When are Skalds being nerfed?

[Hatjitjai]

hmmm

i refuse to beleive any tank, from any realm, could ever take on a skald 1:1, if the skald had full power and all shouts ready. the only way they could, would be if the skald lost con while going afk and having his pc crash and house burn down.

look at screenshots

the only reason i cant physically kill skalds is because, they first of all do they're 2 170 dmg shouts, then mez me. then they sit down and rest till they're shouts are back up and reasdy to go. then they use them again, so by the time i get the 1st hit in im at half health already, so its already an unfair fight..

he brought u to half health by himself with no help from others..so its a fair fight..

btw a note : not all classes can kill all classes..if u know what i mean

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by old.herjulf
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Final conclusion these 2 classes compared tell me that MINSTREL is WAY overpowered compared to skald.
Omg, stealth stun long range mezz power regen + charm.
Same armour same con slightly less strenght.

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Also bear in mind Skalds are on the fighter dmg table vs the rogue table for minstrel. Which means given the same weapons and weapon spec skald hits about twice as hard in melee as minstrel. That's why minstrel is not way overpowered compaired to skald. Also I think skalds snare takes the piss, wtf do they need snare for they have speedsong ffs.

Oh yeah, where can I find the long range mez for minstrel too? Last I checked mez on minstrel is 1000 range, less than any other castable mez.

Frankly I'd like to see skalds get a nice big smack with the nerfbat, they nerfed minstrels and clerics, why not nerf skalds too I'd prefer if Mythic had fixed the broken classes rather than just nerfing everyone but now it's started why not go the whole hog.

 

[Garnet]

Karam FGS STFU skalds are not over powered in fact imho i think they should be made alot better and besides its how you play them that makes them great.

You on about skalds should be nerfed bah the clerics should have their damn smite taken away from them and their damned medium shield ability.

All i can say now is live with it and play the game...

 

[old.Atrox]

NERF the cabalist !!!!

 

[K0nah]

Spose bottomline is all classes should ideally be hard to kill, but doable, if the game was balanced right. Unfortunately it aint the case, but I dont think any tanks stand out particularly. The m00se is obviously a very handy little trick, and them spears hurt chain wearers plenty (who aint done thier best with resists) but my main gripe is casters. One on one from anything more than 5-10yrds a tank has no chance whatsoever atm.

 

[Xandax]

I far from belive that all classes should be able to kill all classes - that would potentionally only leave one class in the game.

There is a place for anybody in the battlegrounds of RvR.

Casters do very well against tanks due to mess, root and nukes but that is why we have stealthers, they do very well against caster types. They do worse against tanks due to tanks having higher (often) amount of hitpoints and weapondamage and amourfactor.
Tanks is just the - well tank - whos job is to "take the heat" and wack as many around you as he can (before getting messed/stunned and nuked). If a tanks get into meele, that is his domain.

 

[Khalen]

Hahahaha Karam you're a wimp

I killed Skeggbrief (Yellow Skald Troll) with even one of his norse friends with sword on me as well. Pretty good for someone who hasn't even his polearm maxxed. Gave me a nive 923 RP (is that the max nowawadays for killing a yellow on 50?) I even parried him twice with my polearm (dunno if he was out of end, probably was when he tried to run away (oh my some people still forget about stick ))

 

[- Pathfinder -]

Skalds will most likely be nerfed in the future; its the nature of whining tossers to moan until a class they get owned by is nerfed; Mythic have been nerfing stealthers for ages now, culminating in See Hidden and the removal of stealth oneshotting. As clerics are made useless in 1.51, the forum trolls turn their attention towards another powerful, extremely common class; the skald. It's simply a question of time before Mythic nerfs the skald. If we all stcika round for a year, cabalists and spiritmasters will own us all

 

[Antiarch]

Originally posted by old.Garnet
.....skalds are not over powered in fact imho i think they should be made alot better and besides its how you play them that makes them great.

False and true, Omg i just want to know what's lacking at Skalds? Stealth by any chance?

And yes its the way they are played that makes em great...just like some minstrels

Originally posted by old.Garnet
You on about skalds should be nerfed bah the clerics should have their damn smite taken away from them and their damned medium shield ability.[/B]

As much as i hate smite clerics for their ''i am not healing, i am a smiter' atitude, i have to admit that they are actually the only ones still keeping albion's flag up in rvr. And they were nerfed just because of the whinings (most of them made by skalds, who werent able 10 out of 10 battles to win vs smite cleric, just read the vnboards)

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by old.Trulla
Hehe.. u whining about skalds?? U better wait to se when the new patches make assasins uber..

My skald friend at level 50 on the US server complained about being owned by a NIGHTSHADE 1 on 1..

Then u can start ur whining

I suppose careful application of poisons and good layout of realm abilities did the trick
Seen some screens where lifebane was doing 300+ dmg a tick after activation of Viper Surely skald had not a chance it this case.

PS. Hope to grow my assasin quite soon to prove some theories about stelther vs skald in battegrounds

 

[galdora]

> Nerf the Skald

What you want?

