To the real soloers out there

[Gahn]

Hello ! My name's Horner the Real Soloer .

Can I come?

Can I come with my ML9 meleeing isolationist armsman pet ? He hits for 900 per swing ! U guys gotta see this !

No seriously ... Is it ok to intercept and kill the real soloers on their way to the 'secret real soloing' area ?

Guess u can go on killing xpers like u always did and be happy.

 

[Namefake]

Hello ! My name's Horner the Real Soloer .

Can I come?

Can I come with my ML9 meleeing isolationist armsman pet ? He hits for 900 per swing ! U guys gotta see this !

No seriously ... Is it ok to intercept and kill the real soloers on their way to the 'secret real soloing' area ?

Hello my name is Namefake, the funny posts appreciator, unfortunatelly this wasnt fun :/

And ml9 pets aint anything new, neither is your ability to kill lowbies and laughspam. anyway, see you there so i can kick your butt

 

[Raven]

outgame aranging ingame fights is bannable, be sure to post a list of the users on this board so we can forward it to goa.

DAOC will never have instanced rvr unless they make it so that you don`t gain any RP.. otherwise it would just screw the ballance totally between normal players and people who give eachother 100k a day.

mate, what the hell is wrong with you? all we want is to fight away from the boring zergs and most of us have no interest in 8v8, you can still get your zergs RPs, now we (soloers) can have our rvr too, without worrying about idiots who play just to ruin others fun, no abuse, no shouting, just plain fun, get a life.

 

[Fenderon]

I have to admit.. I do enjoy the hunt in a dangerous area alot. But when the area gets too dangerous or just plain silly.. (hello poor RR7 heretic baiting under water with DI to draw out the solo SB.. and when the SB attacks you get your four other friends to come..).. It would indeed be nice with a change.

But I wont last long there either if people blow IP2/3, grow horns and use every ability they have every fight

 

[Xxcalibur]

I have to admit.. I do enjoy the hunt in a dangerous area alot. But when the area gets too dangerous or just plain silly.. (hello poor RR7 heretic baiting under water with DI to draw out the solo SB.. and when the SB attacks you get your four other friends to come..).. It would indeed be nice with a change.

But I wont last long there either if people blow IP2/3, grow horns and use every ability they have every fight

mate each dude can has his abilities , the ppl who have IP is weaker on passives and viceversa


this is working atm fine , gahn take care with new registered ppl , i reckon you only start accept the ppl you know

 

[Fenderon]

mate each dude can has his abilities , the ppl who have IP is weaker on passives and viceversa

hehe, I'm fully aware of that nothing wrong with using what you have - but my problem is that while my character is well equipped and (imo) not a gimp.. the person in control of that char needs more practice on playing it

 

[Puppet]

outgame aranging ingame fights is bannable, be sure to post a list of the users on this board so we can forward it to goa.

DAOC will never have instanced rvr unless they make it so that you don`t gain any RP.. otherwise it would just screw the ballance totally between normal players and people who give eachother 100k a day.

Screw the balance ? I wasnt aware there was balance in the first place :O

Anyhow, typical soloer in the designated areas will perhaps rack up 15~K in an evening. Most likely alot less. Not only am I missing how 15K will screw the balance, most people outside the solo-area zerging/duoing/adding rack up alot more RPs.

Anyhow I find it ironic you're the one talking about balance. Our group was fighting about 1,5 FG Albs then you come charging in with another FG to add. Was that balanced? Is a RR10 Wizard in a FG balanced against a solo Brehon Valewalker?

It is your choice to zerg/add/towerhump/bridge-camp whatever you like. Im not judging you for that. Some people have other ideas about fun in DAOC. Why do you judge them? You almost seem to say they're criminals. GOA already keeps an eye on 'us', Im sure if we do something wrong they will approach us and make that clear.

 

[Calo]

haha fun to see all the zergers crying

haha! good one gamah!

 

[pjuppe]

Again, soloing is a choice. What you want to create here is to get the benefits without having to pay the price for that choice. I'm not refering to you, but this is a typical adolescent behaviour.

