Games The Last Remnant (PC)

[BloodOmen]

Still not played this beyond the start, just havent had time to play it properly yet

 

[Afran]

Haha aika, you fought this rare spider before? Zerging fk, it used cavalry call so much I ended up killing it 18 times

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/471/wottefokopiliones.jpg

 

[aika]

Haha aika, you fought this rare spider before? Zerging fk, it used cavalry call so much I ended up killing it 18 times

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/471/wottefokopiliones.jpg

yeah, I think I gave up at some stage

 

[Raven]

I think I will start again tonight. I have been doing lots of exploring and just killing mobs for the sake of it (its the WoW in me ) most of my toons seem to be pretty much jack of all trades really. Looking through the Wiki and the character sheets it seems I have messed a few of them up

I have not got to the aqueducts yet, play time about 25 hours (off the top of my head) but story wise not really that far in.

I guess the trick is to do as much of the story as possible at the lowest BR possible and recruit everyone you can as soon as you can?

 

[Afran]

I guess the trick is to do as much of the story as possible at the lowest BR possible and recruit everyone you can as soon as you can?

Yes. I need to start getting rep for these posts imo

Here's how I did it;

Golden rule - Avoid any fights that aren't neccesary to progress the story, this means you should end up at the Nest of Eagles at BR3. Clearing the Nest of Eagles requires mainly luck, enforce the same tactics for defeating Namul Niram; Use a sword & shield (I think it was the Commander's Rapier & Quadrashield), use the Hawk-Eye Formation (to get this collect 2 Commeradtive Medals for the Chalice Guild Task, I got mine in Dillmoor) and keep your HP up whilst slowing DPS'ing them down. It's important at the Nest to have soldiers who can use vivification herb, you want one in each union. Have David as a leader for this fight even if temporarily, a Gae Bolg will make all the difference, although I managed without it. Keeping the guest union alive is pretty useful too if only to cushion some blows whilst you take the extra unions out.

Make sure before you meet the first chokepoint at which certain quests become unavailable you have done them, I don't have a list of which do but I managed to be BR28 when finishing Wyrmskeep with 41 quests completed, I recommend you do NOT complete the Cosmos' Maiden quest as you can use that quest to constantly force spawn Bai Ze later on, he's great for skill-ups & sells for 77k gold aswell. I've killed him from BR 28 to 41

Edit: Make sure you complete Bravery & Loyalty before the Nest of Eagles. If you want Baulson, complete that quest at BR2.

 

[Afran]

A few more things worth noting;

Torgal - His best single-target Weapon Art (single target abilities being the most useful at endgame), Hawkarang, is only available if you tell him to aim for Combat Arts the two times he asks, make sure he also never casts a spell or anyone in his union casts a spell with the exception of remedies, also do not give him the Larejo Princeps you find at the Ivory Peaks in the treasure chest, the blade has a high tendancy to bug and stay with him forever, never upgrading. If you still want to go on the Hawkarang route, you'll notice he's on the right path when he switches from blades to axes, you can speed up the process (and actually improve his dps by quite a bit) by purchasing a Cimejes at Louise's Secrets in Athlum once it opens, you can do this pretty soon after the Aquaducts/Wyrmskeep. Upgrade it twice into the Seere and he'll request it, voila.

When you gear a character with an accesory it's non-exchangable, say if you give David the +3% Speed item you get at the start of the game, he's only ever going to request Speed items from then on. Speed items are gimped. Use that as an example when gearing your members, and if it's not obvious, do not use any soldiers, use 18 leaders as they can actually wear accesories.

 

[Afran]

Woot, so happy I killed The Fallen this time Gave it my 1st proper shot after my reroll at BR61 and took him down 1st time, had him flashing by the 5th round and killed on the 7th

 

[Raven]

Started again now, BR 17 and up to where I was before with a much better group set up Everyone has a role which they are sticking to. My group set ups differ slightly for now but I will play around as I go along.

Much better experience this time around

Thanks for the pointers

 

[Andrilyn]

Yeah its a real shame mixed groups become useless. You cannot utilise the arts of all of them in one move.

Unless you want to learn YouTube - SplitPlaythru: The Last Remnant - Kickass Tips (004) Definitive Guide to Learning Fatal Eclipse Arcana most powerful Arcana spell in the game as it basically does Hawkarang dps over the entire field.

