Where is Midgard on Prydwen going ?

[xxManiacxx]

well said Wholdar

Edit: And about the uber warlock. Yeah he can take out one! person fast as hell but then his chambers are out and is near useless for quite some time.
Compare that to the sorc who can take out 4-5? ppl in 1 pow bar?

Warlock will be most welcome in keep defences where he can unload his chambers and recast them safe and sound.

 

[Bubble]

Warlocks will probley be nerfed by the time we see them
The Ability to Outright kill any class in the game instantly is OP no matter what you say. Myself if i even manage to mez it in time, will not bother breaking my own mez if i see 3 Orbs Above its head When they splash out 5 RA points on purge i think i'll stop soloing

Sorc's can kill 4 or 5 people with there powerbar just like runies can kill 8 at least along with firewizards.


Oh crap a warlock whine

 

[fungus]

alb CC'er, got QC mids dont BUT got chain and so on. its just my opinion on the RvR part. (its a shame that a mid CC must spec in 2lines (cc/heal).. tbh the CC instas arent that good. a 44pac got AEmezz and AEstun of 150radius!! on 1500range. Sorc 350-400radius depens on spec and 1875range(?). the hibby has the same AEmezz that a healer has, but i doubt that he specs lower than 47 so he gets the full benefit of a CC. sure its a insta but when u can cast that insta you will prolly only get 2 in that cc and the sorc like QC mezz 3sec ago.
//Silvermate

get your facts straight:

dont compare casted sorc mezz 2 instant healer/bard mezz

healer castable AEmezz 1500 range 350 Area
bard Castable AEmezz 1500 range 350 Area
sorc Castable mezz 1875 range 400 Area.

i agree though sorc is best mezzer ingame; specially on a QC 400+ dex caster.

 

[Yma]

The Ability to Outright kill any class in the game instantly

BS, but that's exactly the kind of BS that will cause the big warlock nerf.

 

[Bubble]

get your facts straight:

dont compare casted sorc mezz 2 instant healer/bard mezz

healer castable AEmezz 1500 range 350 Area
bard Castable AEmezz 1500 range 350 Area
sorc Castable mezz 1875 range 400 Area.

i agree though sorc is best mezzer ingame; specially on a QC 400+ dex caster.

I'll trade my Crappy 3 second cast time Quickcast for your Insta AoE Lul? (Quickcast is uneffected by Dex, my normaly casting time is Half that of my quickcast...yeah i know what your thinking..)
We make up for having the best Cast mez by not having any insta Crowd control.

 

[Bubble]

BS, but that's exactly the kind of BS that will cause the big warlock nerf.

Firing 3 chambers (4 seconds insta cast with no interuptions) will not do 2k damage? the fotm spec on the US servers allows that sort of damage.

 

[Dorin]

We make up for having the best Cast mez by not having any insta Crowd control.

no.

 

[Vermillon]

1. I´m not so sure you´ve noticed, but the all-mighty-mids (high rr etc) have mostly left. It´s us that never pwned anything that is still here, just normal players that want to have fun. Low-rr, gimp-classes, gimp-equipment, semi-skilled. Stop talking to the elitisist, thank you. I´m not one, will never have the endurance or time to become one.

2. Never totally pwned anyone, in OF or in NF. Will probably not even pwn anyone with my future warlock aswell (if I stay active that long, ie 4-6 months).

3. Competition evens.. have you even seen the stats for last-week rp´s for each realm?

4. And as said before in this thread - it is not only happening on Prydwen, it´s happening on almost every server. But sure, continue your "QQ! YOUR F*CKING TURN, W*NKERS!" if you find it amusing and if you think that will help the situation.

5. The fact that I can make over 70k last-week-rp´s with my totally gimp, non-equipped hunter shows how much range means in the current state of the game.

6. I actually got an encouraging mail from a hib for one of my posts in this thread, which made me feel abit more entusiastic about the future, when someone from one of the "other sides" actually understands what I write and what we mids try to explain to you guys. Feels good that normal players actually seems to read whats being written and not only high-RR albs/hibs that scream "ADAPT F00000ls!" as soon as a mid tries to relay his side of the story.

7. Try to look outside your own little private sphere for once, if not, out of the respect for the people thats only trying to get their side of the story heard.

1. I´m not so sure you´ve noticed but most of the old high rr albs/rvr guilds have gone or weakened. I dont play normal rvr my self either, just in thidranki some times.

2. As it happpens with the majority of the casual alb and hib players. Not everyone plays to pwn. But whenever there is a overpowered class all those "caual players" roll it.

3. Is not Albs/Hibs problem if mids cant play without an advantage. Whenever you look back in history you will find mids having something more, in form of a class or bug. And not only for short period like Necro LoS and Bard sinlge insta lul.

