wtf are we gone get now ?

[Arethir]

So you are saying it's faster to take a boat to say DC bridge (including the time spent getting past whichever group has come off Agramon to camp the docks cos their rp/hour was dropping) than it is for us to go and camp the first milegate?

I am not suggesting we run THROUGH Agramon I am pointing out that there are plenty of nice places to camp on it once you are there.

Yes. Yes! Let's all go camp our milegates! And... And... Camp? What you gonna do there unless someone moves trough agramon to get to you?
And yes, having ran trough Agramon many a time on top speed and sprint, I know it takes some time. And I know taking a boat is alot easier.
Whether you believe it or not, it doesn't matter. Agramon was still empty when the fgs started roaming there, and the zerg people have never had any interest of keeping agramon as a scenery to fight within.

 

[Muppet]

Now this is an old one Muppet - I suggest you take some time to read through the multitude of threads on the subject. I almost CBA to go through it with yet another person new to the discussion. Just because there is a CoC doesn't mean we cannot have our own conventions. Thats what a community is - a group of people getting along together trying to accomodate each other. Its good to allow communities to grow and generate their own rules. It pays GOA's bills. All they do is provide that space for this thing to happen. Its why they do not intervene. its why they will not upgrade the keep. Because all this controversy is actually part of a MMORPG.

No-one is dictating anything to anyone. Ac-ers are free to Ac - TT have not changed that. They are not even asking to vilify those that do it. All they are doing is expressing that they will not condone it. Are you trying to say they should not be allowed to do that?

There is no rule that says they cannot do - we know because a GM said so.

This is priceless, a community?!! do you call this a community??!
This isnt even far from a community as far as Im concerned. All we get these days on the RvR board is spam, whine, more whine, flames and other worthless stuff.
Also, the same "community" has recently deceided to mass leave, so guess that leaves hm what exactly?!

This community is exactly that tries to make rules, as you just said yourselves. Yet who controls this community, who is part of it, is it just the FH posters in the RvR part? That arent all albs I can assure you that, so is it a despotism rather then a democracy then? because if we would have all the albs to have their say in this particular matter, then I guess the outcome might have been alot different.

But you know what, this is exactly what has been going on in this forum, a handfull of veterans have always been in the illusion that they could make the rules for so many just because well, you ask them really. Those rules they came up with does not always reflect what the majority of the actual subscribers of the cluster wants.

 

[Arethir]

People were already going to leave. Might aswel slam the door hard and tell AC'ers it's their fault.

I'm not telling AC'ers "it's their fault".
The game has been dying. It will probably keep that up. All games die in the end. What we can change however, is how much fun we can have before that end, and how much into the future we can push that end, which the AC'ers prevent us from doing. Cluster isn't dying because of them. But they are killing it before it's time.

 

[rawr]

So you are saying it's faster to take a boat to say DC bridge (including the time spent getting past whichever group has come off Agramon to camp the docks cos their rp/hour was dropping) than it is for us to go and camp the first milegate?

I am not suggesting we run THROUGH Agramon I am pointing out that there are plenty of nice places to camp on it once you are there.

There are limited FGs running on this cluster now anyway and what you are still refusing to accept, is that in the longterm TT are looking out for the best interests of everyone - which just so happens to include themselves too. You are trying to prove a moot point, the groups left will either move area or leave the server. What do you truly win then? Well I guess the whole server to yourselves is rather tempting...

Like I've said quite a few times now, you have to be blind not to notice how empty the server is already feeling recently; all you are doing now is forcing a larger divide between everyone and pushing them away faster. Please tell me how this is a good thing? You may enjoy it in the shortterm as you have proven whatever little point you had by increasing the AC activity, but in the end nobody wins. Nobody wants to play on an empty server, or am I wrong in assuming this?

If I am right in assuming this, then it shows why it is important to reach some sort of compromise to ensure this server can continue its life, otherwise things are going to continue to spiral for the worse

 

[Soulja_IA_]

not utter crap at all, i'd happily sign up to do anything that would spoil their precious FG v FG agramon days now and AC raid, nothing more and nothing less but out of disgust for those in that guild and what they have done.
They are a disgrace to the realm, the game and the community in general.