 

[Afran]

Heh just completed the game, really liked the ending Re-playing on Hard now with same setup as above, had no problem at all killing anything with it really. Killed The Fallen by 7th round at BR62, cleared Ancient Ruins straight after and left at BR78 and killed the last boss soon after, did miss out on the Absolute "spoiler" though due missing one silly quest, something to look forward to fighting on Hard tho

 

[Afran]

If you want, you can allow it by editing the game files so that you can equip any of your characters, if you go too over the top you'll make the game way too easy (like giving Baulson dual Enchanted Demonblades), I'm using it though and It's nice being able to equip everyone if you don't abuse it

To allow it:

Open RushEngine.ini using notepad (found in C:\Documents and Settings\User\The Last Remnant\Rushgame\Config)

and edit this line:

bExSettingUseAllMemberEquip=FALSE

change the "FALSE" to "TRUE"

On a side note, to enable additional voice acting (a lot of which contains swear words), edit or add this line if it does not exist:

bAllowMatureLanguage=FALSE

again change the "FALSE" to "TRUE"

 

[Ch3tan]

Cheers for the mature language one

 

[Ch3tan]

Bloody hell, only BR 39 and just came across the Sledgehammer! Eek! Run away!

 

[Afran]

I could've sworn I posted like 2mins ago maybe my browser fked up.

BR only determines the mobs level and the abilities they have, so if you statgrinded at all (as I explained a page or two back) then you can essentially complete the game at around your BR

 

[Ch3tan]

I'm sure I could complete the game - I am at the storyline point after Athlum is attacked, but have not advanced back to Nagipur yet. Been doing lots of sidequests. The sledgehammer guy absolutely destroys me though, his area attack can take out 2 of my unions at once, madness!

 

[pikeh]

it all looks so complicated!

 

[Raven]

I am on BR50 odd and up to the point where I am about to be allowed to have the maximum number of group members, thanks to the tips above its shockingly easy if you specialise your union members, the only thing that can mess you up is enemies that can cast curse. Its still good but I still maintain it is miles behind final fantasy for tactics and it still feels extremely random as to the skills used. Pulling anywhere between 15k and 30k damage per union at the moment. Got 2 melee DPS groups and a healing/magic DPS group and blowing everything away.

 

[Afran]

Well mind if you avoided battles to keep BR low and then only fought tough mobs to ensure decent statgains then sure, there won't be that much of a challenge (although you'll still find Enlightened Seven, Enlightened (White) Conqueror, The Fallen (possibly), The Lost Idol (certainly), Demigod (possibly) challenging. Especially on Hard, The Lost Idol is a c*nt. Of course the damage you do per union/round is dependant on your AP, you can make your damage output more constant in various ways, the best way being have your mystic or preferably healing union learn Rejuvenating Water, as that restores AP to everyone on the battlefield. You can also use Orb to reduce AP costs but it's certainly not worth it over Battle Crown / Forcefield III. Only worth using Orb on mystic unions imo.

Oh and people knock Hard mode because it carries all your ingredients over from your last save file, essentially allowing you to create whatever. However with the perfect melee union setup, wielding a Frost Demonblade and 2x Soul Wristlet, Nest of Eagles at BR8 is a fucking joke Almost have to 100% rely on Gae Bolg to stand a chance and Fiery Idol was ridiculous ;<

 

[Andrilyn]

the only thing that can mess you up is enemies that can cast curse.

Curse is easy to deal with, send in 1 union and put the rest on standby, they will only curse you the first round so if you send a "dummy" union in it will deadlock the mob and force it to curse that union.
BTW that healer (sister of Rush forgot her name) is immune to curse.

 

[Afran]

Curse is easy to deal with, send in 1 union and put the rest on standby, they will only curse you the first round so if you send a "dummy" union in it will deadlock the mob and force it to curse that union.
BTW that healer (sister of Rush forgot her name) is immune to curse.

Gogo spoilertags?

 

[Ch3tan]

Arhhghghgh....

any tips for the gates of hell?

I have tried about 20 times now, different combinations of unions (from 5 small unions to 4 to 3 big ones), different formations, different strategies when dealing with the minions. My problem is he always takes out one of my unions with an unexpected attack, or I do not get the option to heal when I know they will need it. As soon as one union is lost and enthralled it is pointless continuing. BR 46 by the way.