4. I'm doing exaclty what you mids done for all this time to others when a Hib/Alb tried to start a convarsation about such things. For example, check out Remi's single line retared replys to everyone. The man never said anything more than 3 words.

5. The only thing that mids have shorter range than Albs is mezz. You got bolts like others too, plus you have at least blue nearshigt on the bolt spec.
And that has nothing to do with the rps you gain with your hunter compared to your Thain, as it is same when you compair a scout or ranger with paladin and champion.

6. Daoc always does this, someone is better than others during periods. You had your "period" to be better the last 2 years. Now is Hibs or Alb time i dont realy know or care.

7. I only care for my side of the story? Well yes, after 2 years mids ask for our comfort and understanding, when they QQ us every time we talked about imbalance, and gloated about their "great deeds" agianst the random albs at amg/E. Killing 4-5 fg even when randoms with only 1 fg mids, was blance and skill for you? Do you realy belive it was your skill that made you able to do such things? Do you?

Dont warry Warlock will be here soon for you and all will be back to normal for mids again, oneshoting etc.

 

[Bubble]

no.

No?
Show me the 1500 range insta cast 300 Radius Mez? I can't find it on my spell list.

 

[Vermillon]

well said Wholdar

Edit: And about the uber warlock. Yeah he can take out one! person fast as hell but then his chambers are out and is near useless for quite some time.
Compare that to the sorc who can take out 4-5? ppl in 1 pow bar?

Warlock will be most welcome in keep defences where he can unload his chambers and recast them safe and sound.

Exactly what Daoc is after NF, constand keep retake/defence. Warlock is a class specialy designed for that. Load, aim, oneshot, hide behind batlement, reload, oneshot, hide behind batlement, reload etc etc

 

[Dorin]

No?
Show me the 1500 range insta cast 300 Radius Mez? I can't find it on my spell list.

Who said you have it? (and why the fook would you need any insta on sorceror ? t_t) never felt the need of it and i bet it just gets better on higher RR.

Originally Posted by Bubble
We make up for having the best Cast mez by not having any insta Crowd control.

feck insta cast 300 radius mezz when you cast 400 radius mezz under 1.x sec from 2k range tbh, i bet you find it fair. i dont But its fun if you are playing a sorc ofc, can sign that Especially when you can solo (ok newbies mabeh, but still) loads of ppl

Oh Vermillion you can be proud of yourself, you arent acting any better then Remish, if this was the goal of yours... CONGRATULATIONS!

 

[Wholdar]

Do you realy belive it was your skill that made you able to do such things? Do you?

Just this comment shows you havent understood a word I wrote.
Keep your sunglasses on, mr RR10 Paladin.

And have fun in Thidranki.

/j

 

[mhael]

I'll trade my Crappy 3 second cast time Quickcast for your Insta AoE Lul? (Quickcast is uneffected by Dex, my normaly casting time is Half that of my quickcast...yeah i know what your thinking..)
We make up for having the best Cast mez by not having any insta Crowd control.

I would trade my uber insta 150 radius mezz for your bolt range 400 (or 350 radius as I probably wouldn't be able to get the last version) radius ae mezz even if I didn't get qc. Heck I think I could even give you my overpowered (yeah right ) 150 radius insta stun too. CCing in NF with the lag, the many keepfights (where insta cc is close to useless) and things like mezz feedback with a 150 radius insta mezz on a 10m timer is nothing compared to a bolt range mezz with a 400 unit radius on a high dex class.

 

[charmangle]

Unfortunatly...

Exactly what Daoc is after NF, constand keep retake/defence. Warlock is a class specialy designed for that. Load, aim, oneshot, hide behind batlement, reload, oneshot, hide behind batlement, reload etc etc

Just a short response to all those that refere to 1.71/catacombs/warlocks

Its not the light in the tunnel for midgard. Its just more of the same darkness. After 1.5 months of catacombs/warlock and longer of 1.71 in the US. There is still not a single relic that has been captured by any midgard realm. Thats saying alot. Since the first week of NF there hasnt been a single midgardian owned relic at any time on any server for over a half a year...think about it...has the situation ever been that bad for any Realm for that long ? (No relic at all on any server for more than half a year ?)

/Charmangle

 

[Vermillon]

Just this comment shows you havent understood a word I wrote.
Keep your sunglasses on, mr RR10 Paladin.

And have fun in Thidranki.

/j

Dont have any illusions about what i understand. Is just you dont like the truth i wrote. In fact i agree that the problem exist, but dont expect me to feel sorry about mids. That what i said.

Thidranki is fun, it reminds me how pure the game was before long time ago. That was the Daoc i loved, thats why i like Thid and that is only my busyness.