AC raids are bad enough but this is a whole new low and I don't believe for a minute they wouldn't of done this no matter how the relic was won.

And if the alliances that have been most affected by this, those that just try to play the game for fun, respond by zerging agramon or helping the AC raiders they'd normally of ignored, then you have no one else to blame but the Traitorous Twats guild.

Really is that how you invision all this Not that TT can see that Server slowly declining and AC which as an Old experienced Alb like you self know you own realm has been doing 90% more than other realms is in end making people think "why the fuck do I bother"

Maybe alb with the immense number advantage they have should try doing these Raids in a primetime then these people will see that server is not all doom and gloom but a lot of fun when as alb have done since practically day 1 of NF with the CM guild being the more likelyhood of all guilds to take a relic at 3-4 in the morning it no Fun especially when as a realm you try taking it back with alb superior numbers frustration and then I quit button comes in.Maybe if you tried in primetime people will appreciate it more.

The only satisfaction people are getting out of all this are the AC crew no 1 else so that is probably 95% of server population while the 5% are thinking great we got another 10% to Pve guards.

There is no good in blaming 1 guild for all this I don't think TT are traitors to alb.

lol and as for TT downgrading they keep so us Hibs can get Relic back people have such short memory's as it wasn't all that long ago that LA on Hib released a keep so albs could get IRvR in hib land as mids had Crim so they released bolg for you.LOL And you think they did that for the good of Hib rofl.We lost a Relic after they did that to the CM Ac crew then.

Soulja

 

[Arethir]

Well I guess the whole server to yourselves is rather tempting...

Dude, whole server to yourself = winning daoc!

 

[enkor]

lol irl at this thread, good job TT

 

[Sharkith]

This is priceless, a community?!! do you call this a community??!
This isnt even far from a community as far as Im concerned. All we get these days on the RvR board is spam, whine, more whine, flames and other worthless stuff.
Also, the same "community" has recently deceided to mass leave, so guess that leaves hm what exactly?!

This community is exactly that tries to make rules, as you just said yourselves. Yet who controls this community, who is part of it, is it just the FH posters in the RvR part? That arent all albs I can assure you that, so is it a despotism rather then a democracy then? because if we would have all the albs to have their say in this particular matter, then I guess the outcome might have been alot different.

But you know what, this is exactly what has been going on in this forum, a handfull of veterans have always been in the illusion that they could make the rules for so many just because well, you ask them really. Those rules they came up with does not always reflect what the majority of the actual subscribers of the cluster wants.

This is the last post I will make here on FH. Muppet you would have been interesting to discuss things with if you had come along here a bit sooner. No-one ever said a community was a united thing where people live in happiness and a kind of nirvana. In fact it is sad to say this has been a very dysfunctional place.

I posted a very long time ago that rather than talk about what it is we would have been better to discuss being in community together. trying to sort out our problems and trying to get ways around the problems people were having to make the game better. I argued that we should celebrate the 'diversity' of DaoC and the way the game rocked that you could do so much with it. You can aerg, solo, get into keep raids have epic relic raids, you can also have 8vs8. Its a beautiful game tbh. I just wanted for people to see that we could do this as a group - it just wasn't to be - population was in the end too low.

The game has not changed one bit. Mythic are right it is the best PvP game around - and nothing even comes close. What is sad and I have said this a good few times now is that we could not sort out our differences. Not by making rules but by creating space for each other to play in.

The FG peeps managed to get Agramon off the ground again after 6 -8 months of iRvR. Sadly the soloer problem was never solved and this is where the poison set in. Then we had the ACing - just another string of antisocial behaviour. Just look back through this forum - you will see people did try not by making rules - but by trying to get people to accommodate each other. I am even trying to get you to see that now and I am leaving lol.

If you knew me at all you would know that I was trying to do this. Even now I am trying. Not by making rules but just by trying to get you and others to understand each other better.