 

[Afran]

Arhhghghgh....

any tips for the gates of hell?

I have tried about 20 times now, different combinations of unions (from 5 small unions to 4 to 3 big ones), different formations, different strategies when dealing with the minions. My problem is he always takes out one of my unions with an unexpected attack, or I do not get the option to heal when I know they will need it. As soon as one union is lost and enthralled it is pointless continuing. BR 46 by the way.

Which fight exactly? There are three versions of it

 

[Ch3tan]

Ahh.... fucksticks!

1st time you meet it, on normal difficulty, after going through the aquaducts under Nagipur.

 

[Afran]

I see, well;

It's quite hard to advise as I don't know what kind of characters you use nor the role's you've gone for so muh, but here's pretty generic advice for the fight - His main attacks, although not very damaging will still take out a union if you haven't ground stats/got decent gear by this point, are AoE, so having multiple smaller unions (3 members minimum) is the better option. I'd recommend have 4 unions, one of them constantly back-up healing ("Recover your health") with the rest DPS'ing and using "Keep your HP up" when it's an option. At the start have one union (preferably your toughest, something with Blocter/Baulson/Torgal/Rush in if you use them due to naturally high HP) tank the boss while the other 2 of your DPS unions take out the adds, with your 4th still on reserve healing.

As for the enslave, I really don't remember that being a problem, either I was never hit by it (I don't remember it), or I could cure it at that point... If he uses it often and you can't cure it then I guess that's your problem, which you would not be able to remedy without loading an older (pre-Wyrmskeep) save file, though I'm not 100% sure you can't just backtrack out of the keep, as I've never been in said position

 

[Ch3tan]

Basically if a union dies then the baddie revives them, but under his control, no option to rejuvenate them before he gets to them, or clear the curse.

Think I will try with more small unions, got him closer to his death that way.

 

[Afran]

Basically if a union dies then the baddie revives them, but under his control, no option to rejuvenate them before he gets to them, or clear the curse.

Oh I know how Enthrall works just don't remember it on THAT boss (could be due BR since every 9th/11th BR adds a skill to a boss, though think I was higher BR than you 1st time through and still don't remember him using it)

I think the earliest a person can learn to cure enthrall is pagus and can learn it pretty early if you disable everything except remedies (it's the option "Cure them even if it kills them!")

 

[Ch3tan]

meh - to be fair I have lost track of who is learning what. Going to play through for the storyline, then start again and actually plan who is going to do what

 

[Andrilyn]

First time I did the Gates of Hell he did enslave one of my unions also, he seems to only do it when he is on low HP (blinking red bar).
My advice is quite the opposit and use as least unions as possible (3 iirc at that stage) as if you aren't stat boosted (which you probably aren't if its your first run through) then he will wipe most unions so fast that unless you got loads of "attack from range" groups you will end up dead really fast.

Deadlock him with the Cyclopse, he can take really alot of damage and will be able to tank him throughout the fight, put your support group on recovering health or put a healer in every group however the 2nd option might decrease your dps too much.
Not much else to say than that really if you keep failing it probably means you need to go back and level some abilities to rank 4 or 5.

Don't know if it's possible but I heard people say that you can also cast Maledict on bosses and wipe them with the Curse, never tried or seen it myself but might be worth a shot if you got someone with high Psionics in your unions.

 

[Afran]

if you aren't stat boosted (which you probably aren't if its your first run through) then he will wipe most unions so fast that unless you got loads of "attack from range" groups you will end up dead really fast.

It'll make for a longer fight, but having more unions has a higher chance of leading to victory. Without stat grinding, HP will be low so any of his aoe attacks are going to have a high chance of wiping a large union whereas if you have multiple unions you can scratch him to death while ressing and there's pretty much no chance of losing

 

[Ch3tan]

I did it with 5 small unions in the end, lots of healing and a large chunk of luck -he didn't open the gate until two turns after I had finished off his minions, gave me two turns to heal and engage him in attacks.

As for the enslave, Andrilyn, he does it as a special move at the end of each round if you have any unions wiped out, red damage or not, or at least he did in all my battles.

The battles definitely get harder in the second part of the game, and I have started to reform unions based on the opposition.