 

[mhael]

5. The only thing that mids have shorter range than Albs is mezz. You got bolts like others too, plus you have at least blue nearshigt on the bolt spec.
And that has nothing to do with the rps you gain with your hunter compared to your Thain, as it is same when you compair a scout or ranger with paladin and champion.

Ye, it is not like hunters have shorter range than rangers and scouts is it?

 

[charmangle]

Sorry ? Who is talking about feeling sorry...

Dont have any illusions about what i understand. Is just you dont like the truth i wrote. In fact i agree that the problem exist, but dont expect me to feel sorry about mids. That what i said.

Thidranki is fun, it reminds me how pure the game was before long time ago. That was the Daoc i loved, thats why i like Thid and that is only my busyness.

We are talking about information and what will come, not pity. Due to the current state of the game this will happen since there is already a prejudicate on this:

1. Midgard falls into a drop circle...more people drop out since there is no people to play with etc.

2. Not more than 5-7 midgardians in the frontiers prime time. (This is the same as no rps for albs/hibs)

3. Hibs starts going the same way less and less people since the oposition becomes to great when they loose shrooms and midgards to help with the assault.

4. Albs are left alone in the rvr zones.

5. 2006 Mythic/Goa hast lost 70% of its player base and implements the fixes to this problem in hope that it will bring back players so that the realm wars can continue...or the game is rebuilt into another kind of balance. (Who knows there are only vague hints to something big)

I dont see how this is a cry for help for midgard. It is just information about how it will look the next comming year...(unless something drastically change from the US servers which i doubt)

/charmangle

 

[Tuppe]

Chances of the warlock surviving the megawhines = 0%, we're the underpopulated realm worldwide, we bring less money to Mythic pockets. I wouldn't be worried, if I was you.

And if that's not enough, be sure that GoA will do night shifts to patch it fast, not like 1.71.

heh, must agree, and laugh ass off when read goas response why not immediatly patched to 1.71, BECAUSE CUSTOMER DIDNT WANT IT.
hmm all posts i read here was, we want 1.71 immediatly, not 1.70! or did albs post some different emails to goa?

hmm yesterday ~1100 on prydwen and 220 mids, in near 3 years playing period never personally seen mids so low numbers

whining how mids own all 2 years? and now is us time to suffer.
if situation indeed was this? how albs and hibs never got rp:s? eclipse? pe? sotl? ring any bells?, or did some of albs who post here never played when sotl own left and right?
dunno sotl situation now but old days sotl alert nemesis alliance and prolly whole realm when they enter mid frontier.

 

[Vermillon]

Oh Vermillion you can be proud of yourself, you arent acting any better then Remish, if this was the goal of yours... CONGRATULATIONS!

Is hard to hear the truth hun, especialy when the things turn against you. I understand your bitterness. But what you said about me doesnt answer or deni what i said. So you chose to attack my personality and accept what i said is truth, or you cant prove i'm wrong and have no other but attack my personality?

 

[Wholdar]

Dont have any illusions about what i understand..

No illusions, it was obvious with that comment.
Good that you´re having fun. =)

 

[Bubble]

I would trade my uber insta 150 radius mezz for your bolt range 400 (or 350 radius as I probably wouldn't be able to get the last version) radius ae mezz even if I didn't get qc. Heck I think I could even give you my overpowered (yeah right ) 150 radius insta stun too. CCing in NF with the lag, the many keepfights (where insta cc is close to useless) and things like mezz feedback with a 150 radius insta mezz on a 10m timer is nothing compared to a bolt range mezz with a 400 unit radius on a high dex class.

You wouldn't want to see a sorc with a Stun (/em dreams of a 11 second Single target stun)
My mez range is 2016

 

[Vermillon]

No illusions, it was obvious with that comment.
Good that you´re having fun. =)

Same tactick as Dorin. Attack me isntead of proving wrong what i said. Obviously because what i said is truth.

btw i havent made any personal insult to you, i only disagree with what you said. What are you follow that shceme? Is easy to throw insults about others inteligens.

 

[mhael]

well said Wholdar

Edit: And about the uber warlock. Yeah he can take out one! person fast as hell but then his chambers are out and is near useless for quite some time.
Compare that to the sorc who can take out 4-5? ppl in 1 pow bar?

Warlock will be most welcome in keep defences where he can unload his chambers and recast them safe and sound.

Wholdar is cute.

Warlock is not what this game needs. The same goes for sorcs, animists, insta bomb killing ála reavers and lots of other stuff. I can't understand why mythic keeps improving the damage all the time because killing stuff has never been the problem. The problem has been that it takes 30 mins to get a group together, another 30 mins to find a fight and then you die in under 10 secs.

So what they should have done is to make it easier to make groups. So that all classes would bring something good to a group. Instead they make classes like sorcs (that already had a use) even better so a group can't play without them while they neglect a class like armsman.