NVM I know when it is a waste of time to continue and this time I am serious. So long as we (NFDGG2) remain away from the server I won't be back here on FH. I will browse - but this is the last public post I am going to make. Your welcome to discuss it over PM's - but like I said the thread is going nowhere now. I wish you all the best.

 

[Kagato]

Really is that how you invision all this Not that TT can see that Server slowly declining and AC which as an Old experienced Alb like you self know you own realm has been doing 90% more than other realms is in end making people think "why the fuck do I bother"

lol don't try and bullshit that they did this for any kind of noble reason, just look at their responses to see they did it just for the laughs, to piss people of and so they can keep their precious fg v fg balanced.

As for 90%, get real, all realms AC just as much as each other.

There is no good in blaming 1 guild for all this I don't think TT are traitors to alb.

yet everyone is quite happy to blame CM.
And im sorry but TT are absolutely traitors in every sense of the word, they only even play Albion twice a week, they don't give a flying fuck about Albion, thats why they are quite happy to fuck everyone else over that plays the realm and make them suffer for what a few people did whilst they were asleep, they are a disgrace to the game, let alone the realm and we'd be better off if they never even logged in at all. Your welcome to them if you love them that much, we sure as hell don't want them.

lol and as for TT downgrading they keep so us Hibs can get Relic back people have such short memory's as it wasn't all that long ago that LA on Hib released a keep so albs could get IRvR in hib land as mids had Crim so they released bolg for you.LOL And you think they did that for the good of Hib rofl.We lost a Relic after they did that to the CM Ac crew then.

Soulja

Thats there own stupid fault then and I criticised them for it at the time, sadly you cannot choose your so called realm mates.

 

[Gazon]

I'm not telling AC'ers "it's their fault".
The game has been dying. It will probably keep that up. All games die in the end. What we can change however, is how much fun we can have before that end, and how much into the future we can push that end, which the AC'ers prevent us from doing. Cluster isn't dying because of them. But they are killing it before it's time.

The quitting Hibs are saying it's the AC raid's fault. They are drama queens.
And TT are their bitches for responding to their tears.

I know you know 10% damage means absolutely nothing at all in Agramon.

It's not a reason to quit, not even "the last straw" reason. It's pure whine.

 

[Golena]

And im sorry but TT are absolutely traitors in every sense of the word, they only even play Albion twice a week, they don't give a flying fuck about Albion, thats why they are quite happy to fuck everyone else over that plays the realm and make them suffer for what a few people did whilst they were asleep, they are a disgrace to the game, let alone the realm and we'd be better off if they never even logged in at all. Your welcome to them if you love them that much, we sure as hell don't want them.

Yet another case of you spouting crap about how much pain the Albs are in..

Everyone in the other 2 realms has been making exactly the same arguments but about the Albs that your currently defending. Last time I checked we were all DAoC players.

Yeah if someone doesn't click on the alb cup at the start, their feelings don't matter at all..
They are f**king everyone else over for the actions of a few while they were asleep.. please explain what the people who were asleep did to deserve the relic defence that they are apparently being denied... Now stop whining about the fact that you arn't being allowed to defend something that you had no part in taking in the first place.. Once the hibs have taken it back you can have fun trying to take it properly this time, except you won't.. The actual traitors in alb are those who sit about every night primetime despite having twice the numbers of the enemy realm not trying to take the relics properly because they can't be arsed, and i'm fairly sure I can count your name amongst them.

If the keep had stayed at level 10 then I doubt mids or hibs would of tried to take it back at any time when you were awake, so your not being denied a relic defence, your being denied 10% bonus that you stole. Guess we now know where your true motives lie.

 

[Kinetix]

The quitting Hibs are saying it's the AC raid's fault. They are drama queens.
And TT are their bitches for responding to their tears.

I know you know 10% damage means absolutely nothing at all in Agramon.

It's not a reason to quit, not even "the last straw" reason. It's pure whine.

So true, even for my fire wiz with WP4 Mom4 i get to do 60-70 more dam on a nuke, can you call that unbalanced? Cause if you do then one can say warlocks are op so his hib stun nuke, theres really no point.