No, this just allows people to have it the easy way, which I do understand but I don't condole.

I remember a few years back I saw a wall poster picturing a very lovely little girl with a sad face. Beneath it the caption wrote: "Life's cruel, live with it or kill yourself"

What you're looking for is an easy ride. I'm just saying I'm against it and pointing out some arguments.

what exactly is your problem with this? why does solo:ing have to involve getting zerged all the time? my playing experience with my huntress is buff up, go out, encounter 2-4 enemystealthers (which everyone could kill me solo i promise*) and insta die. and then i log and do something else.

if i would be able to go somewhere i would encounter 1 enemy at a time and fight them, you know what would happen then? i would have fun. what is the harm in that? i really want to know.


* really i do. i can't kill shit with my huntress. even if i use IP+FZ my target will still be around 30ish when i hit the ground.

 

[Alexandrinus]

outgame aranging ingame fights is bannable, be sure to post a list of the users on this board so we can forward it to goa.

DAOC will never have instanced rvr unless they make it so that you don`t gain any RP.. otherwise it would just screw the ballance totally between normal players and people who give eachother 100k a day.

-yes you are right its much more fun to go Bled and get killed instantly from 5 WL and 3 BD wich all ofc solo , and not OP'erd

-or go Beno where a FG of soloing Albs roam in circels at 12:00

-but now i like it that some players are not able to play outside theire 1500 clicks away from there keep

 

[brad]

outgame aranging ingame fights is bannable, be sure to post a list of the users on this board so we can forward it to goa.

DAOC will never have instanced rvr unless they make it so that you don`t gain any RP.. otherwise it would just screw the ballance totally between normal players and people who give eachother 100k a day.

Cry more tbh.

So what you worrying you know can't add on the amount of soloers you had before with your FG?

God get a grip, Why can't you just accept that not everyone likes to zerg and add 24/7 like you do?

And btw we have people already speak to GM's about this, and they said it's fine aslong as were not rp farming like bringing BB's etc to rezz, otherwise it's fine. We set out an area, and we find some solo fights, where knobs like you can't perma add on us all night.

 

[ebenezer]

i can see why some of you think this idea might look suspicious on sight, and that it also must be against mythics thinking etc I had calm nice discussions about it with people in my guild, my friends that also express some of the opinions you do. What gahn have done isnt a insta zone were we sit and farm eachother, thats not what we want at all. At least not the ones i have been talking to and i think most are in agreement over this. The idea is to choose a large zone, usually alot bigger then the "usual" solo areas were you tend to go if you didnt have this. Only difference is when you meet someone that is on the same level here you dont get the fg on you or get the fight disturbed. In no way are they also saying that other people cant enter zone. Nor will they whine about it, if someone does. if that was the case i might have had different opinions about this whole thing, since i clearly stated my opinions here on FH about "adding" before
Neither would i agree to this if it was dueling all way out. I like it to be spontaneous rvr still, and i feel that have been acomplished by this. the zone is big enough to have to search a large area before you encounter someone, and thats mostly like running beno/brynja minus the zerg you encounter there
With my hero i find this very enjoyable though im not near the rr most of the soloers in zone are. I rather buff up go all the way and have 1 nice fight, then to just be mezzed and nuked to death in 3 seconds without having a way of defending myself.
when i wanna zerg i log on my bainshee and join in on that brynja style hehe.
Anyhow, its understandable that people have opinions about it, but look into it really good, and also see what/how the game is atm and you might find a little understanding for something like this
over and out...

 

[Muylaetrix]

Screw the balance ? I wasnt aware there was balance in the first place :O

balance in this game, lol, that`s something new.

>>Anyhow, typical soloer in the designated areas will perhaps rack up 15~K in an evening. Most likely alot less. Not only am I missing how 15K will screw the balance, most people outside the solo-area zerging/duoing/adding rack up alot more RPs.

most often i don`t get 15 k in a 3 hour evening session. i SHARE every rp i earn with a lot of people generally. and i was not talking about 15 k, i was talking about people who abuse it to kill eachother every min with a bot to rezz and rebuff for 100K an hour.

