Where is Midgard on Prydwen going ?

[Dumle]

And another totally clueless one comes to the table...

TBH mids are finaly getting there just due's i remeber just pre ToA and 90% of ToA before NF arrived i couldnt get more then 3 min out from APK without being steamrolled by 2+ fg's of mids with more camping amg.

BOOO FUCKING HOOO, did you adapt, no you QQd til your eyes bled Im sure, you R*#%&()() M))(/%/&R...

Mids got it hard now HO FUCKING RAY tbh alb have had it hard but HIBS have had it the hardest they have had to fight hard every inch of the way for the last 3 year's.

Well keep screaming HOOO FUCKING RAY when all you have left to fight is a shroomzerg in a keep somewhere, you are so bright it almost hurts my eyes, you think that the only ones that will suffer from mids quitting 99% are mids? LOOOOL!!! you are so R/%&/%D it hurts my mind.

Mids are no longer instant win yay yes its now not even either but gues what thats life, soon the battlefeilds will be more even with the soon up and comming nerf's (balences as mythic call them)

As they call them? LOL, have you any clue of the game? sorry for asking, its quite apparent you have not

Ok so you are finding it hard with the mass loss of players all realms did for a while most have found a way to adapt. im not saying mids havnt tryed but tbh you need to TRY harder. OK you moan about alb numbers and hibs shrooms but end of the day the shrooms build up the numbers for the hibs to = proportions. Mids just need to get the whole realm to help with there objectives like alb has done in OF RvR guilds would rarley help with main alb objectives but now they will help acheive any objective the whole realm goes for they dont like running in the zerg but will assist as it benifits the realm and have adapted there play styles to that. The mid RvR guilds needed to do the same but they didnt they stuck to the OF way of life and died. Thats what they get for not being flexiable and unfortunatly this attitude as you mids stated yourselves has hurt the realm in a large way. In time Mid will recover and soon be back out in RvR and killing there far share of the enamy realms.

Finding it hard with the mass losses? Does Alb have roughly 60-100 players when done /who all primetime? Guess not so S to the T to the F to the U

Try this on for a size retard.
Albs need 6 ppl for a ML/Arti encounter, Mid would need 40.
GET A FUCKING CLUE YOU RETARDED MOTHERFUCKER!!!


Did you see what I did there?

This is what my post could look like If I
A.) Didnt bother to read the whole thread of a discussion I wanted to take part in.
B.) Was a bit slow so I couldnt understand what I was reading.
C.) Was totally oblivious to what was happening on servers all over the world and didnt care that the game was completely dying out.

Please man, before you try and be witty in a discussion atleast tryyyyy to read a bit so you not make a complete fool of yourself ok?

You will find answers to all your statements already posted in this thread and I will not bother to even reply to them because you will not bother to read.
When you care about anything other than your own realm owning everything please come to this discussion. But since you care not at all about the fact that if noting is done this game will be over and gone within a year/year and a half I have to respectfully say FO and go to bed.

PS. You are a joke, crawl under a rock and stay there please. Happy new year

 

[Martok]

And another totally clueless one comes to the table...



BOOO FUCKING HOOO, did you adapt, no you QQd til your eyes bled Im sure, you R*#%&()() M))(/%/&R...



Well keep screaming HOOO FUCKING RAY when all you have left to fight is a shroomzerg in a keep somewhere, you are so bright it almost hurts my eyes, you think that the only ones that will suffer from mids quitting 99% are mids? LOOOOL!!! you are so R/%&/%D it hurts my mind.



As they call them? LOL, have you any clue of the game? sorry for asking, its quite apparent you have not




Finding it hard with the mass losses? Does Alb have roughly 60-100 players when done /who all primetime? Guess not so S to the T to the F to the U

Try this on for a size retard.
Albs need 6 ppl for a ML/Arti encounter, Mid would need 40.
GET A FUCKING CLUE YOU RETARDED MOTHERFUCKER!!!


Did you see what I did there?

This is what my post could look like If I
A.) Didnt bother to read the whole thread of a discussion I wanted to take part in.
B.) Was a bit slow so I couldnt understand what I was reading.
C.) Was totally oblivious to what was happening on servers all over the world and didnt care that the game was completely dying out.

Please man, before you try and be witty in a discussion atleast tryyyyy to read a bit so you not make a complete fool of yourself ok?