 

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

And im sorry but TT are absolutely traitors in every sense of the word, they only even play Albion twice a week, they don't give a flying fuck about Albion, thats why they are quite happy to fuck everyone else over that plays the realm and make them suffer for what a few people did whilst they were asleep, they are a disgrace to the game, let alone the realm and we'd be better off if they never even logged in at all. Your welcome to them if you love them that much, we sure as hell don't want them.

Well, I for one am glad they fucked you Kagato.

Amazing how hard some people have to see the obvious in this.

TT may or may not have had a hidden agenda with what they did, you don't know, I don't know and assuming that they are lieing (sp?) about it on an internet forum what good would that do, I mean are you lieing right now?
Either way, whatever the motive was some people got fucked and some others felt they got unfucked, they pay their subs the ACer pay their subs. Since we can't all have it all always, someone will get fucked once in a while, this time you 'nice guys' got fucked, don't get angry...get even.

Now stop this tiresome crying. The ones who posted in the other thread should really take their own, oh so eagerly stated advices, and stfu, we pay our own subs, hence we also are nice guys irl.

 

[Rushie]

lol don't try and bullshit that they did this for any kind of noble reason, just look at their responses to see they did it just for the laughs, to piss people of and so they can keep their precious fg v fg balanced.

As for 90%, get real, all realms AC just as much as each other.




yet everyone is quite happy to blame CM.
And im sorry but TT are absolutely traitors in every sense of the word, they only even play Albion twice a week, they don't give a flying fuck about Albion, thats why they are quite happy to fuck everyone else over that plays the realm and make them suffer for what a few people did whilst they were asleep, they are a disgrace to the game, let alone the realm and we'd be better off if they never even logged in at all. Your welcome to them if you love them that much, we sure as hell don't want them.






Thats there own stupid fault then and I criticised them for it at the time, sadly you cannot choose your so called realm mates.

u dont half spout some shit do u, rather obvious u didnt really read what some of us posted and even if u did u just twisted it round in ur sad little mind to fit ur own dummy spitting, self righteous posts.

i find it quite funny as well about how the "fgvfg crew" get slated about insulting ppl non stop yet whos doing the insulting here? ur twisting of our guild name as an insult is childish and laughable.

 

[Punishment]

The quitting Hibs are saying it's the AC raid's fault. They are drama queens.
And TT are their bitches for responding to their tears.

I know you know 10% damage means absolutely nothing at all in Agramon.

It's not a reason to quit, not even "the last straw" reason. It's pure whine.

I wouldnt say is AC's fault ... but its the final straw tbh

Logging on hib yesterday morning and seeing only 1 port open ... i just /qtd ... why bother ?

 

[Soulja_IA_]

lol don't try and bullshit that they did this for any kind of noble reason, just look at their responses to see they did it just for the laughs, to piss people of and so they can keep their precious fg v fg balanced.

As for 90%, get real, all realms AC just as much as each other.




yet everyone is quite happy to blame CM.
And im sorry but TT are absolutely traitors in every sense of the word, they only even play Albion twice a week, they don't give a flying fuck about Albion, thats why they are quite happy to fuck everyone else over that plays the realm and make them suffer for what a few people did whilst they were asleep, they are a disgrace to the game, let alone the realm and we'd be better off if they never even logged in at all. Your welcome to them if you love them that much, we sure as hell don't want them.






Thats there own stupid fault then and I criticised them for it at the time, sadly you cannot choose your so called realm mates.

I know all realms AC Kagato but as I posted 90% of All AC has been done by Albs not Mids/Hibs but Albs.
Why would you think they traitors lol they would be 1st to defend Alb if the relic had been taking at a reasonable hour.
As for CM they are practically 1's who have gone out the way to piss people off with AC antics and as for saying we welcome TT I encourage anyone to come play Hib just as much as you would for Alb.
I really do wonder if you be making all these statements if shoe was on other foot and you were a Hib player would you realy be making the same such posts as you do.(I think not)
Lots of Hibs have left this server lately not that they don't like the game but gone to play US cluster servers and Avalon because of the attitude of players that play this cluster and got to stage where AC raiding that YOU Albs have done lately just made them feel why they bother when YOU Albs just cannot just put up a good fight.
Fairplay I didn't think there was an End game to this Game but YOU Albs seem to have found it in Piss people off enough they just move on or quit.