>Anyhow I find it ironic you're the one talking about balance. Our group was fighting about 1,5 FG Albs then you come charging in with another FG to add. Was that balanced? Is a RR10 Wizard in a FG balanced against a solo Brehon Valewalker?

do you think i take the time to count how many people are on each side before i descide to add or not ??? if it is not 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2, i `ll probably `come to the help of realmates`.

the other day i even asked my group if we run into a visable single target without speed/stealth to just let our friar fight with out the rest of the group intervening. didn`t work out all the time. if you are not using voice come it is hard to get `don`t add` on time out really.

>>It is your choice to zerg/add/towerhump/bridge-camp whatever you like. Im not judging you for that. Some people have other ideas about fun in DAOC.

everyone is allowed his opinion, i suck in trying to explain mine. it would probably help if english was not my 3rd language.

>>Why do you judge them? You almost seem to say they're criminals. GOA already keeps an eye on 'us', Im sure if we do something wrong they will approach us and make that clear.

Consider my first post a warning to the people who would abuse the system to get 100 k an hour by commiting clear violations of CoC, not an assault on the average soloer who has a very hard time playing HIS game.

IF it works out decently, so much the better. I just don`t believe it can work without some people abusing the system.

And what about the people who don`t read FH ? There are no rules except for the CoC. Any unwriten rules are just handicaps you impose on yourself. Not everyone lives by the same code of honour.

 

[Gamah]

Stuff

Diarys of a bridge camper, I DONT MAKE 15K BECAUSE I SHARE MY RPTS WITH 100 OTHER PEOPLE, QQ!

I made 25k/hour solo on my Bainshee (overpowered etc) at a bridge zerg, so maybe try and TOA your toons :<?

It's also impossible to get 100k/hour from farming one person..you can make what like? 8k / hour. WOWOOWOW!! stop fucking press!!! 8k an hour, there will be insta rr13's!!1

What puppet was trying to say is many soloers dont give a shit about the rpts they go there for the good fights.

 

[Alexandrinus]

Not everyone lives by the same code of honour.

but it looks like alot want to share the fair fight code

 

[Muylaetrix]

Diarys of a bridge camper, I DONT MAKE 15K BECAUSE I SHARE MY RPTS WITH 100 OTHER PEOPLE, QQ!
I made 25k/hour solo on my bainshee at a bridge zerg, so maybe try and TOA your toons :<?

andhow much people did you have screaming bloody murder over abuse ? and you dear call me a bridge camper ?

And what do you know about how my toons are equiped ?

>>its also litrally impossible to get 100k/hour from farming one person..you can make what like? 8k / hour. WOWOOWOW!!

say you get 1k rp for a solo kill... how long does it take after a rezz to be worth full rp again ? 8 k an hour would imply 1 kill every.. 7.5 mins ?

how many times can 2 people kill eachother ? i am not talking about fights, talking about sitting down and letting the other one 2 shot you, and then rezz and do the same to him, over and over and over. buffs would be a waste of time as it only takes longer (more hits) to kill your dear mate and thus would reduce the amount of rp per hour.

 

[Muylaetrix]

but it looks like alot want to share the fair fight code

what is a fair fight ?

is a loc vs an ice wiz fair ?
is a BD vs a tank fair ? (that is 4 against one tbh)
is an ml10 sorc, caba, sm, chanter vs a non caster fair ? (that is 2 vs one tbh)

1 vs 1 is not fair by defenition.

NO 2 parties will ever be equallly matched because there are too many other parameters apart from pure numbers that disturb the equation.

 

[Alexandrinus]

saw alot of fair fights out there yesterday, so the fair 1-1 is possible

 

[Gamah]

andhow much people did you have screaming bloody murder over abuse ? and you dear call me a bridge camper ?

And what do you know about how my toons are equiped ?

>>its also litrally impossible to get 100k/hour from farming one person..you can make what like? 8k / hour. WOWOOWOW!!

say you get 1k rp for a solo kill... how long does it take after a rezz to be worth full rp again ? 8 k an hour would imply 1 kill every.. 7.5 mins ?

how many times can 2 people kill eachother ? i am not talking about fights, talking about sitting down and letting the other one 2 shot you, and then rezz and do the same to him, over and over and over. buffs would be a waste of time as it only takes longer (more hits) to kill your dear mate and thus would reduce the amount of rp per hour.