You will find answers to all your statements already posted in this thread and I will not bother to even reply to them because you will not bother to read.
When you care about anything other than your own realm owning everything please come to this discussion. But since you care not at all about the fact that if noting is done this game will be over and gone within a year/year and a half I have to respectfully say FO and go to bed.

PS. You are a joke, crawl under a rock and stay there please. Happy new year

lol its too late to fucking edit your whole post and yes i have read all the previous coment's.

1) Yes alb when comes to PvE is alot easyer then mid i never said it wasnt
2) ALB is not owning everything but for 1st time in a long time is working as a whole realm.
3) because i dont userly whine alot on the forums but i do always read the thread's but 90% are to pathetic to even respond to qq this qq that ect ect i userly ignore them but this thread i just needed to voice my opinions dont like it then STFU and FO.
4) was a post from my point of veiw dont agree with it fine thats your liberty as is it mine to think as i think.
5) im not a clueless n00b just because i aint no large shot RvR player who spam's the forums does not mean this what so ever as i cant talk from a mid point of veiw i have to try and explaine my exeriances best i can and my observation's.
6) I do see whats happening to the server i do see whats happening to the activness of mid and if you read my post i say you will have to do a hib and get everyone together ones in a while and try to get a large attack going. so what mid dont have the numbers or pet spammers but mid does have the know how and the skilled players.

qq me flame me do what ya like but said what i wnated to say now ill just read the rest of the comments as i userly do.

Oh and Happy New Year

 

[Eroda]

With regards to a pet class, mid does need one really if nothing more than to make ML's more tolerable. I can imagine its extremely frustrating needing so many people for them especially after you've done it all on 1 char already.

I've found the amount of keep takes etc has started to settle down a bit too now and saw a fair few roaming groups out even in the early hours yesterday. I actually prefer NF alot more, the terrain is much more fun to fight around imo and also theres lots more to do for the casual player who fancies a quick hour of fun in the frontier. I dont think the balance between realms is actually that bad now either, at least ive seen groups from all 3 realms being able to beat each other but i dont really like serious rvr atm so hard for me to judge this.

Seems to be alot of complaints about wizards lately too, i agree the bolt damage is totally silly at times but thats all they do basically when it comes down to it -bolt bolt nuke nuke, it gets dull fast. I'd quite happily take a cut in damage to get even a grey NS in the earth line, wizard utility is pretty dire on the most part.

 

[toxii]

I was writing a rather long and tedious note as reply to a thread here and got to thinking…

That thought ended up here in this thread.

Where is Midgard heading ?
While I read through these threads I see a lot of: “Midgard get organized and QQ!”, “Haha Midgard now you know how we felt it in Emain”, etc.

As a Midgardian I can only say that these are good points…we should get even more organized, and Hibs have had a pain trying to roam Emain with 150+ mids there serging anything in sight or savage groups eating 20+ Albs or Hibs.

What ever your opinion is that Midgard deserve a bit of low period or not, I would still like to enlighten the Alb and Hib community to why there is a mass exodus from Midgard and why you see a lot of Midgardians complaining (whining if you will).

First I have to say that Midgard is still a great "open field"-rvr realm. But what has happened with NF is that its all about keeps/towers/relics. And when it comes to that we are seriously lacking in viable options. There are a lot of discussions going around about this. But I still believe that all of us understand and can agree on one thing. The petspamming/range classes make up a huge part of keep takes and keep defending.
Hibs are great at defending keeps with their animists and Albs rock at taking keeps with their range/pets etc. Mids have it hard trying to compete with this…and this has created a frustration with a big part of the player bases in Midgard. And with the more usefulness of Scouts/theurge/animists/firewizzes etc ranged classes, follows a formidable surge in these classes and this only builds the frustration with the Midgard community.
Midgard has lost a lot of its player base since WoW/NF and this has made it very hard for us to complete raids like ML/Dragon or Relic. And since Midgard need more people to do these than both Alb/Hib this is bad.

So what is the point of this thread then? Well, in Midgard a vicious circle has started. It’s the same development as in the states. Where a lot of Midgards population has left due to this frustration either to WoW or to Albion/Hib. This in turn has made it hard to pull together raids etc and those who still play gather in close friends groups (1fg roaming or raiding) meaning that new players gets no place to be and find themselves leaving too. Those of us who organize raids etc try to keep the spirit up but its getting harder and harder with every failed raid and we loose more and more people. I would like to stop the same thing that has happened to all the Midgard servers in the US to happen here, but I don’t know how.
There will not be any change for Midgard for at least a year or so and I doubt that we will survive that long. So the question goes out to all…especially Albs and Hibs…are there any ideas of what to do to save Prydwen/Midgard from dying? (Catacombs/Clustering of servers will do little to help this problem it seems from tests)

Somehow its always been my belief that the truly great thing about daoc is that there is Realm wars. Where there are 3 parts that counteracts with each other. If one of these parts goes away, it would be a major setback in my opinion towards the idea of playing the game. I would be in the same state of mind if this was happening to any of the three realms.

