News Unemployment. here it comes!

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lol what? Care to back that up with facts? Oh and you do know we were promised a referendum on joining the euro as far back as 1997 right so it hardly comes as a shock that senior labour MP's would want to join the euro but that doesn't meant that it was going to be put forward as policy.

Sun Exclusive videos | The Sun |Video

excuse the website, but the video is there.

edit, part of the budget iirc.

Also two words.

Lisbon Treaty?

 

[cHodAX]

Sun Exclusive videos | The Sun |Video

excuse the website, but the video is there.

edit, part of the budget iirc.

Also two words.

Lisbon Treaty?

Err why would the existance of the EPU be a shock? It has been around since 1997 and was put in place based on the manifesto commitments made in the run up to that election. It existed so that we would be properly prepared should we ever enter the single currency.

All your video shows me is Mr Osbourne acting like he was unveiling something that no one knew about when infact parliament had know about it since the start because of it's budgetry requirements.

Just because it existed doesn't mean we were joining the euro any time soon. Sorry but it has been around since 1997.

Oh and Lisbon Treaty, yep we all know about that too, we were sold down the river on that one. Bit like the Maastricht Treaty too really?

Or are you too young to remember that one? Hmm now I think about it, aren't there a few more dodgy EU treaties the Tories signed us up to?

 

[Cadelin]

Coming up on the Coalition Channel! 1.3 million more on the dole according to treasury, 600,000 from the public sector alone. David Cameron is in denial and saying unemployment will fall, what a fucking farce!

BBC News - Forecast suggests 600,000 public sector jobs to go

Double dip recession here we come, you cannot remove that many salaries and tax income from the economy without major repercusions.

Wow, Epic fail there cHodAX. Did you read the report? The key facts from the OBR report:

* 610,000 public sector jobs lost over the next six years
* 490,000 public sector jobs lost over the next five years
* But 1.34m extra jobs overall in the public and private sector during the next six years

Yes jobs are being lost but jobs are being created all the time too. In 5 years time this leaked document estimates there will be 1.34 million more jobs overall. So 1.1 million will go and 2.44 million will be created.

The rest of the stuff in that article is just spin made up by the guardian or the Labour party.

 

[mistergee]

All they are doing is clearing the jobs which were created by labour to help massage the unemployment figures, there is so much waste in the public sector its ridiculous. Why should people who work in the private sector suffer through lack of services, higher taxes etc, just to keep people employed in cushy public sector jobs?

Absolutely right!!!!!!
At last someone with common sense!!!!!!!
It is time that this tory bashing ignorance and denial of the situation stopped.
People are just using the tories as scape-goats for their own short comings.
Britain cannot afford a labour government! never will do!
Labour deliberately created an unsustainable amount of non-jobs in the public sector as this sheilded the unemployment figuere as Raven says rightly and also as this would create anger if the tories got in as they would have to be cut. This is all part of the dirty labour tricks which we have become used to over the last thirteen years. The John Major Government left surpluses in the public finances and a low taxation rate. We now have debt, deficit and a rising taxation rate. New Labour's public finance record is poor!

 

[Imgormiel]

Err why would the existance of the EPU be a shock? It has been around since 1997 and was put in place based on the manifesto commitments made in the run up to that election. It existed so that we would be properly prepared should we ever enter the single currency.

All your video shows me is Mr Osbourne acting like he was unveiling something that no one knew about when infact parliament had know about it since the start because of it's budgetry requirements.

Just because it existed doesn't mean we were joining the euro any time soon. Sorry but it has been around since 1997.

Oh and Lisbon Treaty, yep we all know about that too, we were sold down the river on that one. Bit like the Maastricht Treaty too really?

Or are you too young to remember that one? Hmm now I think about it, aren't there a few more dodgy EU treaties the Tories signed us up to?

