Water "bug" ?

[theslayeruk]

Was wondering if many people have encountered this aswell, but sometimes I generally get high speed when on the surface of the water whilst on low health, when I go below the water the speed slows down dramatically.

I really need to know if this is a bug or its a bannable offense because it's out of my hands when it happens and several times I've been kiting adds at full speed with 0% hp and had to stop and die incase I was breaching anything.

Any thoughts welcome.

 

[Lollersausage]

Iirc was a thread about this a while back, and the user got a permanent ban for it. Was on US servers however

 

[theslayeruk]

Was it a ban for intentional abuse of the bug though?

 

[Lollersausage]

Pretty sure yeah.

 

[rure]

Was it a ban for intentional abuse of the bug though?

They banned him for using a 3rd party client

 

[Lollersausage]

They banned him for using a 3rd party client

That what they said it was, aparantly it was just him using this 'water bug' though. But i don't know the story so not gonna go backing people up etc

 

[trycorn]

they did say on the herald that it wasnt because of that he got banned but 3rd party program, and it was not a bannable offense but would be looked into, afaik it get's fixed in next patch orso but not 100% sure

 

[Zoia]

Another thing i have notice, is when i fight someone under water and i'm /stuck to them and they back off, i'm getting target out of range all the time.
Anyone else got that problem? As if they are moving a little faster than me when they are backing off.

 

[Lollersausage]

Another thing i have notice, is when i fight someone under water and i'm /stuck to them and they back off, i'm getting target out of range all the time.
Anyone else got that problem? As if they are moving a little faster than me when they are backing off.

Get that all the time ._.

 

[Tuorin]

Yes I've had that a couple of times target out of range for me but could hit me while moving backwards below surface. Thought it was my waterspeed but apparently not.

 

[Corran]

It is a bug, but one you cant do anything about... it doesnt matter if your on 1%, 10%, 50% or 100% health, on the surface of the water you will swim at 100% speed (100% speed = the speed you would be going normally with full health given the circumstances, eg normal run, normal sprint, normal caster speed)

As for the banning on the US... It was a guy that had been appealed many times before, Mythic stated that they had caught him moving at GODSPEED (ie speed which only a GM can move at) on both water and land therefore he got a ban. MAssive arguement of "they said, I said" about it on VN but in end just believe who you want on that one.

Must admit, it is a horrid bug. Im sure alot of people got annoyed by getting someone to 5% health and them jumping in the water so they can get to normal speed and get away. Though im sure everyone been on both ends of this intentially or not.

 

[MrBic]

Ive noticed the underwater bug alot of times.. mainly when facing skalds or minstrels who abuse it alot (ofc they might not know about it, who knows)
either way they seem to hit me each swing while i can maybe get 1 of 3-4 hit to hit rest ill get out of view msg.
about ciliviel using any 3rd party programs is up to anyone to decide who to belive. imo i cant say ´that i think he used any cheats cause I never seen ´that he needs one from his vids..dont seem like he needs to cheat... but thats just my drunken opinion


PS i just love everyone that plays a sb =P just ask solari/khainai about my strange obsession with sb's :worthy:

 

[Kaun_IA]

Was wondering if many people have encountered this aswell, but sometimes I generally get high speed when on the surface of the water whilst on low health, when I go below the water the speed slows down dramatically.

I really need to know if this is a bug or its a bannable offense because it's out of my hands when it happens and several times I've been kiting adds at full speed with 0% hp and had to stop and die incase I was breaching anything.

Any thoughts welcome.

yep, its a bug and dont abuse it, or might get banned if reported

 

[illu]

Ive noticed the underwater bug alot of times.. mainly when facing skalds or minstrels who abuse it alot (ofc they might not know about it, who knows)
either way they seem to hit me each swing while i can maybe get 1 of 3-4 hit to hit rest ill get out of view msg.
about ciliviel using any 3rd party programs is up to anyone to decide who to belive. imo i cant say ´that i think he used any cheats cause I never seen ´that he needs one from his vids..dont seem like he needs to cheat... but thats just my drunken opinion


PS i just love everyone that plays a sb =P just ask solari/khainai about my strange obsession with sb's :worthy:

I'm going to check the toilet carefully before I next go in there, as you might be in it ^^

Oli - Illu

 

[MrBic]

hmm illu.. one of the sb's i havent fought yet.. will be looking for ya and prolly wont use remedy since my slow ass usally forgets to use it=P

 

[Dr_Evil]

In what patch is it fixed in?

