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Are the current mods up to their task?


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Alan

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censi said:
The forum has gone care bear style and its run by like players solely representing the "its irvr/hes a nice guy irl" camp. We need some sensible mods who represent the honor camp because that camp is the one that matters.

Sorry but this is complete bollocks, the forum has gone from a nice community to one where people backstab each other at the first opportunity. If you were to see the amount of posts reported and their pathetic reasons you would see that the mods only react to a small handful of them.
 

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Haggus said:
No it doesn't show everything, but a rr11 player is going to know a hell of alot more than a rr2 player. Agreek ?

As for the 1337 gank groups, well yes they should be kings. I'm quite sure if they had a bigger say than the rr2 rangers saying "zomg I can't solo, plz gifv more stuffz to pwn with kthx!" this game would be alot more even. IMO anyway.

what the fuck has RR got to do with who would make the best moderator???

Thats the silliest thing Ive heard in a long time.
 

Konah

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i think when a forum FOR the players of daoc shows a 66% majority disatisfied with the way its run some serious action should be taken... tbh.

a mod "election" would seem like the best idea instead of "can i be mod? can i? plz plz? my mate is a mod? awww cmon plzzzzz!"

will still suffer from the kinda ppl the job will attract.. but at least we can get rid of a couple of the worst cases here.
 

Javai

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Tears said:
Sorry but this is complete bollocks, the forum has gone from a nice community to one where people backstab each other at the first opportunity. If you were to see the amount of posts reported and their pathetic reasons you would see that the mods only react to a small handful of them.


Sadly enough this reflects what has happen to the community in-game as well. I dare say if you could get them to tell you GoA have noticed a similar rise in people rightnow'ing emote spam etc because they don't like the player involved.
 

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Lets put this simply, the mods are here to control and moderate these boards in line with the ground rules set down by the admins and owners.

I personally have disagreed with the Mods/Admins on a number of occasions and a number of things they have said HOWEVER (with one notable exception which i regret) I've kept my mouth shut publically and dealt with it in PM's like an adult.

Any other way of dealing with it is purely showboating and attention seeking. That's a fact and if you disagree with that go look up any one of a number of psychology texts detailing human behaviour in a written medium, written by people with more letters after their name than you have in yours.

Something else to bear in mind - (whether you're 14 or 40) you're more likely to get a reasoned discussion with a mod if you PM them and say "look mate i disagree on this" than doing the equivalent internet equivalent of standing around shouting "omfg what a total retard he swore/banned me/removed rep/signature etc."

Barring a very small number who actually have geniune greviances with the mods I think the rest of you need to bloody well grow up and learn that you're a guest here - if someone walked into your living room, swore, called you a retard and behaved like a child and stamped their shit-covered boots all over your nice carpet they'd be leaving through the nearest window without it being opened.
 

vavires

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The only good mods, are the little guys who got to do their dirty work of sticking and unsticking.

And some1 here asked whos controlling the mods, normally thats the admin's job.

vav.
 

Chronictank

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not another poll about this :/
if you have a issue with a mod pm Jupitus with the complaint and a link to the original post.
If applicable any pm's with the mod in question
 

Muylaetrix

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you don`t like it ???


then what are you doing here ?:wanker:

stfu and move on.
 

Phake

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Muylaetrix said:
you don`t like it ???


then what are you doing here ?:wanker:

stfu and move on.

allways the mature things to say muylaetrix ..

anyways .. imo. . some mods are better than others .. its kinda easy to know if you have read this thread to whom the complaints are directed .. and i kinda agree with some of the complaints.

for the ppl saying start a new forum etc blah blah .. i say:
well why the fuck would we do that? .. its not like it can be greener on the other side if the fence :p .. though that dossent mean you cant improve this forum.. not saying mods should he replaced .. but mebbe the mods should represent a larger part of the community.
 

Gamah

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TheBinarySurfer said:
Lets put this simply, the mods are here to control and moderate these boards in line with the ground rules set down by the admins and owners.