[Check Sig]

 

[old.Rusfighter]

/whinemode weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Nerf us pleeeeease

 

[daarken]

nerf or no nerf, we wont see it till after xmas



Daarken
Skald 42

 

[old.Paranoid]

Originally posted by Release
1. your lying, Skalds only have 2dds so how did he hit you 3times?
2. Skalds dont have more hps than a armmen (Skalds have same hps as Thanes and Rogues)
3. Skalds dont have more Str (unless like someone said before, your a Troll and therefore give up your quickness and dex for it)
4. Skalds do not have stun, they have 2dds, mes, snare


Compare a Skald to Albs match (Minstrel)


1. Minstrels get stealth
2. Minstrels get mes and stun + 2dds
3. Minstrels get evade II, Skalds get evade I
4. Minstrels get plate armour


Conclusion:- you dont like Skalds, get better spirit resist so mes duration is shortened, get body resist so there dd's dont hurt you as much. And pray that respec comes soon so you can spec Thrust. Dont come shouting Nerf this bla bla bla just cos you specced wrong and cant play the game with skill.

ROFL LMAO

Minstrels get plate? please tell me? we do? I never knew that! and all this time i was wearing chain!DOH!
Skalds Get Evade I and Parry... skalds, get 2-handed weapons... minstrels dont... minstrels Have MUCH less HP they anyone...

In short... Minstrels are Rogues.. Skalds are Tanks.... you cant compare them... but u can certainly say that skalds could prolly 00wn a minsterl 1v1... but minstrels are highly usefull in other arease where a skald cant compare!

 

[0ld.mili]

or maybe

karuums whinge should be nerfed, much too powerful for us

 

[- Pathfinder -]

LoL I just love ignorant fools who havn't heard of damage tables and assume every Alb class wears plate

 

[old.Elrohir_CBH]

There are no dmg tables , only think that matter is your weaponskill =)

 

[- Pathfinder -]

Originally posted by old.Elrohir_CBH
There are no dmg tables , only think that matter is your weaponskill =)

And that's why buffed minstrels with higher weaponskill than armsmen still hit for less damage, yes? GG

 

[old.Elrohir_CBH]

Originally posted by - Pathfinder -


And that's why buffed minstrels with higher weaponskill than armsmen still hit for less damage, yes? GG

No , i have seen some test from a team lead about this
(thou his test were not complete i have seen no other test that say diverent) and weaponskill is what makes your dmg, ofcourse theres a diverents between 2h and 1h =)

 

[- Pathfinder -]

Originally posted by old.Elrohir_CBH


No , i have seen some test from a team lead about this
(thou his test were not complete i have seen no other test that say diverent) and weaponskill is what makes your dmg, ofcourse theres a diverents between 2h and 1h =)

TLs? Oh plz Note that the very existence of weaponskill indicates the existence of damage tables - an armsman speccing slash will receive a higher weaponskill than a paladin speccing slash - this is what people refer to as damage tables ^^

 

[-Wedge-]

Well, I read the first few replies

And the last few... But Skalds are weak, I'm sorry but I'll 'own' (well not exactly but I'll win from) any equal con Skald and even some higher con Skalds...

Must be that I'm a Thrust pole armsman, and (havent checked) have high resist against their shouts... But Skalds get me down to about 20-40% health when they go down... I hit a Skald hard (actually hit a lot of equal con middies hard, Thrust rulez )...

The problem is that Skalds hardly travel alone
(And Skalds rule in 'small' crowd crontrol with their instant mezz)

But thats another problem...

 

[thorey]

Karam not to be a prick but im quite sure i have even soloed you with my sb ...

in alb emain mg dotted you ... went down restealthed

went up and meleed you to death ..

if i am mistaken im sorry .. but if im not .. then i have to say that to me you just seem pretty self-gimped




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Thorey lvl 50 shadowgimp
Sillmjölke lvl 25 ungimper
<Nolby Pride>

 

[0ld.mili]

Originally posted by - Pathfinder -
LoL I just love ignorant fools who havn't heard of damage tables and assume every Alb class wears plate

they'll be telling us infiltrators are wearing plate next

 

[old.Scooby]

Originally posted by 0ld.mili


they'll be telling us infiltrators are wearing plate next

no we won't.

 

[-Wedge-]

Have to agree with Thorey here, I smell a GIMP

An Armsman losing from a equal con Skald

They are powerfull, but not that powerfull
(any level 43 Skald want to prove me wrong, PM me )
(but serious Karam, your threads do make me laugh each time, keep them up )

 

[0ld.mili]

Originally posted by old.Scooby


no we won't.

so why tell us minstrels wear plate then?

 

[old.anubis]

original post about plate looked like this:

You seem to be forgetting that you have healing, buffing thanes in the cleric, a stealthing skald in the minstrel and plate. please stop whining.

he just forgot to put comma in there, all he wanted to say that you (alboin) have:
a) healing, buffing thanes in the cleric
b) stealthing skald in the minstrel
c) plate

ffs who said minstrels have plate?

 

[0ld.mili]

Originally posted by Release

4. Minstrels get plate armour

Oh i dont know, maybe RELEASE said it?

 

[Zill]

Minstrels get plate?! I'd like to see them stealth with that on.

 

[Xandax]

Originally posted by Zilly
Minstrels get plate?! I'd like to see them stealth with that on.

Well shouldn't be harder than stealthing with a big great sword on your back