/Charmangle

Ps: Since I love NF but despice beeing a raidleader but not enough people to finish the raids, Im beginning to dispair myself...actually doubting that mid or even daoc will survive 2005. There aren’t 1 or 2 guilds in Albland who want to migrate to Midgard to even out the scores ? I for one would welcome you! ds.

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couldnt resist , my 'q' got stuck ;<

happy new year

 

[Dumle]

lol its too late to fucking edit your whole post and yes i have read all the previous coment's.

1) Yes alb when comes to PvE is alot easyer then mid i never said it wasnt
2) ALB is not owning everything but for 1st time in a long time is working as a whole realm.
3) because i dont userly whine alot on the forums but i do always read the thread's but 90% are to pathetic to even respond to qq this qq that ect ect i userly ignore them but this thread i just needed to voice my opinions dont like it then STFU and FO.
4) was a post from my point of veiw dont agree with it fine thats your liberty as is it mine to think as i think.
5) im not a clueless n00b just because i aint no large shot RvR player who spam's the forums does not mean this what so ever as i cant talk from a mid point of veiw i have to try and explaine my exeriances best i can and my observation's.
6) I do see whats happening to the server i do see whats happening to the activness of mid and if you read my post i say you will have to do a hib and get everyone together ones in a while and try to get a large attack going. so what mid dont have the numbers or pet spammers but mid does have the know how and the skilled players.

qq me flame me do what ya like but said what i wnated to say now ill just read the rest of the comments as i userly do.

You said nothing even remote to that mate, if you had put it like you did just now I wouldnt even have flinched.

What you said was basically, OMG I love how mids stand no chance in any aspect of the game and I dont care that they are going extinct, read your own post and try to interpret it otherwise ok m8
It was basically a big gloat about how humourous you found it that mids suffered and were totally outdone.
Remember, the mids that owned you over and over have mostly quit, the mids that got owned bad even in OF by alb and hib GGs are the ones that are left behind.
Difference is in OF we could possibly kill one or two before we got wiped if we got lucky.

Mids dont have the numbers and may have the know how, that doesnt matter as mid success is largely based on numbers atm.
To be successful in RvR you need MLs/Artis/Zergs...
We can NOT do this, to do MLs we need 5X or more the numbers of albs/hibs, we need to adapt yes but a large part of adapting means rolling new classes right? That is not possible if you can not A.Exp them B.Do MLs and artis on them.
Please roll mid, Ill even PL you to 50, then try and get MLs done, I can safely say you will NOT get them done, it is just not possible, we CAN NOT comlete them as we are to few. period .

Buy a mid account for a cpl of week, hell I could lend you mine and see how it is, we can NOT compete, we are so screwed its unbelivable.

Its always easy talking from a dominant side and saying we are weak and useless for not being able to compete when you dont (excuse me but it is true) have a f-----ng clue what you are talking about.

Just take an example tonight (yes Im pathetic playing daoc on new years eve ) we were almost 2 fg mids trying to get outside bledmeer bridge, we couldnt, COULDNT because it was 2 sorcs camping the bridge.
We couldnt kill them because we could only get 2k close to the bridge before we all died, no chance no way no how.

We could have been 3-4 fgs trying, no use. BO could probably have gotten past but mere mortals such as those mainly remaining in mid can not compete with this.

Try being a bit constructive instead of just gloating and try to see the bigger picture ok?
I would have no problem rerolling hib or alb, but what would I have to fight?

 

[Dumle]

With regards to a pet class, mid does need one really if nothing more than to make ML's more tolerable. I can imagine its extremely frustrating needing so many people for them especially after you've done it all on 1 char already.

I've found the amount of keep takes etc has started to settle down a bit too now and saw a fair few roaming groups out even in the early hours yesterday. I actually prefer NF alot more, the terrain is much more fun to fight around imo and also theres lots more to do for the casual player who fancies a quick hour of fun in the frontier. I dont think the balance between realms is actually that bad now either, at least ive seen groups from all 3 realms being able to beat each other but i dont really like serious rvr atm so hard for me to judge this.

