Wazz's hurt himself

[Fweddy]

He kicked himself in the face! Wazz is terrible at football.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

So what happend? Eye and foot in the same injury?

Separate incidents, same match. Foot got blasted through in a tackle and then a few minutes later in another tackle I kicked the underside of someone's boot... innocuous enough but it's caused some damage.

About 5 minutes after those incidents I got a ball clearance direct to the eye.

Anyway, just back from the specialist again. Foot verdict: series of microfractures in one of the foot bones. Moderately severe bone bruising, fluid and contusion. Fortunately no muscle or ligament damage.

MRI >>>>>>>>> X-Rays tbh

 

[Scouse]

Good news that man

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Reckon about 6 weeks. No need for a cast either. \o/

 

[TdC]

take care dude, but also keep moving! try not to favour your foot or anything. just walk as you normally would even if it hurts!

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Note to FH: Don't listen to Teedles as he just advised me the exact opposite of the foot specialist.

Cretin!

 

[TdC]

lol your specialist is shit then

 

[TdC]

srsly though I'm just parroting what my surgeon told me after cutting off my cast. I *thought* I would be able to walk normally again. How wrong I was

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Yeah that's once a bone's healed. You need to move it around a lot as the muscle stiffness has set in. Had the same instructions after coming out of a cast for my fractured wrist a couple of years back. I had to physically force my hand to move with the other one and force very, very painful stretches to get mobility back.

As my bone will be healing over the next 6 weeks, any pain when moving is bad and will slow down healing.

 

[TdC]

you still giving up le footy?

 

[Wazzerphuk]

11-a-side I think it's best to really. Had two right foot injuries this year alone. The bone formation in my feet would suggest I'm always going to be troubled by pain at points. The two matches I've tried to play this season I've lasted 20 minutes before becoming crippled. Wouldn't be allowed to play football for about 3 months from now anyway due to eye thing, so that's pretty much an entire season missed. At 29 and not being an elite athlete these problems will only be the start of worsening and more serious issues so can't really see a way in which I can get back to being strong enough, especially since I play as a tackle-thirsty holding midfielder. I would normally come back from matches with a couple of minor injuries every week due to a combination of dirty teams/terrible pitches/my own aggressiveness on-pitch when fully fit anyway.

Might give some 5-a-side a go again in the future since that's a lot less physical but I'm in no hurry. Bit of a shame but I much prefer being able to see and walk properly tbh

 

[rynnor]

Note to FH: Don't listen to Teedles as he just advised me the exact opposite of the foot specialist.

Cretin!

To be fair I have heard the same thing - the immobility while healing is old skool so I thought.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

To be fair I have heard the same thing - the immobility while healing is old skool so I thought.

We're talking active bone fracture here. You don't move them about, which is why they're normally casted still.

 

[rynnor]

We're talking active bone fracture here. You don't move them about, which is why they're normally casted still.

Microfractures are not fractures - if you had fractured a metatarsal you would be in plaster.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

What are you talking about? Yes they are. They're tiny fractures in the bone.

"Microfracture are tiny fractures in a bone caused when the force applied to a bone exceeds the strength of that bone. This can be achieved through strenuous activities such as running, dance, military training or gymnastics. The result is weakening of the bone which can result in a normal, complete bone breakage or macrofracture. When microfractures occur, the rate of bone formation by osteoblasts is outpaced by the normal osteoclastic bone destruction, as the osteoblasts are now having to form bone to fill cracks as well as their normal bone formation. Hence the bone is weakened and more susceptible to fracture under strain. However if the bone is given rest, osteoblastic activity can catch up and completely repair the bone."

 

[rynnor]

What are you talking about? Yes they are. They're tiny fractures in the bone.

