Where is Midgard on Prydwen going ?

Bibi

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Bubble said:
(Btw Nice one forming and running a Group Aldoran, maybe fill it up and your have better luck against us)
Yeah, right. And when we gonna get FG up u gonna run with 2 FG ? :worthy:
 

Derric

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Aldoran forming a group? Haven't he had one since he started playing? 0o
 

Dumle

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bigchief said:
I told Saitoh we'd get a qq for that :( Shame a fg albs came and spoiled our fun :<


Ssssh, I was keeping you secret ^^

And yeah it actually was fun, I discovered the true meaning of moving slow 4 ressillness :)
 

Bubble

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Bibi said:
Yeah, right. And when we gonna get FG up u gonna run with 2 FG ? :worthy:

Right, or your can remain running with 5 people are QQ when a FG hits you
 

Tizu

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Funny thing is Hibs still have benefits :)

Mids will rise again, you need to give them time.
 

Straef

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Mids got fed up with rvr after losing relics, and cba to put some effort into defending relics/keeps instead of farming soloers with gank groups x<<
 

Borvo

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Brite said:
Last week RP
Albion - 19,803,851 (44%)
Hibernia - 13,526,365 (30%)
Midgard - 11,712,885 (26%)

and thats with -

Active Characters
Albion - 2,951 (42%)
Hibernia - 1,851 (26%)
Midgard - 2,240 (32%)
when hib goes to relic raid we send 85%+ of our active players to rvr...alb send what? 50%? and why cant u mids send like 80%? and to bad u got selfish guild grps that refuse to help u on keep takes...hib and alb got gg that help..maybe thats a reason
 

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Borvo said:
when hib goes to relic raid we send 85%+ of our active players to rvr...alb send what? 50%? and why cant u mids send like 80%? and to bad u got selfish guild grps that refuse to help u on keep takes...hib and alb got gg that help..maybe thats a reason


Must be the same on ALL servers ............... lol so narrow minded!
 

Etzel

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Active Characters Albion - 2,951 (42%) Hibernia - 1,851 (26%) Midgard - 2,240 (32%)
Everybody rolls these stats out but they aren't an accurate reflection of people playing Mid. Whenever I remember I do a /who just after login now, the last week and a bit we have been averaging a shade over 25% of the total pop. We can just hope that the 7% are taking an extended break I guess :confused:
 

Gups

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What is counted as "Active" ... I play my hunter and Skald and Sm a few times a week are these all "Active" .... + my bb if so thats 4 straight off the list straight away :)

You see what I mean the term active covers too much I cannot play all 4 classes for a relic raid.

I know this is probably true for all realms but at the current state of play I would guess..(yes guess - this statement is not based on any kind of fact) I would guess that more mids are playing alts at the moment.
 

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Gups said:
I would guess that more mids are playing alts at the moment.

Without any proof I would guess more Hibs play alts because we can do TOA and ML's in 3 days with 17 animists and have all our arti's up to lvl 10.

According to Mids ofcourse :O
 

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Puppet said:
Without any proof I would guess more Hibs play alts because we can do TOA and ML's in 3 days with 17 animists and have all our arti's up to lvl 10.

According to Mids ofcourse :O


yeh but then you all back in 3 days - where as mids will still be trying to do stuff and yawn giving up and yawm omg we failed ML1!!!!
 

Jeimas

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I'd say it's the glory days that come back to haunt ya'll. I wouldn't say 1 fg of friends (or opted group, gank squads, whatever name fits the fg) is exactly a new thing. Well this has for quite some time excluded new people who weren't already High RR, wrong/too low ML, didn't have the right arthifacts, wrong spec, you name it. If it hadn't been for this, you'd prolly still had more people to cope with the changes that were brought in NF.

Maybe now it's time to invite that random fella who's only lvl 43 with his/her first char out in rvr/into guild. Start including people instead of excluding them cause they're the wrong char, not optimized, not in your guild, whatever.

To me NF more or less turned into the good old frontiere where one could go out and do some RvR no matter what level, why not treat it like that, instead of overly focusing on RPs are God? Personally I left mid 'cause of all the optimized groups that were running from mid. Couldn't be aresed to respec, re equip, remake a char and have a set schedule to do RvR. To me DAoC is a game, and I didn't want to turn it into a part-time job. When I get home from my real job I want to relax, have some fun etc, not stress to rush to some preset stuff I HAVE to go through to be able to tag along with the others.