Think I covered everything this thread has to offer on subject.

Soulja

 

[Penlid]

The reason NFD went to Avalon is because of no action, we were fighting the same people over and over until all there was left was albs who either zerg or camp a tower with their bots all day.

Where is the fun? It came to a point when some players where logging on as if it were a chore and not the fun that kept them playing.

Moving to Avalon has opened a new light for some players, even some players have re-opened and we've been welcomed with open arms into the Avalon community by some old cluster players.

The past 2 days i have enjoyed playing more than the last month or two on the UK cluster, it's actually fun to log on and most of all i don't see it as a chore.

It's something we thought about for some time (before the AC raid infact). We had chars their for a week before... so thats not the reason behind us leaving.

Infact we haven't even left, we still have our hib chars and will proceed to log on from time to time.

But for gods sake will you people realise that your crying over some fucking pixels, it's about time you took a good look at where you want to go in the game and how your actions can reflect others, because tbh at the moment its a one realm arguement over a relic and the elitist twats are so involved in their own zerging and camping world they can't see the humor in it! It's about time you people start to grow the fuck up and get some air, because now its just getting really fucking boring.

 

[Matt]

Looking how some people respond to this thread is pretty hilarious. Talking about 'fucking over your realmsmates', 'making your own ppl suffer', you'd think they did something terrible. And what is it all about? Renaris is lvl 1 instead of lvl 9 or 10... Asking to burn them, or getting all pissed off about it and ranting on FH seems a little over the top, don't you think?

If you look at it a little more objectively, you could think 'I don't like that they make the choice for me, but at least the playing field is evened a bit'. Because Albion active RvR population is far superior to Hib's especially. So a lvl 1 keep would be harder to defend and easier to take over? Sounds pretty damn good to me, makes keepfights more interesting at least !

Or is it just the principle of it? The 'They made a choice for me and i won't have that' view on things. Yep, annoying, just as annoying as finding some peeps from your realm have AC raided a relic, in times where alot of peeps are alrdy leaving. What to do about it then. Give back the relic, cause i disagree? Nah can't do that can we, let's just try to find a middleground and at least give Hibs a chance to get it back, if they want to. And that it would restore the balance if it gets back to their rightful owners, well that would be a bonus. But i guess it has to be some evil scheme, from that weird phenomenon called IRC, the place where all the elitist FG lovers gather and make fun of the more casual player and think of malicious ways to bother them. And to enlarge their socalled e-peen to their FG loving bumchums ofcourse, we all know how important that is. It can't be because they are taking a stand and/or trying to fix a situation they are unhappy with. Can't be that, because we all know how does bloody elitist pricks think: Everything goes to get an e-peen boost and precious rps !

Seriously, some of you really need to take a step back and look at what the hell you are saying. Some of the guys who posted these raving stories, and theories about what should be done to these 'traitors' do not surprise me; they have shown in the history of FH they are thick, stubborn extremely biased idiots who cannot empathise with anything outside their own realm or even class. Some others who posted here, foaming at the mouth, have disappointed me, i expected alot better from them. You guys need a reality-check imo, because that doesn't sound healthy at all.

It seems the majority of the ppl that don't condone TT's actions, can't look past the fact that they are a guild that wants FG fights, and get their pleasure out of a certain level of fairness in their fights. Blindfoldedly repeating how elitist they are, how they must love their IRC fanbois and so on, really repugnant stuff you see fly by in this thread. Generalisation and bias galore on this matter. And for what? a keep got downgraded to level 1...
Now admittedly, this thread has been very entertaining, i can see where both parties (if you'd divide em in 2) are coming from. But the ones that really show their worst side in this thread are the ppl screaming for a witchhunt with their pottymouths. The whole argument about how these FG lovers try to dictate how others should play the game is blown waaay out of proportion, get a grip, and put your blindfolds down for a minute, and you might actually see the point they are trying to make. You may not agree, but surely you won't be spouting aggressive crap in here anymore and post in a normal fashion.