So according to you people who want to solo and rpt farmers are the same people?

cock.

and no you get more like 850-900 per solo kill. takes 5-7 min to be worth again so how does that = 100k/hour?

 

[Gear]

what exactly is your problem with this?

How exactly have you derived to the conclusion that I have a problem? Was just an opinion (that's what forums are about, discussing things etc)

why does solo:ing have to involve getting zerged all the time? my playing experience with my huntress is buff up, go out, encounter 2-4 enemystealthers (which everyone could kill me solo i promise*) and insta die. and then i log and do something else.

It doesn't. Again, I have described how I feel about soloing etc. If my opinion offends you in some way, maybe that's because there are no arguments to support yours?

if i would be able to go somewhere i would encounter 1 enemy at a time and fight them, you know what would happen then? i would have fun. what is the harm in that? i really want to know.

When you quote something please try to reply to it instead of ranting about something irrelevant. When you quote me, try to be precise about what you're saying. Here you're just expressing frustration of some sort.

* really i do. i can't kill shit with my huntress. even if i use IP+FZ my target will still be around 30ish when i hit the ground.

Then your problem is not the zone I'm afraid

 

[Muylaetrix]

So according to you people who want to solo and rpt farmers are the same people?

i question your reading skills at the moment. does my enlgish suck that much or are you just unwilling to grasp the things i write.

cock.

you rock.

and no you get more like 850-900 per solo kill. takes 5-7 min to be worth again so how does that = 100k/hour?

i was just presenting an extreme case.

as far as i know, you are worth full rp when no longer rezz sick... (could be wrong though) PR, cure rezz sick, ... in the old days (not sure about it now, would have to check) even purge cleared rezz sick.

i once saw a fg sending their members one by one back under the oil of a tower which had a single defender, as soon as their rezz-sick had cleared probably. must have been a happy rezzer and a very happy oiler.

seems odd though to see the same 7 people killed over and over and over by a single dude who wasn`t even level 50, at 5 o click in the morning.

 

[Neffneff]

as far as i know, you are worth full rp when no longer rezz sick... (could be wrong though) PR, cure rezz sick, ... in the old days (not sure about it now, would have to check) even purge cleared rezz sick.

rez sickness duration changes depending on what rez/PR etc is used to get you up, BUT you are not worth full RPs for 5-7 mins (cant remember exactly, know its at least 5 mins) no matter what rez method is used, so you can not be rez sick, but you are still worth reduced RPs.

 

[xxManiacxx]

think its 5min before u are worth full rps again.

 

[Muylaetrix]

oogh, that`s new to me, thanks for the info.

good thing.

 

[Zoia]

I don't think, or hope, any of the soloers going to these places will bring a bot with them.
If they do, they will most likely be killed by the others. I know i will kill any afk cleric or druid i see hidden somewhere.
The purpose of this is not to RP farm, it's simply to have a better chance at finding other soloers to fight without getting ganked by groups.

Last night, people were often watching a fight without adding, then wait for the winner to heal up so they could fight him.
That's really no different than what usually happens when some soloers meet.
We can now do it primetime without camping some empty place for an hour before we see someone, or only play late at night or early morning when everyone else has logged.

Last night i made a little over 3k/hour on my zerker...

 

[Fenderon]

It's no different than the FGs on agramon.

 

[Puppet]

most often i don`t get 15 k in a 3 hour evening session. i SHARE every rp i earn with a lot of people generally. and i was not talking about 15 k, i was talking about people who abuse it to kill eachother every min with a bot to rezz and rebuff for 100K an hour.

I also said 15K hour, probably alot less. If you have troubles getting 5K/hour then you're probably going the wrong areas or doing something wrong in general I would think. Or perhaps your group sucks, compared relatively to that soloer doing 15K. In an opted group (which you are not, Im fully aware of that) you can easily do 10K/hour and more if you go iRvR probably..

do you think i take the time to count how many people are on each side before i descide to add or not ??? if it is not 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2, i `ll probably `come to the help of realmates`.

