG scouts and playing on gorre for a few weeks with the normal life of an archer is like :puke

...U think an assassin is god?...
well, u had it easy mode for ages(while fighting archers). and during a few patches u guys actualy could have replaced god with ur uberness :p
just wait for NF to go life and then try it out with ur normal chars, with normal equipment, normal zerging conditions,buffs etc. should be fun, even for u nerfed to oblivion (whining)assassin who can't live with mos :fluffle:

there will be some skill full assassins who can figure out a way to live with mos, don't think yad will be one of em tho, he rather gives up even befor it realy all starts :>
 

Vodkafairy

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hum tanks are really easy to kill for assassins, if its too tough to take in straight melee just kite
 

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