God I love absolute priviledge

 

[cHodAX]

Wow, Epic fail there cHodAX. Did you read the report? The key facts from the OBR report:

* 610,000 public sector jobs lost over the next six years
* 490,000 public sector jobs lost over the next five years
* But 1.34m extra jobs overall in the public and private sector during the next six years

Yes jobs are being lost but jobs are being created all the time too. In 5 years time this leaked document estimates there will be 1.34 million more jobs overall. So 1.1 million will go and 2.44 million will be created.

The rest of the stuff in that article is just spin made up by the guardian or the Labour party.

Nope, you failed. The 1.3 million is from the leaked treasury report here...

Budget: Treasury Report For Chancellor George Osborne Estimates 1.3 Million Job Losses | Politics | Sky News

The OBR forecast 1.3 million new jobs in a 6 year period. However, that is based on 3% domestic growth per annum, something we will not get close to achieving if the budget cuts are as far reaching as we are being told.

 

[cHodAX]

Oh and I really look forward to digging this thread up in 5 years time.

 

[Lamp]

i've been unemployed since around the 5th of february, applied for upwards of 25 jobs a day for a huge variety of jobs since then, posted cvs everywhere, signed up with a bunch of agencies. i have an interview tomorrow for a part time design job, it's the first one i've gotten. i've been told by all the 'professionals' i've spoken to such as temping agencies, places like reed, the job centre, that i am doing 'all the right things to find work', i have a first class degree and up until february i had been constantly in employment since 15 (various shop jobs and then i was a cinema manager for 3.5 years).

it's honestly frightening how hard it is to find work.

GL m8 - hope you get something soon

 

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Oh and I really look forward to digging this thread up in 5 years time.

same so you can eat your words on the countries state ;p

 

[cHodAX]

same so you can eat your words on the countries state ;p

I look forward to it, meet you down the pub for a punchup if you are correct but if I am right the beers will be on me as long as we aren't a 3rd world country by then.

 

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haha wont get me going to a pub in manchester sorry ;p

 

[cHodAX]

haha wont get me going to a pub in manchester sorry ;p

I only drink in nice pubs since I got my head smashed in.

Will have to be a country pub.

 

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Haha well Rochdale isnt too far away from home in UK ;p

 

[cHodAX]

Haha well Rochdale isnt too far away from home in UK ;p

Todmorden, we can go watch the UFO's land!

 

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Todmorden, we can go watch the UFO's land!

Used to go fishing on Toddy canal every weekend ;p

 

[cHodAX]

Used to go fishing on Toddy canal every weekend ;p

That explains alot tbh, especially your politics. They anal probed you right?

 

[Gibbo]

Sun Exclusive videos | The Sun |Video

excuse the website, but the video is there.

edit, part of the budget iirc.

Also two words.

Lisbon Treaty?

Funny video that with the Lib Dems squirming the background, because of course those two want to join the Euro. But like all their principles that they have dropped for a few posts in government they have let this one slip also.

It's quite obvious there would be a team looking at the Euro, but that was just cheap points scoring from from Osborne. I don't for one minute believe with a Labour government we would have joined the Euro in this parliament anyway.

But anyway, this government is bad for the country. The Tories always are.

 

[Cadelin]

Nope, you failed. The 1.3 million is from the leaked treasury report here...

Budget: Treasury Report For Chancellor George Osborne Estimates 1.3 Million Job Losses | Politics | Sky News

The OBR forecast 1.3 million new jobs in a 6 year period. However, that is based on 3% domestic growth per annum, something we will not get close to achieving if the budget cuts are as far reaching as we are being told.

Wow, you are just determined to fail!

Estimates on the impact of the spending squeeze show the Government is expecting up to 600,000 public sector jobs and 700,000 private sector jobs to go by 2015, The Guardian said.

The 1.3 million is a number made up by the Guardian, its not what the report said at all.

Also, if you need to decide if you believe the report or not. You can't say I believe this bit (the job losses) but don't believe this bit (the jobs created). If you believe the report then in 5 years we will have around 1.34 million more people in jobs and if you don't then you can make no comments.

