Well...there goes the life.

[Nate]

bonus pool is extra points for a game you win as you haven't played as much at certain times i believe. it's a way to play casual but keep up with hardcore a little more

 

[pikeh]

Yeah just learn a safe standard opening and the triggers you need to scout for so you can react to cheese in time. It then usually comes down to who has the best micro (which is usually you because people who like to cheese a lot on ladder are generally terrible at sc).

The ladder resets are because they are planning on having regular ladder 'seasons' where it will be reset for each season. Although you will still keep your achievements and more importantly hidden rating, so it will still place you vs the same difficulty opponents straight away each season. They are also introducing 2 new leagues above diamond: Master League, and Grand Master League. I hear that master league will be ~top 5% of diamond and GM league will be the top 100 players on the entire server.

Ive had two baneling rushes in two games, absolutely owned me. Ive tried hellion harass, but they just get overwhelmed eventually by the extreme numbers and apart from that, bunkers are the only other early game decent baneling counter (that I know of, anyway). Now I can safely assume that any zerg fucker I come upo against will be baneling rushing me, what would you do?

 

[Nate]

Marine rush worked in the gsl against bane's but you need to have good micro. I'll try to find that game so you can watch.

http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/vod/1262

 

[mooSe_]

when they say top 5% does that depend on your ladder rating or the hidding rating thing?

Also, what is the point of the bonus pool? I dont actually know how much i have improved since getting into diamond because of it.

I assume it will be hidden rating because that's what they use to decide when you get promoted through other divisions.

The bonus pool is pretty stupid tbh. It inflates everyone's rating at the same speed so it doesn't really help people who play less often and it means that you can't tell how fast you are improving since your rating will increase anyway. I guess Blizzard didn't want to make the crap players feel bad about their rating so they made the ratings into a meaningless number that goes up when you play so that everyone feels like a winner!

Ive had two baneling rushes in two games, absolutely owned me. Ive tried hellion harass, but they just get overwhelmed eventually by the extreme numbers and apart from that, bunkers are the only other early game decent baneling counter (that I know of, anyway). Now I can safely assume that any zerg fucker I come upo against will be baneling rushing me, what would you do?

If you suspect they will go for a baneling bust, make a wall at your ramp with only large buildings like barracks/factory or if you have already partly walled with a supply depot then put another depot/bunker behind it. If you can make your wall strong enough then it will take so many baneling to break it that they won't have enough speedlings left to kill your army.

Walling in and then rushing to cloaked banshee straight up smashes baneling busts because he will likely only have 16 drones, no lair and 1 queen: so no economy, no tech/detection and 1 anti-air unit which will lose in a 1v1 vs a banshee.

 

[pikeh]

If you suspect they will go for a baneling bust, make a wall at your ramp with only large buildings like barracks/factory or if you have already partly walled with a supply depot then put another depot/bunker behind it. If you can make your wall strong enough then it will take so many baneling to break it that they won't have enough speedlings left to kill your army.

Walling in and then rushing to cloaked banshee straight up smashes baneling busts because he will likely only have 16 drones, no lair and 1 queen: so no economy, no tech/detection and 1 anti-air unit which will lose in a 1v1 vs a banshee.

Awesome, so Banshees are the answer
I always build a wall at my ramp, but normally only with 1 rax and 2 supply's, and a bunker just off to the side out of reach. Its hard getting momentum back up after a baneling rush if your caught off guard though, in both cases they just left the lings outta my fov and I ran my bioball straight into them, expecting to come off better than I did. More scouting needed I guess, I always run 1 scv at the start and then kinda forget about scouting, but Im guessing in bronze league they are not going to be doing anything too clever.
Its definately harder than I expected, but im sure it will get easier the more games I play.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeah, the regular supply-supply-rax doesn't stop banelings, but if you use your factory, rax, other rax etc, then it stops banelings for sure.

Hell, i've even blocked off the ramp with my command center until i get siege tanks out to stop any amount of busties

 

[pikeh]

Yeah, the regular supply-supply-rax doesn't stop banelings, but if you use your factory, rax, other rax etc, then it stops banelings for sure.

Hell, i've even blocked off the ramp with my command center until i get siege tanks out to stop any amount of busties

Planetary Fortress <3

 

[old.Tohtori]

Planetary Fortress <3

Oh yes, it's a very under-appreciated mechanic

Much like using the "extra supply" on supply depots.