I for one think it's a good try TT, takes balls to stand by what you believe in, full well knowing that you will annoy some ppl (or in this case, pop a vein or 2 on some ppl). I hope it has the desired effect, or at least will get your message across.


P.S. I realise this post hasn't been exactly coherent, but the jist of it should be clear.

 

[Gazon]

So we've established ppl are not leaving because of AC raids.
We've also established 10% is only a token bonus and of no consequence to fg fights.

TT is saying they are doing this to deny the guilty Albs their enjoyment of that symbolic prize because they don't deserve it. I'm fine with that.
I would accept that action if say a guild like CM would put the relic keep to lvl 1 for that reason.

But WHY on earth would you do that as a 2-day-a-week guild that does never participate in siege warfare, relics or the roleplaying part of the game?

Answer: Power trip, attention, pat on the shoulder from their friends and a good laugh at the Angry Zerging Noobs when they protest.

and THAT my dear friends is why it's a lame thing to do.

 

[Punishment]

I can see where you are coming from matt+penlid

But only reason some rant and rave is because they are at the point of quitting because of lame tactics ... and i for one may only have low rr gimps ... but i put alot of work into those gimps and there is no point in rvring anymore because Albs feel the need to AC+Overkill Hib/Hib Frontier

And its when i take a step back that i realise how much of a waste this cluster is atm ... Wasted time = QQ mode

 

[Ati]

go go TT!

 

[Punishment]

So we've established ppl are not leaving because of AC raids.
We've also established 10% is only a token bonus and of no consequence to fg fights.

TT is saying they are doing this to deny the guilty Albs their enjoyment of that symbolic prize because they don't deserve it. I'm fine with that.
I would accept that action if say a guild like CM would put the relic keep to lvl 1 for that reason.

But WHY on earth would you do that as a 2-day-a-week guild that does never participate in siege warfare, relics or the roleplaying part of the game?

Answer: Power trip, attention, pat on the shoulder from their friends and a good laugh at the Angry Zerging Noobs when they protest.



and THAT my dear friends is why it's a lame thing to do.

Kind of says it all when TT can log on 2-days a week and still easily be the best Alb gg out there and make 800k a night when they cba

But i wouldnt worry ... as the alb zerg can just camp their ralic gate ... and the QQ when a fg or 2 of Hibs take back their relics which were pved when decent people are sleeping/getting ready for work ...

The main point is ... the number of Hibs who cba to bother is getting fewer and fewer ... now roleplay and say 'good riddance' if you want ... but it has destroyed the cluster

 

[Golena]

So we've established ppl are not leaving because of AC raids.
We've also established 10% is only a token bonus and of no consequence to fg fights.

They are leaving because of the lack of action, and the lack of action is because hibs and mids can't be arsed to generate any if it's just going to be AC'ed back 2 hours later.

It's not the AC raids they are leaving over, it's the situation that the AC raids have generated over the past several months. If people can't be arsed to generate any prime time raids due to the AC'ing then everyone just stands on a bridge which leads to crap rvr which leads to people leaving.

Anger leads to hate..
Hate leads to suffering..
etc etc.

 

[Rushie]

So we've established ppl are not leaving because of AC raids.
We've also established 10% is only a token bonus and of no consequence to fg fights.

TT is saying they are doing this to deny the guilty Albs their enjoyment of that symbolic prize because they don't deserve it. I'm fine with that.
I would accept that action if say a guild like CM would put the relic keep to lvl 1 for that reason.

But WHY on earth would you do that as a 2-day-a-week guild that does never participate in siege warfare, relics or the roleplaying part of the game?

Answer: Power trip, attention, pat on the shoulder from their friends and a good laugh at the Angry Zerging Noobs when they protest.

and THAT my dear friends is why it's a lame thing to do.

we run a gg 2 nights a week but thats not to say we dont play at other times and enjoy other forms of rvr. most ppl know nothing about what goes inside our guild yet there quite fast to point out what we do and dont do without having the slightest bit of facts or proof to back it up.

most of u just are just narrow minded fools who cant see past ur own nose and i think this thread has proved it many times over.