Seems to be alot of complaints about wizards lately too, i agree the bolt damage is totally silly at times but thats all they do basically when it comes down to it -bolt bolt nuke nuke, it gets dull fast. I'd quite happily take a cut in damage to get even a grey NS in the earth line, wizard utility is pretty dire on the most part.

Yes Mids do need a petspamclass mostly for PvE encounters, for RvR I dont care and if others think about it I dont think they do either.
Being able to complete MLs/Artis with a 10th of the ppl needed now would be such a big relief and help.
Mythic said "MLs wont affect RvR" well it does, in a big way. Mids not being able to do them is troubling to say the least.

NF with its new enviroments are fun as such but they do not favour the mids the least, Mids absolute strongpoint was open field, we kind of dominated it for a long time. Now in NF the lands have changed so that instas do NOT rule the world but range does, this puts albs on top no matter how much somw will deny it.
Mids do not ask to be on top, we never have (atleast not the ones I know) but we are asking for a fair chance.

I think server population and relicstatus in US speaks for itself and I guarantee that EU will not be far behind.
We have lost all that held mid on top (the RvR GGs) and are left with randomgroups that cannot compete against better classes in the hands of more experienced players of other realms. This means we will loose every battle unless we outnumber the opponents 10-1 (may be slightly exxagarated but not by far) and that is if there are no alb GGs involved in the fights.

I think that some that are very happy that albs win most fights atm need to take a step back and look at what will happen if this continues. Sure they are having fun now, but what will they do in a matter of months when there is noone but a few stalthers to kill?
Sure there is always cybersex but hey

 

[GReaper]

Look at some positive points! (stats from duskwave)

Midgard has 34% of the level 50's on the server.
Midgard has more listed characters RR5+ than any other realm.
Erm, eeeeeerm, thats probably about it.

You get the advantage of keeps/towers upgrading faster. Although it may seem insignificant, its useful to start an attack whilst the enemy realm is busy having fun in another frontier - by the time they get back the towers/keeps they need to retake will be of a higher level much sooner.

Not much competition for forming groups. Not as if theres many full groups of Mids, you should have plenty of people who are able to join a group if they are willing.

Plenty of enemies to kill! An underdog realm doesn't have to compete with other groups from the same realm to get RPs. Although it may be tougher, the potential for more RPs is there if you take it.


I'm not saying its easy at the moment, but just remember there are advantages in the current situation.

 

[Ilum]

With regards to a pet class, mid does need one really if nothing more than to make ML's more tolerable. I can imagine its extremely frustrating needing so many people for them especially after you've done it all on 1 char already.

Know this:

Some times, it's not the accident the causes the symptoms, but the symptoms that causes the accident.

Maybe no realm should need a pet spamming class to get through master levels to begin with?

 

[Yma]

Some times, it's not the accident the causes the symptoms, but the symptoms that causes the accident.

Maybe no realm should need a pet spamming class to get through master levels to begin with?

Wise words. And as much as I care, I'd do without pet spam if there was an alternative, like a +tohit working on high purples or something like that. The problem Midgard is going to face if our numbers will continue fall is quite unique: we won't have people for rvr, and that we see it today. But we won't have people to complete MAs - encounters like most ML6 or 4.2 or 8.10 could be totally inaccessible soon, QQ or not. This means we won't be able to /reroll or complete our current toons ... and we all know what this means.

Well, Mythic already said they aren't going to give pet spam to Midgard, so said our RvR TL - my hope lies in the fact that they said this before the drastic population loss in USA servers (Midgard there is now the less populated realm, by far - big realms like Bors that were once Midgard domain are now smaller than Prydwen), so they may change their minds, who knows.

If there is something I learned in the two years I'm playing this game ... well, the game can be as good and fun as your enemies are. I may have the best organized realm and a totally cool group, in a fantastic landscape with strategic points that just beg for some fights, but if my enemies are behind the frontier wall pulling yet another mob, I'm not really having fun.

 

[fungus]

The middies got serious problems one of the biggest is that they are demotivated atm. And yes Albs are overpowered atm , but hey let them have some fun too for a while.
Remember for loads of ppl WoW is a way out of DAoC, although i doubt they will like the PVP . NEway, i hope 1.71 will change it, and middies will flock back.

Happy NewYear btw.

 

[Dumle]

Know this:

Some times, it's not the accident the causes the symptoms, but the symptoms that causes the accident.

Maybe no realm should need a pet spamming class to get through master levels to begin with?