"Microfracture are tiny fractures in a bone caused when the force applied to a bone exceeds the strength of that bone. This can be achieved through strenuous activities such as running, dance, military training or gymnastics. The result is weakening of the bone which can result in a normal, complete bone breakage or macrofracture. When microfractures occur, the rate of bone formation by osteoblasts is outpaced by the normal osteoclastic bone destruction, as the osteoblasts are now having to form bone to fill cracks as well as their normal bone formation. Hence the bone is weakened and more susceptible to fracture under strain. However if the bone is given rest, osteoblastic activity can catch up and completely repair the bone."

A fracture is a clean thru break and has to be immobilised to keep the bone fragments aligned.

Microfractures are just little cracks in the bone - they heal up a lot faster and with no real consequences once fully healed.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

A fracture is a crack in the bone. A microfracture is a much smaller one, normally inside the bone but doesn't affect the bone structure or shape.

Nice attempt at back peddling, although it's a painfully embarrassing one

 

[rynnor]

A fracture is a crack in the bone. A microfracture is a much smaller one, normally inside the bone but doesn't affect the bone structure or shape.

Nice attempt at back peddling, although it's a painfully embarrassing one

What back pedalling? Microfractures are not fractures - not sure why you continue to dispute that?

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Because they ARE fractures? The clue's in the name?

They are a fracture of the bone on a micro scale. Just because the treatment is rest rather than cast does not make them any less of a fracture. As I said, and proved with quotes, a fracture is crack in the bone, there's a difference between a fracture and a microfracture but they are both BONE CRACKS.

 

[rynnor]

Because they ARE fractures? The clue's in the name?

They are a fracture of the bone on a micro scale. Just because the treatment is rest rather than cast does not make them any less of a fracture. As I said, and proved with quotes, a fracture is crack in the bone, there's a difference between a fracture and a microfracture but they are both BONE CRACKS.

Fracture is a technical term - so is microfracture - they are most certainly not the same nor are microfractures anything like as serious or as slow to heal as a fracture.

Are you telling everyone you have broken your foot or something?

 

[Wazzerphuk]

I have never claimed they are the same. I have said they are different, but part of the same family. Bone cracks are known as fractures. I have never tried to claim it as being serious or as slow to heal? I simply said what I had. Microfractures ARE bone cracks, which are commonly referred to as fractures.

The fact you're arguing so vehemently about a point of medical/common understanding semantics just goes to show that you're only interested in appearing "correct" on the internet. Which is incredibly sad.

 

[dysfunction]

A fracture is a break. The bone has been split into two or more pieces.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

So what's a hairline fracture then? Not a fracture either? As that's not a complete split either.

 

[rynnor]

Whatever - on the plus side you should see no long term consequences of the injury which is cool.

I read it takes around 3 years for bone density in the microfractures to equal the surrounding bone.

Do you know which bone in the foot is injured?

 

[dysfunction]

So what's a hairline fracture then? Not a fracture either? As that's not a complete split either.

Yes it is a complete split but the bones have not moved out of place.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Navicular

 

[rynnor]

Navicular

Common one in sportsmen I think - it doesnt have great blood flow though so is probably at the longer end of healing times.

In athletes a fracture of this bone can be career ending.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Yeah when I did my wrist in I fractured the scaphoid, which is apparently the one you don't want to fracture in your wrist because it also has bad blood flow. I was casted for 3 and half months on that one, didn't have full movement in my wrist without pain for over 6 months. That's when I gave up part-time goalkeeping.

 

[DaGaffer]

Yeah when I did my wrist in I fractured the scaphoid, which is apparently the one you don't want to fracture in your wrist because it also has bad blood flow. I was casted for 3 and half months on that one, didn't have full movement in my wrist without pain for over 6 months. That's when I gave up part-time goalkeeping.

I've broken both scaphoids

 

[Wazzerphuk]

It's definitely not something I'd recommend. Massive pain in the arse.

Weirdly though this foot injury was about the most intense pain I've ever felt. Hurt like the scaphoid fracture but much, much more intense, although that huge pain only lasted for the first 24 hours. It has been easing off quite dramatically each day since. My kneecap fracture was pretty fucking painful too, mind.