 

[Bugz]

Sorry to hear some of you are struggling to find jobs. Do try the big supermarkets as much as possible though - as they are raking in the money BIG time and Tescos, Asda etc. are buying up all the failed retailer branches and doing them up. Most jobs I see in my local area are supermarket-based and although 5.80 an hour isn't fantastic - it's better than nothing.

I don't really want to side either way on the economic stuff here because honestly, who knows what will happen? UKs' debt to GDP ratio is staggering and is very fuckin close to Greeces. It will take YEARS of surpluses to get us out of it unless there are major cuts. Other countries know this too. All it takes is a speculative moment over our currency and boom. Not good considering trade is keeping us afloat at the moment (and presumably we want to keep it afloat when government spending starts to prop up the economy less under Tory control). Should we join the Euro? I don't see why not. EU is a big trading area for us and Germany are one of our biggest trading partners. Germany are firmly riding the road to recovery and the extra trade from joining the EU would help us a lot I think. But then of course when we're recovered; we have the usual disadvantage versus advantage Euro argument. All that said, Cho is right in that the tories are risking a double-dip. But then it's a double-edged sword. Spend a lot; prop up the economy via the government and incur currency concern or drop the spending to ease the debt thus dropping the government spending and risk a double-dip. Only time will tell - economists are divided on this - probably one of the biggest dividers the economic world has seen and I'm sure it'll pave ways for new thoughts on stabilization policy and the order of necessities in the future.

Hope everyone is well.

 

[eksdee]

well, here's on person off the unemployment statistics - i just got offered a job as a designer/typesetter for a local newspaper! 21k pro rata for 3.5 days a week and it's my first 'proper' job, i'm absolutely ecstatic. starting on monday, woohoo!

 

[kiliarien]

I considered entering this debate, as a teacher public spending is linked in some manner, although a lot of Labour's job creation moves weren't based on teachers more like support staff. It's fair to say though we're expected to continue to improve GCSE/A-Level results with 25% less funds. A bit unlikely tbh.

But this is more fun, oldie but a goodie.



HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODY HOO!

 

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I considered entering this debate, as a teacher public spending is linked in some manner, although a lot of Labour's job creation moves weren't based on teachers more like support staff. It's fair to say though we're expected to continue to improve GCSE/A-Level results with 25% less funds. A bit unlikely tbh.

But this is more fun, oldie but a goodie.



HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODY HOO!

Labours solution of throwing money at everything doesn't work though ;p

 

[Turamber]

Labours solution of throwing money at everything doesn't work though ;p

Governments spent their way out of the Great Depression of the 1920's and it has been used time and again successfully all over the world. Nobody likes UK Plc being in debt but it is an international problem, one which hit other countries even worse.

 

[Legaen]

well, here's on person off the unemployment statistics - i just got offered a job as a designer/typesetter for a local newspaper! 21k pro rata for 3.5 days a week and it's my first 'proper' job, i'm absolutely ecstatic. starting on monday, woohoo!

Congrats to you! Well deserved, just shows that it pays off in the end even if it is depressing.

 

[cHodAX]

It gets better, the planned £6 billion cuts has now grown from anywhere between 25% and 50% of departemental budgets. Are the BBC lying too? Didn't seem like it on election night when they were very pro-tory.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10500081.stm

 

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well we are all having to pay the price of the follies of the recent Labour government

 

[Turamber]

well we are all having to pay the price of the follies of the recent Labour government

Yawn. International financial problems =/= all Labour's fault.

 

[Ch3tan]

It gets better, the planned £6 billion cuts has now grown from anywhere between 25% and 50% of departemental budgets. Are the BBC lying too? Didn't seem like it on election night when they were very pro-tory.

BBC News - Minister plays down 40% departmental cuts planning

BBC pro Tory? fucking LOL.

 

[Raven]

Our massive, bloated, over paid public sector is Labour's fault...

 

[cHodAX]

BBC pro Tory? fucking LOL.

Nick Robinson, former Young Conservative party chairman? Now Political Editor for the BBC? The BBC were practically jizzing themselves on election night until it became clear that they were going to need the liberals to form a government.