 

[Gazon]

we run a gg 2 nights a week but thats not to say we dont play at other times and enjoy other forms of rvr. most ppl know nothing about what goes inside our guild yet there quite fast to point out what we do and dont do without having the slightest bit of facts or proof to back it up.

most of u just are just narrow minded fools who cant see past ur own nose and i think this thread has proved it many times over.

So Albion can expect your participation at the next prime time relic raid attempt like always?
Tell Socrates to bring rams!

 

[BlackrazoR]

There's 32 pages to this thread? Zomg I am not reading that. TT are do a favour to everyone by trying to keep some interest in cluster. Nuff said IMO.

 

[Punishment]

So Albion can expect your participation at the next prime time relic raid attempt like always?
Tell Socrates to bring rams!

You just dont get it ... Do you ?

A dog wont keep getting up wagging its tail if you kick it in the ass for long enough ...

 

[Killswitch]

So Albion can expect your participation at the next prime time relic raid attempt like always?
Tell Socrates to bring rams!

Makes me think of that Monty Python sketch with the footballing philosophers (Greece vs. Germany)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGRXF4t_nHI

Confucious he say "name go in book"

 

[kirennia]

lol don't try and bullshit that they did this for any kind of noble reason, just look at their responses to see they did it just for the laughs, to piss people of and so they can keep their precious fg v fg balanced.

As for 90%, get real, all realms AC just as much as each other.


yet everyone is quite happy to blame CM.
And im sorry but TT are absolutely traitors in every sense of the word, they only even play Albion twice a week, they don't give a flying fuck about Albion, thats why they are quite happy to fuck everyone else over that plays the realm and make them suffer for what a few people did whilst they were asleep, they are a disgrace to the game, let alone the realm and we'd be better off if they never even logged in at all. Your welcome to them if you love them that much, we sure as hell don't want them.






Thats there own stupid fault then and I criticised them for it at the time, sadly you cannot choose your so called realm mates.

Have you even read our posts thinking with a clear mind? Can you honestly not see anything other then your thought that we'd do this purposefully to try and screw over as many people as possible?

I can see your point of view and to a degree, agree with it. The differences between us at the moment only seems to be our open mindedness to others opinions and the need for spouting random insults.

5 years in the community organising pretty much every kind of raid there is kinda shows my devoution to the game/realm and does it not phase you that someone who has done this in the past is now so annoyed at the state of the server that they'd threaten their own reputation by doing something like this?

You can't say it's for reputation as the only reputation I've built up in game over the years has been with albs.

So we've established ppl are not leaving because of AC raids.
We've also established 10% is only a token bonus and of no consequence to fg fights.

TT is saying they are doing this to deny the guilty Albs their enjoyment of that symbolic prize because they don't deserve it. I'm fine with that.
I would accept that action if say a guild like CM would put the relic keep to lvl 1 for that reason.

But WHY on earth would you do that as a 2-day-a-week guild that does never participate in siege warfare, relics or the roleplaying part of the game?

Answer: Power trip, attention, pat on the shoulder from their friends and a good laugh at the Angry Zerging Noobs when they protest.

and THAT my dear friends is why it's a lame thing to do.

You don't even know any of us, obviously. It was just a few nights ago I was grouped with a custodia PuG late at night before I was pulled away due to a fire alarm going off (I even stayed til I got back to the keep as I knew it was another annoying 2am drill.....).

I'm guessing most wont want to group with me now but it's a price to pay for standing up in what you beleive in. I guess all this will just translate to 'I hate all of alb' anyway.../sigh

So Albion can expect your participation at the next prime time relic raid attempt like always?
Tell Socrates to bring rams!

Last keep take I was involved in was less then a month ago. Should a primetime relic raid occur and I happen to be online when it's in progress, I'd take part but I wont log on at any specific time unless it's for a guild group anymore as I don't think many PuGs will be coming my way.

 

[Succi]

Hahaha, the irony, it kills me, hahah.


Whine more Brakus and Muy, they pay their subs, remb?


Hahahah, the irony.

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