They did try to make it easier to find and reach fights in NF atleast.

Fights last longer? No. Keeptakes last longer? Yes. Was there anyone asking for more and longer keepfights? No. Did people ask for longer and more fun fights? Yes. So what should they have done? They should have lowered the damage in RvR by a lot.

 

[Bhalage]

1 minute silence for midgard..

...

thanks.

can we move on now pls?

 

[Bubble]

NF is a caster/archer boost patch
Your runies probley are really enjoying themselfs too (As well as Bonedancers )
I've seen the hibs run a good Melee group, it totaly ate our caster group (Evil Wou)

 

[Wholdar]

btw i havent made any personal insult to you, i only disagree with what you said. What are you follow that shceme? Is easy to throw insults about others inteligens.

No insult about intelligence.

I CLEARLY stated stuff about semi-skills and NOT BEING ABLE TO PWN anything. I hoped that would TAKE AWAY the gankgroups from the discussions, since they are only a very low % of the actual amount of mids.

But no.. that still came up. The people the game are losing now is NOT the people that wiped 4-5-10-20 fgs of albs at any amg. THEY HAVE ALREADY LEFT (most of them).

But still.. you manage it to come out as I (and all the other mids that are trying as heck to compete in the RvR today, without healers or any decent cc around, or any good option to try to level MLs/get arties/level artis on alts because of low population, heck, haven´t even managed to kill the dragon or an erinys raid these last few week) were part of those gankgroups and gloated in whoevers face about it.

I don´t care about it, and frankly I don´t care about all the Reaver-groups thats out now doing it. I care about that one (soon perhaps two) realms in the game ARE DYING! DISAPPEARING! SOON GONE! And I try to picture this for you guys here in this forum - not that we can do much about it.

But STILL, you go on about 10 fgs getting wiped somewhere, and Remish being an arse on the forums.

The game is NOW losing all the randoms, the people that play for fun more than to pwn. I´m quite sure that alb doesnt have that problem - because of the numbers. I´m also quite sure that hib´s part of the problem isnt as great, because of the über-community they have been able to develop. I truly envy them.

This is what this whole thread is about, and my posts aswell. You CLEARLY didnt understand that. Perhaps you read other stuff into it, or you were in a bad mood - I DONT CARE. I NEVER made a comment about your intelligence, I just noticed that you hadn´t understood what I wrote. And left it at that.

I am very happy though that you find it fun to be in thidranki. I´ve also got sevreral mid-friends that finds it fun to borrow chars from Alb/Hib and trying them out. I feel truly glad that they are enjoying themselves - BUT IT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE REALMS IS DYING. Neither does 30 fg´s dieng at amg 6 months ago!

Ok?

/j - gonna happily try out WoW-FB when it arrives in a few days, but won´t leave midgard yet, still having fun once in a while.

 

[Etzel]

Show me the 1500 range insta cast 300 Radius Mez? I can't find it on my spell list.

I used to have that spell a long time ago, in the days of open warfare, no TOA and MOC PBAE groups. It makes you a true one trick pony, crap instas, crap healing, crap buffs, the only other redeeming feature back then was crack 5 but thats superfluous now with FoP.

Yes those instas were once one of the most overpowered spells in the game, now the only valid use for that spec is a Modernagrav PL bot.

 

[Derric]

Jajaja, mids got nothing good, all totally suck and can't try do anything in any way, so just give up and stop whining.

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

The thing is even if alb dont have the upper hand in op stuff, they allways have the numbers to fight with.

And the fact that mid suffer most in nf is bcoz mid was/is mostly build on tanks. Im not sure about albs but i think that over time have been like 50/50 (?) and hibs well that is the caster realm .

And to be onest i think Goa need to take a look on the underdog realm,
have been looking on the numbers between mid and hib the last nights and they have been pretty much the same 1 night hib has 10-30 more the other mid has.

 

[mhael]

You wouldn't want to see a sorc with a Stun (/em dreams of a 11 second Single target stun)
My mez range is 2016

That was however not what I said and not what you said earlier either.

I'll trade my Crappy 3 second cast time Quickcast for your Insta AoE Lul? (Quickcast is uneffected by Dex, my normaly casting time is Half that of my quickcast...yeah i know what your thinking..)
We make up for having the best Cast mez by not having any insta Crowd control.

What you said was that a 26s, 150 radius, 1500 (1650) range, 10m reuse timer insta ae mezz and a 9s, 150 radius, 1500 (1650) range, 10m reuse timer insta ae stun (because that is what a healer will have) was equal to a 350/400 radius, 1875 (2062) range 1.2s castable ae mezz.

I said that I am rather hit by ~12s mezz and ~4s stun that gave me cc immunity than a ~40s mezz that could be used to keep interrupting me at a range that is 400+ units more than my own.