No, and I dont blame you for adding. But you dont need to count really. If you see 1FG Hibs and they're already engaging over 1FG Albs, it should be easy to see the Hibs dont need more odds stacked up against them. If you choose to do so, fine with me (and most others), but dont talk about 'fair fights' or 'balanced numbers'.

everyone is allowed his opinion, i suck in trying to explain mine. it would probably help if english was not my 3rd language.

English is not my first language either. And I do understand you fine. One could even say English is my 3rd language, after Dutch and a small language inside Holland my parents talked at home when I lived there (Frisian)

Consider my first post a warning to the people who would abuse the system to get 100 k an hour by commiting clear violations of CoC, not an assault on the average soloer who has a very hard time playing HIS game.

100K/hour seems very unlikely tbh. Would require making a solo kill every 36 seconds. I dont see this happening, and GOA is very strict about RP-farming: During the launch of cluster several people have been banned for RP-farming 'toons of the other side'. eg. Imagine Muylaetrix-Excalibur killing Muyleatrix-Prydwen repetative in the middle of the ocean. Notice: Im not accusing you, this was a simple example. This has been done by a few people and GOA has banned them.

And what about the people who don`t read FH ? There are no rules except for the CoC. Any unwriten rules are just handicaps you impose on yourself. Not everyone lives by the same code of honour.

Agreed. Also, people charging in with a FG in the solo-area to kill the solo'ers are not doing something bannable. It might be considered lame by the solo'ers, and they might gang up towards the FG, but nothing in either the CoC or something else by GOA can stop them from doing so.

Anyhow, the solo area is often quite remote and in a silent-zone. Sometimes the area needs to change quickly, like yesterday with the Berk-attempt.

 

[Corran]

To those that think this will be abused... you can be sure that it will not, at least not while I am involved and Gahn will also be ontop of anything like that.

I personally will keep in close contact with Xalin about anything I even see as suspect and so there will not be a chance of RP farming.... want to know an average fight me and Gahn have? And we have been having 1 every 30minutes or so when both out and not much out?

We fight, 3minutes later we still fighting (He IP's, I kite and heal etc) and then just before purge timers come back up (so about 5minutes) one of us die.. more often it me at the moment as i lag but the fact is we have 5minute fights where no one interupts us. Many people will run past the fight, some stop and watch because it often is close. But the fact is we actually get to finish the fight without adds.

Yesterday I had about 15 solo fights. I probably made about 5k rp in about 3hours (with ld'in etc between). Wouldnt say that is RP farming. Think the most I saw was about 12k and that was on a high rr that could get 5+times more then that if ran in their guild groups.

During the first night I had a conversation about problems that cropped up, and we dealt with it. And since then Xalin not had a problem with what happening... well other then with me calling them a Gimp on /as

 

[Xxcalibur]

these whines about rps are retards, yesterday i played bm 2 hour and i did 3k/h.

if i want to do rps i only need to log eld and start stun nuke nuke nuke all and does easily 20k/h. Ppl dueling do not care about rps .

 

[Alme]

andhow much people did you have screaming bloody murder over abuse ? and you dear call me a bridge camper ?

And what do you know about how my toons are equiped ?

>>its also litrally impossible to get 100k/hour from farming one person..you can make what like? 8k / hour. WOWOOWOW!!

say you get 1k rp for a solo kill... how long does it take after a rezz to be worth full rp again ? 8 k an hour would imply 1 kill every.. 7.5 mins ?

how many times can 2 people kill eachother ? i am not talking about fights, talking about sitting down and letting the other one 2 shot you, and then rezz and do the same to him, over and over and over. buffs would be a waste of time as it only takes longer (more hits) to kill your dear mate and thus would reduce the amount of rp per hour.

who the fuck said anything about farming eachother? they wanna have fair duels without adds, i cant really c what that got to do with sitting down and getting farmed. im kinda impressed u manage to be so retarded tbh.