 

[ECA]

Games today were the best RO64 games so far, it's clear the skill level is skyrocketing when Nestea comes close to elimination in ro64 and all the games were good, nobody got stomped like in previous seasons.

 

[ECA]

Oh yes, it's a very under-appreciated mechanic

Much like using the "extra supply" on supply depots.

Do you like in some twilight world where people only makes tier 1 units ?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Do you like in some twilight world where people only makes tier 1 units ?

No.

 

[ECA]

Ah I see the twilight world of not having played for 3 months

 

[old.Tohtori]

Ah I see the twilight world of not having played for 3 months

Haven't played in 3 months, yeap. Why? Has the planetary fortress been taken out? Extra supply on depots?

Or are you just talking from a "That's not how the pro's do it lols" perspective, forgetting all manner of having FUN with a GAME

 

[ECA]

Your comment that PF is underused was the comment of my japery.
It's hilariously overused and the subject of quite a few P complaints.

Kind of like saying black/silver are underused car colours.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I just said under-appreciated

Though i still don't get how "haven't played in 3 months" gets into it?

Or the "only use tier 1 units" thing.

Has PF become some kind of basic go to tactic?

And if it has, like you now suggest, wouldn't it support the "only tier 1 units" thing?

You see, explaining things in a way that leaves no one guessing works a lot better

 

[ECA]

I just said under-appreciated

Though i still don't get how "haven't played in 3 months" gets into it?

Or the "only use tier 1 units" thing.

Has PF become some kind of basic go to tactic?

And if it has, like you now suggest, wouldn't it support the "only tier 1 units" thing?

You see, explaining things in a way that leaves no one guessing works a lot better

I think everyone with an IQ over 80 understands what I mean.
Maybe we should make a poll thread.

As for playing semantics with underused/appreciated, less pedantry.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Still can't just explain, oh well, basic eleetist a-hole behaviour it is then. Good day.

BTW; underused and underappreciated has a very distinct difference.

 

[ECA]

I'm not being elitist, I just can't be bothered getting into a 200000 word pissing contest with you, it isn't worth it. Take it for what it's worth and try and understand me or don't reply because I'm not going to get baited into being your free source of online entertainment. ( I'm sure you're perfectly aware of my meaning in previous posts anyway ).

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm not being elitist, I just can't be bothered getting into a 200000 word pissing contest with you, it isn't worth it. Take it for what it's worth and try and understand me or don't reply because I'm not going to get baited into being your free source of online entertainment. ( I'm sure you're perfectly aware of my meaning in previous posts anyway ).

Err, i was having a little banter about PF and Supply extras. YOU came in with some random comment about me living in lala land.

I also, quite politely, asked what it was about and yet you bring in more insults about me having a -80 IQ. I asked a few times even, but you seem to have the elitist mind of "no explaining, just insults".

So, how about you explain how me saying(which you only -thought- i did) "PF is underused" is at all relevant to a world where people make only tier 1 units?

Or infact the "no play for 3 months" comment? Has PF changed a lot?

There may be a time and palce to use the old "toht whine" card, but this time it's quite clear that you're the one stirring the pot.

 

[Garaen]

Absolutely love it YouTube - Banelings - (Justin Bieber - Baby PARODY) ft HuskyStarcraft / KurtHugoSchneider

 

[Nate]

I hate Bieber!

I love this!

 

[pikeh]

my god, reaper harass is still so effective.

especially vs 'toss.

 

[ECA]

Holy epic games batman

Clide vs Leenock.... wow

 

[pikeh]

Holy epic games batman

Clide vs Leenock.... wow

Where you finding these?

 

[ECA]

GOMtv.net ? GSL Broadcast, Video, Starcraft 2, Starcraft, Warcraft, eSports tournaments

You can only watch the first game for free, it's $15/season ticket which ends up being like 5 cents per hour of content or something

Well worth it to get HD VODs and HQ livestream and support the scene.

 

[Nate]

I subscribed because I wanted to see the other 2 clide games!

 

[Nate]

about the clide v leenock game

Spoiler

Would clide have benefited from going BC's in the last game?

 

[Shagrat]

so are those compo's open to all countries then?

looking through the people in the latest vids and theyre all asian? are the koreans etc top of the pile in SC2?

 

[ECA]

The GSL is hosted in korea, although 5 non koreans got into the top 64 this season, and 3-4 are still in.

 

[ECA]

YouTube - Not Good Enough To Play ft Smix and Rob Hustle