Well said Ilum, couldnt agree more

 

[Martok]

You said nothing even remote to that mate, if you had put it like you did just now I wouldnt even have flinched.

I was 90% drunk anyway im surprised what i posted made sence at all lol.

What you said was basically, OMG I love how mids stand no chance in any aspect of the game and I dont care that they are going extinct, read your own post and try to interpret it otherwise ok m8
It was basically a big gloat about how humourous you found it that mids suffered and were totally outdone.

That was not i started/inteded it to sound like.

Mids dont have the numbers and may have the know how, that doesnt matter as mid success is largely based on numbers atm.
To be successful in RvR you need MLs/Artis/Zergs...
We can NOT do this, to do MLs we need 5X or more the numbers of albs/hibs, we need to adapt yes but a large part of adapting means rolling new classes right? That is not possible if you can not A.Exp them B.Do MLs and artis on them.
Please roll mid, Ill even PL you to 50, then try and get MLs done, I can safely say you will NOT get them done, it is just not possible, we CAN NOT comlete them as we are to few. period .

Buy a mid account for a cpl of week, hell I could lend you mine and see how it is, we can NOT compete, we are so screwed its unbelivable.

I would happly try it if i cba with the exp tred mill. hence why i only have 3 50's on pry lol.

Its always easy talking from a dominant side and saying we are weak and useless for not being able to compete when you dont (excuse me but it is true) have a f-----ng clue what you are talking about.

True it is always talking from the other side but as i am on the other side i do not have 100% of the picture only what i can observe. i never intended to sound like i knew it all ect wasnt the plan or the idea. I never said mid was ever weak as you say you dont have the numbers anymore that will change again soon with the patch as most beleive or at least make it a little less stressfull for you.

Just take an example tonight (yes Im pathetic playing daoc on new years eve ) we were almost 2 fg mids trying to get outside bledmeer bridge, we couldnt, COULDNT because it was 2 sorcs camping the bridge.
We couldnt kill them because we could only get 2k close to the bridge before we all died, no chance no way no how.

We could have been 3-4 fgs trying, no use. BO could probably have gotten past but mere mortals such as those mainly remaining in mid can not compete with this.

Dont mean to sound like gloating or anything but omfg ive seen 2 sorcs stand vs's a low rr mid group but ive never seen 2 sorcs vs's 2 fg's all i can say is they know how to play there class very well (NOT GLOATING) may i ask the 2 sorcs names? If they are both high rr i would expect yes they have the ra's + ml's + artis to compeate like this but if they were below rr6 i would say they must have had a hard time.

Try being a bit constructive instead of just gloating and try to see the bigger picture ok?
I would have no problem rerolling hib or alb, but what would I have to fight?

Yes being contructive is important but everyone needs there say and what ilum said sums it up tbh no realm should need a pet spammer to do PvE and Ml's. I realy do hope mids get back onto there feet as i dont like fighting soo few trolls and ickle kobbies. Good luck and getting back and im sure once you are back you wont be going again without a strong fight.

 

[Dumle]

Im not telling you who the sorcs were

Lets just say they are both very high RR and definetly know how to play their classes, however it still is a bit strange that 2 ppl can pin down so many ppl with no real problem.
Not really many classes that can do that, perhaps no other class, dunno.

Anyway, always fun with a bit of debate

 

[Rami]

Mids will be back, they're strong!
And when they do I am sure we all will QQ about them to stop pwning us

 

[Edlina]

Godt nytår!

Godt nytår Joor!

 

[willowywicca]

Im not telling you who the sorcs were

Lets just say they are both very high RR and definetly know how to play their classes, however it still is a bit strange that 2 ppl can pin down so many ppl with no real problem.
Not really many classes that can do that, perhaps no other class, dunno.

Anyway, always fun with a bit of debate

You had no runies at all? Just nearsight sorcs and they can't do much.. even the grey nearsight is enough to put you on an "equal" footing for range.. and nobody had purge either? I would say that it is entirely the 2fgs fault here, nothing to do with the 2 sorcs. Obviously the 2fg had no teamwork, and little knowledge of their own classes to be unable to do anything. The most obvious simple thing you could do is just swim across instead of using the bridge.. the 2 sorcs were in no way "pinning you down" you were pinning yourself down.

 

[charmangle]

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couldnt resist , my 'q' got stuck ;<

happy new year

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my '?' got stuck ;<

Btw do you know that qq means to stop complaining ? Hmm...how could you ever percive this note as a complaint? But since you got your finger stuck I guess you respond to the wrong note ?