Elitism will kill any overall joy in the long run, eventually backfiring, especially if the elitism is among your own ranks, and even more so if there's an aboundance of it. Oh well I enjoy Albion now, where I don't have the constant stress hanging over my head everytime I log in.
 

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Old.Ilum said:
Can't we just go back to the basics? Normal good old roaming RvR and the odd relic raid every once in a blue moon....

sounds like Camlann
 

Zapsi

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Puppet said:
Without any proof I would guess more Hibs play alts because we can do TOA and ML's in 3 days with 17 animists and have all our arti's up to lvl 10.

According to Mids ofcourse :O

2 chars to 50 full toa sc with sash tart cs etc and ml 3 in 12 days now wouldnt try that without animist btw no PL.
 

Animus

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Old.Ilum said:
They don't bring anything to the table? :eek:

As far as ranged attacks go, a runemaster is better than any other class. Access to the bes spec dd, access to bolts, access to debuff nukes, access to nearsight. What else do you want?

How about spec points enough to spec it all then? If we spec bolts / debuff nuke, we cant spec nearsight and spec dd. If we spec for the "best spec dd" we cant spec for bolts and debuff nukes along with nearsight. Evenso we only get a blue (iirc?) nearsight on either spec. Please, play the class before you start rambling shit.
 

DaggerElivager

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i hate when people say that some class is the best cos they got all these different amazing abilities etc. its bullshit. Most class cant spec in enough things to get all those amazing abilities, especially ones like runemasters.

maybe some classes can but i know for a fact as it has been my main char that you cant get everything ubah and high lvl.
 

feril

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ok stats dont lie but the true thing is that when i do /who all i find about 200+ mids on primetime and maybee about 20-25% of them are BB's for all our stealthers and others. 100 of them are playing RvR. Of that 100 are 50%++ stealthers. (i do understand thous that are play stealthers in NF. its more fun today, if you se the big picture today)..

I think the class balance is fair if they did all spells like say hmm.. Mezz on the same range for all realms. the same with stun,dd,LT and so on.. sure you will prolly say that the Healer is OP. but when all CC ect. are on the same range the true util will came forward.

alb CC'er, got QC mids dont BUT got chain and so on. its just my opinion on the RvR part. (its a shame that a mid CC must spec in 2lines (cc/heal).. tbh the CC instas arent that good. a 44pac got AEmezz and AEstun of 150radius!! on 1500range. Sorc 350-400radius depens on spec and 1875range(?). the hibby has the same AEmezz that a healer has, but i doubt that he specs lower than 47 so he gets the full benefit of a CC. sure its a insta but when u can cast that insta you will prolly only get 2 in that cc and the sorc like QC mezz 3sec ago.

then the ml,artixp and so.. /delete on all petspammers or give all realms the same benefits. (no offence to all the spammers outthere).

//Silvermate
 

Animus

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Let me just correct myself tho :p
Debuff nuke and spec dd is in same line, but still..
Give 50% cold debuff in spec dd line ^^
 

Bone_Idle

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Animists can debuff their own spec bomber nuke with a baseline body debuff bomber.

Its just people expect us to shroom all the time. :(
 

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Bone_Idle said:
Animists can debuff their own spec bomber nuke with a baseline body debuff bomber.
That hardly seemed to be worth the bother imo, most of the times you wouldn't get enough bombers out after it to deal more damage than using a regular bomber in the first place would've done.
 

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Zapsi said:
2 chars to 50 full toa sc with sash tart cs etc and ml 3 in 12 days now wouldnt try that without animist btw no PL.


Can PL to 50 as fast on red-caps in Moderna as Mid. Non PL'ing I would guess Mid chars level as fast as Hib ones; argueably even faster with AE-stun and PBAE. Obtaining artifacts well it takes ABIT more trouble but be reasonable: 80% of the artifacts you honestly dont *NEED* an animist to do it with less then 2fg. I did Danos with 1fg without animists during the beginning on TOA. (I just gotten FOP on Puppet)

Im pretty sure if u are dedicated on Midgard as u where on Hibernia (coz u where) u can do the same in about the same time on Midgard. Most time is really the levelling of artifacts; and thats something an animist doesnt exactly help due to the XP-drain of the shrooms.
 

Yma

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How much time and people it takes you to do 8.10 in Hibernia ?
 

