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Christ, 22 confirmed dead including children and 59 injured. Targeting a primarily, childrens concert is a new low for the scum of the earth.
 

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Its not a new low...not even close, its mainly white kids, so it seems much worse.
 

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Its not a new low...not even close, its mainly white kids, so it seems much worse.
Um colour has fuck all to do with it, children are children, end of.
 

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No..I think you'll find its very important, you may be mixing up me saying its more important and that I dont like brown kids.
The reality is white kids dying is 1000X more of a story than brown kids.
This many brown kids dying in Iraq wouldnt make the news.
 

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No..I think you'll find its very important, you may be mixing up me saying its more important and that I dont like brown kids.
The reality is white kids dying is 1000X more of a story than brown kids.
This many brown kids dying in Iraq wouldnt make the news.
Again, it's not colour. It was a targeted attack at children. Yeh I feel for innocents killed anywhere in the world whether it is from a terrorist attack or from military action. I don't know what the answer is, not sure there is one. Unfortunately, in my opinion, the Western world has interfered in places it shouldn't have, but, have done so for hundreds and hundreds of years.
 

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Its not a new low...not even close, its mainly white kids, so it seems much worse.

I sort of agree, but to be honest even when these fucknuts are killing brown kids, I can't think of a time when they've specifically targeted little girls before, which would be 90% of the audience for an Ariana Grande concert; she's a Nickelodeon actress for fucks' sake, her audience age is probably about 10.
 

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Totally disgusting. Aimed specifically at young girls.


Just want to make the point about deaths from air pollution being way higher again. But yep :(
 

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I sort of agree, but to be honest even when these fucknuts are killing brown kids, I can't think of a time when they've specifically targeted little girls before, which would be 90% of the audience for an Ariana Grande concert; she's a Nickelodeon actress for fucks' sake, her audience age is probably about 10.

Islamists target little girls with atrocities all the time, just that most of the time they prefer to enslave them rather than just outright murder them. Example (from the pinnacle of journalistic integrity and accuracy):

Yazidi women are not just Isis sex slaves. It is genocide

Or Rotherham.. if you are inclined to look closer to home.
 

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Totally disgusting. Aimed specifically at young girls.


Just want to make the point about deaths from air pollution being way higher again. But yep :(
Point of terrorism is not the numbers of casualties, it is the psychological impact.

Air pollution is a side effect of modern civilization, if you don't like it there are plenty of remote regions of the world with much 'cleaner' air. The unfortunate downside is that Amazon prime delivery and supermarkets/other retailers where you can buy a huge array of things that originated from all over the world (and hence have been transited thousands of miles in the process) don't really exist in those places.

I struggle to see any 'positive' side effects of terrorism itself or policies that demonstrably heighten the risk of such attacks.
 

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We've been butchering each other for millennia, it doesn't change the fact that waking up to a bunch of kids being slaughtered ("down the road" geographically) rather disgraceful.
 
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One of the charities a few years back did a real hard hitting advert showing young, white American soccer girls being blown up on the pitch, they basically said, this is happening all the time, the shock value is because they look like us..that's all it is, simple human hard wiring.
 

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Arndale now evacuated.
 

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Some very panicked looking people on the videos on twitter
 

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Jesus, flying from Manchester airport on Saturday.
I will without any shame, be keeping good distance or a big wall between me and anyone who looks Arabic and odd.
 

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In before generic "he was known to the security services" like every other fucking attack that happens. Cowardly fucking animals, this is a new low even for these fucking brainwashed twats.

Gov needs to come up with a better plan to tackle this shit, its no use coming out and going "We knew about him" after he goes and blows kids up along with himself, they need a fucking direct course of action that prevents it entirely.
 

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When you say better plan...you mean, fuck the human rights, lets lock em all up.

Which is what dictators have been doing for like ever, oh and torturing them to grass on their mates.
 

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When you say better plan...you mean, fuck the human rights, lets lock em all up.

Which is what dictators have been doing for like ever, oh and torturing them to grass on their mates.

I'd never condone something like that... HOWEVER, if this shit keeps happening and the government continuously shows its ineptitude in dealing with these lowlifes before they do shit like this, yes, lock the fuckers up if they're known terror suspects and torture the bastards for info, I'd rather that than having to read the fucking heartache parents go through everytime something like this happens.
 

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You'd never condone it...but then again you would.

In defence of the government and to bring the threat into context, they are doing a really good job and spending billions redesigning western society back to the middle ages , when people built castles.
 

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You'd never condone it...but then again you would.

In defence of the government and to bring the threat into context, they are doing a really good job and spending billions redesigning western society back to the middle ages , when people built castles.

They are but what use are the security services if they always know about these fuckers? because it seems to be a trend now, every time there's a terrorist attack we get the same generic response "He was known to us."
 

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As Sadiq said, 'thats life in the big city'
Hopefully brown people will have the same attitude when the bombs start dropping again after this one.

The US dropped 26 thousand in 2016
 

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Three posts in a row from @Job that I agree with. IT'S THE END OF DAYS PEOPLE! THE RAPTURE IS COMING!
 

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Islamic State said....

“One of the soldiers of the caliphate placed explosive devices in a gathering of crusaders in the middle of the British city of Manchester”

Gathering of Crusaders? ....CRUSADERS? REALLY?
 

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You have to remember these throwbacks are little more than middle age fuckwits who are bizarrely still upset about what happened 1000 years ago.

Or at least that it is how they frame their propaganda, really they are just after control and wealth. They can recruit very easily from a large pool of people that have been playing "dodge the bombs" for the last 20 years or so from others who seek control and wealth.
 

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I'd never condone something like that... HOWEVER, if this shit keeps happening and the government continuously shows its ineptitude in dealing with these lowlifes before they do shit like this, yes, lock the fuckers up if they're known terror suspects and torture the bastards for info, I'd rather that than having to read the fucking heartache parents go through everytime something like this happens.

I don't think you can call our security services inept; they arrest people regularly after uncovering plots like this. They can't catch everyone. And torture? Get to fuck.
 

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I don't think you can call our security services inept; they arrest people regularly after uncovering plots like this. They can't catch everyone. And torture? Get to fuck.

Come up with a better solution then? let me save you time, you can't. As I said above, I don't condone torture (under normal circumstances) this is going beyond normal now though, these bastards are cowards, stick them in a room with a few trained interrogators for a few weeks and they'll fold like a paper fucking plate with a wealth of intel.

I'd rather see terror suspects tortured to the brink than see one of these (what is now becoming a common thing) incidents take place, ripping families apart and ruining futures.
 

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Load of rubbish. You can't come up with a better solution (how exactly are we supposed to even get our heads around dealing with someone who is prepared to walk into the middle of a bunch of children and blow themselves up?) because there is no better solution but the alternative isn't locking them up en masse and torturing them ffs. What about the families that would get ripped apart and the futures that would be ruined because one of their relatives was (perhaps wrongfully) tortured? Fuck them because they're brown, right? And their sorrow isn't as important as ours, right?

It's a difficult problem and one to which there isn't an immediate answer.
 

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It is indeed tragic but it was always going to happen, even our very proficient security services already acknowledged they can't stop them all each time they've managed to foil some sort of attack.
 

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