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Shagrat

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Sorry @Job but that's 2 entirely different things.

Do I agree that feminism has gone too far? On occasion, yes - but again that's because of some peoples definition of what feminism is, not feminism itself
Do I agree that women are genetically disposed to a different role, no (other than the childbirth bit that men cant do obviously, but that doesn't mean that's all the womans purpose is).



and I'm sure there are plenty of examples of men who've also gone on to marry a rich woman and live as a kept man.

Personal experience does not count as empirical proof.
 

Ormorof

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Depends what you mean by different role

Men and women do think differently but that is exactly why there should be both at all layersof an organisation otherwise you are missing a valuable viewpoint

From a purely capitalist point of view its a waste of resources to not make full use of potential workforce
 

Gwadien

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While I might question Job's motives for posting some of these links; I think you're suffering from the opposite problem "these people are the same as us apart from the funny clothes and the praying". Sorry, but it's just not true. There are lots of entirely mainstream Islamic ideals that are absolute anathema to western pluralist views, and it's a mistake to ignore that. For example, the majority of Muslims in east Asia believe leaving Islam justifies the death penalty (no freedom of conscience in Islam). It's not a fringe view at all.

I never said that Muslims were like us in the slightest I know that they do stupid shit and they need to sort alot of it out, but we need to give them time to advance their separate cultures - there's many places where theyre progressive and that's the whole issue; dealing with multiple cultures not one 'muslim' culture.

Defending Job is stupid, its like saying yeah well Hitler had a point, he wants to eradicate Muslims as a solution its fucking dangerous.
 

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To be honest, I don't see anything in that video that wouldn't be shared by Richard Dawkins on Twitter - and he's hardly a swivel eyed loon, he just doesn't like Islam, or any other form of organised religion. Must admit I tend to agree with Dawkins as well - eradicating Muslims would be a bit of a Final Solution, but eradicating Islam? When can we start?

However suggesting people should be arrested for questioning the Religion of Peace? Are you for fucking real Gwadien?
 

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To be honest, I don't see anything in that video that wouldn't be shared by Richard Dawkins on Twitter - and he's hardly a swivel eyed loon, he just doesn't like Islam, or any other form of organised religion. Must admit I tend to agree with Dawkins as well - eradicating Muslims would be a bit of a Final Solution, but eradicating Islam? When can we start?

However suggesting people should be arrested for questioning the Religion of Peace? Are you for fucking real Gwadien?

No, I'm saying when people moan about people preaching extremist Islam saying that they shouldn't be able to.

Then at the same time that person is preaching for the eradication of all followers of Islam and they find that acceptable.

Job is preaching on this forum - words are words
 

Bodhi

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No, I'm saying when people moan about people preaching extremist Islam saying that they shouldn't be able to.

Then at the same time that person is preaching for the eradication of all followers of Islam and they find that acceptable.

Job is preaching on this forum - words are words

I think you've read something into his posts that isn't there. However if you could explain to me the difference between sharing a video of an extreme Muslim cleric and going "this is a bit wrong" is any different from doing the same with videos from the Westboro Baptists Church?
 

old.user4556

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Anyone defending Islam in any way needs to have their head examined.

Whilst we're on it, this "not in my name" shite that's doing the rounds on social media - not in your name? No. In the name of your batshit mental religion? Fuck yes, and it's pissing me off that people are ignoring that.

I've said it over and over here, Islam is not a peaceful religion, anyone disagreeing with that is a fucktard.
 

Gwadien

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I think you've read something into his posts that isn't there. However if you could explain to me the difference between sharing a video of an extreme Muslim cleric and going "this is a bit wrong" is any different from doing the same with videos from the Westboro Baptists Church?

When the whole France attack happened, he clearly stated that we need a war between Muslims and the West, and we need to eradicate them.

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You've made my point completely, Job asking for the above is the same as an extreme Muslim cleric.

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree, Religion as a WHOLE needs to be eradicated (Possibly with the exception of Buddhists, those guys are chill, apart from a couple of times where they've got mental.. Annnwwayyy) BUT one does not simply go around eradicating individuals in order to remove a religion, Hitler tried that, didn't go down very well.

Islam or, possibly better stated as a living embodiment of Islam - Muslims are simply FOTCentury, for the past 2000 years, it's been focused on Jews and how they've infiltrated our countries and just benefiting from the proud native pure bloods, Islam has been the rival of Christianity, we respected them and fought them, now we see them as little other than cockroaches.

As for a serious response in a way to beat them; capitalism.

We need the west to offer the Middle East oil nations; money or religion, I can guarantee to scale down their ridiculousness slightly, they'll accept the money.

Anyway, as I said before, we have like 5 threads on the go about this topic, can we not infect this thread with it too? - It's for low-brow cycle conversations. ;)
 

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Possibly with the exception of Buddhists, those guys are chill, apart from a couple of times where they've got mental..
Are they fuck. They're just as batshit mentally murderous as any other religion and there are current examples right now of mass war crimes committed by them.
 

DaGaffer

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When the whole France attack happened, he clearly stated that we need a war between Muslims and the West, and we need to eradicate them.

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You've made my point completely, Job asking for the above is the same as an extreme Muslim cleric.

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree, Religion as a WHOLE needs to be eradicated (Possibly with the exception of Buddhists, those guys are chill, apart from a couple of times where they've got mental.. Annnwwayyy) BUT one does not simply go around eradicating individuals in order to remove a religion, Hitler tried that, didn't go down very well.

Islam or, possibly better stated as a living embodiment of Islam - Muslims are simply FOTCentury, for the past 2000 years, it's been focused on Jews and how they've infiltrated our countries and just benefiting from the proud native pure bloods, Islam has been the rival of Christianity, we respected them and fought them, now we see them as little other than cockroaches.

As for a serious response in a way to beat them; capitalism.

We need the west to offer the Middle East oil nations; money or religion, I can guarantee to scale down their ridiculousness slightly, they'll accept the money.

Anyway, as I said before, we have like 5 threads on the go about this topic, can we not infect this thread with it too? - It's for low-brow cycle conversations. ;)

Money isn't going to change anything except the ability of Islamic nations to affect western nations; taking it away won't actually change their point of view one iota. For proof you only have to look at Bangladesh, one of the most dirt poor nations on Earth that routinely murders atheists while the police look the other way.

I never said that Muslims were like us in the slightest I know that they do stupid shit and they need to sort alot of it out, but we need to give them time to advance their separate cultures - there's many places where theyre progressive and that's the whole issue; dealing with multiple cultures not one 'muslim' culture.

Defending Job is stupid, its like saying yeah well Hitler had a point, he wants to eradicate Muslims as a solution its fucking dangerous.

Please enlighten me. I can think of two functional Islamic dominated democracies (Malaysia and Indonesia) and two highly dysfunctional ones (Pakistan and Bangladesh). Other than that, autocracies all the way. And you could argue the presence of reasonably large non-muslim minority in Indonesia and Malaysia is one reason why they have a more democratic process. In meaningful terms, there's very little that's "progressive" anywhere in the Islamic world.
 

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I got my missus a proper Christian one that tells the story of the three kings / Jesus.

I am the ultimate troll.
 

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