/Charmangle

ps. Btw...if you count em youll notice that the ? are exactly the same amount as your Qs. What a weird coincidinc! ds.

 

[Dumle]

You had no runies at all? Just nearsight sorcs and they can't do much.. even the grey nearsight is enough to put you on an "equal" footing for range.. and nobody had purge either? I would say that it is entirely the 2fgs fault here, nothing to do with the 2 sorcs. Obviously the 2fg had no teamwork, and little knowledge of their own classes to be unable to do anything. The most obvious simple thing you could do is just swim across instead of using the bridge.. the 2 sorcs were in no way "pinning you down" you were pinning yourself down.

No we had no runies there then, no seers either except a bluecon bb
What the hell do you expect? It was 11 o clock on New Years eve

I logged on my runie after more albs got there and as you said with nearsight we managed to push them back, however they got away, hehe

And no they werent actually pinning us down they massacred us all the way up to bledmeer keepwall

And btw did I say we were uber? Nope, I said nothing of how we were, Im guessing we were mostly drunk mids playing characters we usually dont play, hehe

However I still stand by my statement that there are not many classes able to do the same, exception may be animist with a shroomzerg, but that doesnt really count as 2 enemies anymore then does it?

 

[remi]

nearsighting in keeps 24/7 is teh bore.

 

[Dumle]

You dont say?

 

[Zebolt]

You had no runies at all? Just nearsight sorcs and they can't do much..

Just purge it? Then they can't nearsight you again for 2 min

 

[leviathane]

2fg being farmed by 2 sorcs, kinda makes you think that its not really the class overpowered its the enemies not knowing wtf they're doing.

 

[willowywicca]

Just purge it? Then they can't nearsight you again for 2 min

For one minute.. and mids can just back away for 1 min, come back, and purge is down

And you say you had no seers or runies.. well. I reckon a healer and a runie or SM could hold back 2fg which have no CCers, ranged attackers, no purge and no healers too..

nothing overpowered about 2 albs holding back 2 groups with no ranged abilities or healing or purge.. any realm has pairs that can do that..

 

[Bubble]

Mids have been camping the bridge in odins with 4+ FG's all afternoon
At least they are Rvring

 

[Dumle]

2fg being farmed by 2 sorcs, kinda makes you think that its not really the class overpowered its the enemies not knowing wtf they're doing.

Fought many sorcs lately?

Try fighting a class with boltrange mess and nuking for 6-900 every second and tell me you need to be bad to loose to that

If low RR most ppl dont have any better purge than Purge1 because its a great cost atm, in the time it takes to press purge and it actually to start working (say 6-7s) 2 assisting casters will have killed 5-7 ppl, well not much for the remainder to do

 

[Dumle]

And you say you had no seers or runies.. well. I reckon a healer and a runie or SM could hold back 2fg which have no CCers, ranged attackers, no purge and no healers too..

nothing overpowered about 2 albs holding back 2 groups with no ranged abilities or healing or purge.. any realm has pairs that can do that..

2 skalds, that is 2 instamess, no chance in hell to get in range tho, healing well we had 2 shammys, no range well we had thanes skalds hunters and later on a frikkin treb still they killed us

Sorcs are the most OP class in the game atm in the right hands, and these two do know how to play them, atleast one I know is awesome.
Probably the best after septina IMO, but thats my opinion

 

[Brite]

Mids have been camping the bridge in odins with 4+ FG's all afternoon
At least they are Rvring

oh yeh and we know thats bound to be true :worthy:

 

[Bubble]

oh yeh and we know thats bound to be true :worthy:

You were there weren't you
Thought you were running with Aldorans group

(Btw Nice one forming and running a Group Aldoran, maybe fill it up and your have better luck against us)

 

[bigchief]

Just take an example tonight (yes Im pathetic playing daoc on new years eve ) we were almost 2 fg mids trying to get outside bledmeer bridge, we couldnt, COULDNT because it was 2 sorcs camping the bridge.
We couldnt kill them because we could only get 2k close to the bridge before we all died, no chance no way no how.

I told Saitoh we'd get a qq for that Shame a fg albs came and spoiled our fun :<

 

[Zebolt]

2 skalds, that is 2 instamess, no chance in hell to get in range tho, healing well we had 2 shammys, no range well we had thanes skalds hunters and later on a frikkin treb still they killed us

Could hold that force back with any main CCer + caster tho :>