Cause this really makes me afraid of going RvR at all. In fights I don't remember and don't think about the water physics, and if I suddenly decide to swim on the water surface not noticing that I'm swimming faster than I should below 20%, and someone should report it to Goa I don't know what they will do about it. I think Mythic said they wouldn't ban people for a bug that it's impossible to avoid, banning people for it is like banning people for walking, but don't know about Goa. Might not be worth the risk going RvR at all until I know what Goa does about this. If they ban people for swimming, I will avoid water and hence avoid RvR until they fix it.

 

[Puppet]

Just pisses me off hunters are abusing it massively. Had like 80% of the hunters I found on a bridge jump into the water to abuse it to the max.

 

[Hrymf]

Just pisses me off hunters are abusing it massively. Had like 80% of the hunters I found on a bridge jump into the water to abuse it to the max.

Think it can be countered by simple unsticking and move all by your self, ive started to learn doing that at least, also when enemies do it on land where it often seem like you wont be able to hit as much as them when they back away from you

 

[CuddleBunny!]

Just pisses me off hunters are abusing it massively. Had like 80% of the hunters I found on a bridge jump into the water to abuse it to the max.

Sojourner waterspeed? :< or not.. I dunno ;o

 

[popa]

that water bug is like speedhack
why can get baned is easy the sever have your hp and your location and u move faster that u have to move= ban

is easy to ban some1 that fix the water code seams

 

[Dr_Evil]

Well if I understood this bug right, there's nothing you can do to avoid it. If you swim on the water surface, you will swim at the same speed whether you're over 20% HP or under 20% HP doesn't matter. It's not like you can choose to swim slower when you're under 20%, would like to know by Goa what they do about it.

If you get banned for this, it's like being banned for going RvR. Is this fixed in 1.80?

 

[Solari]

Ive noticed the underwater bug alot of times.. mainly when facing skalds or minstrels who abuse it alot (ofc they might not know about it, who knows)
either way they seem to hit me each swing while i can maybe get 1 of 3-4 hit to hit rest ill get out of view msg.
about ciliviel using any 3rd party programs is up to anyone to decide who to belive. imo i cant say ´that i think he used any cheats cause I never seen ´that he needs one from his vids..dont seem like he needs to cheat... but thats just my drunken opinion


PS i just love everyone that plays a sb =P just ask solari/khainai about my strange obsession with sb's :worthy:

How did I get dragged into this? Told you to go to that AA-meeting dude

oh btw... we can reroll our classic SB's with this patch >.>

 

[Vladamir]

Just pisses me off hunters are abusing it massively. Had like 80% of the hunters I found on a bridge jump into the water to abuse it to the max.

<cough> Pip <cough>

 

[Jarroman]

eg: i am underwater , a caster sees me and starts casting like mad on me , i go surface he looses sight, he comes surface, i go under, he comes under , i go up , he comes up etc etc.is this considered a bug?

 

[grimlin]

Was wondering if many people have encountered this aswell, but sometimes I generally get high speed when on the surface of the water whilst on low health, when I go below the water the speed slows down dramatically.

I really need to know if this is a bug or its a bannable offense because it's out of my hands when it happens and several times I've been kiting adds at full speed with 0% hp and had to stop and die incase I was breaching anything.

Any thoughts welcome.

ciliviel got banned for this

 

[Urgluf]

eg: i am underwater , a caster sees me and starts casting like mad on me , i go surface he looses sight, he comes surface, i go under, he comes under , i go up , he comes up etc etc.is this considered a bug?

nah

 

[Mikisen]

once I was jumped by 3 players... killed one, then two stealthers popped me and I was getting very low hp... had like 10% left and was swimming very slow.

But the stealthers were warped so they had trouble catching up. Then I go above water and I swim much faster than I was supposed to be able to, so I end killing them both.

I am sure they were both yelling speedhack there....

 

[Kagato]

I know certain spellcasters that just love to abuse these bugs still,

 

[Corran]

I know certain spellcasters that just love to abuse these bugs still,

99% of people i fight abuse them so i started to do it a bit in return as it annoying dying due to it all the time. Tanks abuse the LoS issue when casters attack them (very very easy to abuse it when you got a 1second period to get up and down and they have to move to keep in range as well as surface/dive then stop)

Casters abuse it when tanks are in melee range, easy to do but takes a bit more timing as the tank will often just /stick and spam styles, sometimes surfacing to hit you then diving etc (most are stupid when trying to get away, surface and dive so end up diving into view because tank dont surface)