Zapsi

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Puppet said:
Can PL to 50 as fast on red-caps in Moderna as Mid. Non PL'ing I would guess Mid chars level as fast as Hib ones; argueably even faster with AE-stun and PBAE. Obtaining artifacts well it takes ABIT more trouble but be reasonable: 80% of the artifacts you honestly dont *NEED* an animist to do it with less then 2fg. I did Danos with 1fg without animists during the beginning on TOA. (I just gotten FOP on Puppet)

Im pretty sure if u are dedicated on Midgard as u where on Hibernia (coz u where) u can do the same in about the same time on Midgard. Most time is really the levelling of artifacts; and thats something an animist doesnt exactly help due to the XP-drain of the shrooms.

Hmmm animist is big help xping on alot of artifacts gov sash ms ctr all takes a 1/3 in hib to get to lvl 10 the penalty of pets when xping doesnt really count much when u pull high red purple mobs. Also dont forget about scrolls that can be farm so much easyer. We did 4½ hour to lvl staff of God to lvl 10 ani druid eld now I wonder how u do that in mid or even close to it, doubt any seer in mid has his staff lvl 10. Just so many artifact u can xp afk in hib if u got fop + ani all u need is to hold the damm key in with something, not to mention the spots u cant even die coz los, like killing mobs in water while u stand save on land shrooming.

Most can be done fg in mid but u need a good group not something everybody can make easy, compared to finding 2 ani + fop and something.
 

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Dont cry mids , Mythic is already made your new oneshoting class again to fit your well know skill. Warlock will be here soon just stop the QQ.

booohoo we cant oneshot people anymore boohooo, we cant kill 23864t2846 with one fg booohoooo!! people hide in keeps we cba to retake booohooo there are petspam all over booohoooo. But we enjoyed loads of instas, loads of insta kills with zergkers, insta kills with savages, Bonedancers and all the shit midgard had no competition untill NF.

When the compatition evens the al mighty mids start the QQ, and mithyc set up the new "toy" to calm them down.

p.s Hey Remi, have you already done the template for your Warlock?
 

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Vermillon said:
When the compatition evens the al mighty mids start the QQ, and mithyc set up the new "toy" to calm them down.

I´m not so sure you´ve noticed, but the all-mighty-mids (high rr etc) have mostly left. It´s us that never pwned anything that is still here, just normal players that want to have fun. Low-rr, gimp-classes, gimp-equipment, semi-skilled. Stop talking to the elitisist, thank you. I´m not one, will never have the endurance or time to become one.

Never totally pwned anyone, in OF or in NF. Will probably not even pwn anyone with my future warlock aswell (if I stay active that long, ie 4-6 months).

Competition evens.. have you even seen the stats for last-week rp´s for each realm?

And as said before in this thread - it is not only happening on Prydwen, it´s happening on almost every server. But sure, continue your "QQ! YOUR F*CKING TURN, W*NKERS!" if you find it amusing and if you think that will help the situation.

The fact that I can make over 70k last-week-rp´s with my totally gimp, non-equipped hunter shows how much range means in the current state of the game.

And when somebody says that we should have the upper-hand when enemy actually enter a keep/tower - sure, firstly, try to make those tank even stay online til that happens, and not be bored to their teeth while waiting, or getting themselves killed while running outside before the enemy strikes. Then, try to gather more than 1-2 healers to a keep/tower-defence, to keep them alive during the constant onslaught of 20+ scouts volleying and when the reaver-bomb strikes. And try to get those SM´s that are actually playing to spec suppression (for pbaoe), when the only spec that actually give them something to work with when it comes to other situation than keep/tower-defence is darkness. My wife still has her SM specced suppression, she´s among quite few of them. I even saw the guy with the last name TrainedinSuppression change spec. And if you got no healers actively playing (or close to none) it´s not that strange that those SM´s that are playing are speccing in the line that gives them lifedrain.

I actually got an encouraging mail from a hib for one of my posts in this thread, which made me feel abit more entusiastic about the future, when someone from one of the "other sides" actually understands what I write and what we mids try to explain to you guys. Feels good that normal players actually seems to read whats being written and not only high-RR albs/hibs that scream "ADAPT F00000ls!" as soon as a mid tries to relay his side of the story.

Try to look outside your own little private sphere for once, if not, out of the respect for the people thats only trying to get their side of the story heard.

// The totally always PWNING Thane
 

Yma

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Chances of the warlock surviving the megawhines = 0%, we're the underpopulated realm worldwide, we bring less money to Mythic pockets. I wouldn't be worried, if I was you.

And if that's not enough, be sure that GoA will do night shifts to patch it fast, not like 1.71.
 

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