I personally have disagreed with the Mods/Admins on a number of occasions and a number of things they have said HOWEVER (with one notable exception which i regret) I've kept my mouth shut publically and dealt with it in PM's like an adult.

Any other way of dealing with it is purely showboating and attention seeking. That's a fact and if you disagree with that go look up any one of a number of psychology texts detailing human behaviour in a written medium, written by people with more letters after their name than you have in yours.

Something else to bear in mind - (whether you're 14 or 40) you're more likely to get a reasoned discussion with a mod if you PM them and say "look mate i disagree on this" than doing the equivalent internet equivalent of standing around shouting "omfg what a total retard he swore/banned me/removed rep/signature etc."

Barring a very small number who actually have geniune greviances with the mods I think the rest of you need to bloody well grow up and learn that you're a guest here - if someone walked into your living room, swore, called you a retard and behaved like a child and stamped their shit-covered boots all over your nice carpet they'd be leaving through the nearest window without it being opened.

Thing is, you can have a living room without people coming into it..you cant have a forum with no community.
 

Jupitus

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We do listen to feedback and act on it if it is deemed appropriate to do so... take some of the recent structure changes, for example.

I appoint the mods myself, and certainly appreciate all the efforts they go to in keeping things sane around here, including the thankless task of being a sticky mod :)worthy: ) as well as the standard thread modding that needs to be done.

The appointed mods may have volunteered, some have not, but PMs sent to me saying 'make me a mod kkplzthx!' generally get deleted ;)

I will always investigate comments made to me about 'unfair' decisions, but it is very important to understand that we can't mod every single post or thread, but we do check all reported posts. If 2 similar posts seem to get different levels of treatment it could be down to a number of factors:

1) Person A posting first has already received a warning for particular behaviour.

2) Different mods perception - yes, they are human and have their own minds.

3) The post history for poster A shows a tendency towards flaming or other unwelcome habits.

For these reasons I rarely have to take action regarding reports of bias - furthermore I do also read almost all reported posts whether they have been handled already or not, and look out for signs of inconsistency. To be honest, I try not to step in and mod DAOC reported posts on the grounds that I would usually treat things more harshly than the others :touch: .

As was said earlier in the thread - if you have any real examples of bias let's see them - please also bear in mind that mods and admins are able to view deleted posts which can also have a bearing on how a thread may be treated - I will take this into consideration.
 

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and so amnesia strucks the same procent of whiny people all over again:) Deja vu...same discusssion...the evil circle of FH ...
Some mention freedom of speech again..people use polls etc...tries to make a riot.
Sigh hehe...i just feel like curling up in fetus position and cry in the shower tbh. This whiny bunch is totally beyong hearing anymore. And thinking it seems. Something is lost and there is no return. When even the admin tells them we dont want you cause this is beyond discussion, they still stay. Like a psycho bf that doesnt learn his gf broke up with him a year ago he stalks and still seems to think she wants him hanging around.
Incredible. almost unbelievable how thick and stubborn and childish you can become over a thing like this. What do you wanna acomplish apart from making an even more fool and spectacle over urself?
What do you want? Feel missunderstood? Want comfort? I dont know...im beginning to be confused, are you human beings? Do we all try to speak english? Cause all i see is poo flowing around in a big room and a few men called mods are trying to sort it out:p
Censi starts to adress that he and his friends with real honor are the only ones to really matters. Good comment. sets the standards, its him and HIS friends that deserves all attention, no one else is worth anything. And funny enough to use the word honor in the same sentence:p
Its like any evil dictator using words like freedom of speech or goodness or democrasy.

Apart from that i see no suprises. Its all the poeple that generally whines about adding and the "honor" in this game that goes against the mods. You are kown by all and by them. What do you expect? What do you want?
Everyone have told you a MILLION times. You can read the rules to comfort you like a autistic child that needs a scheduale to get by over the day, so can also you read it up there if you feel insecure in what to do.
Thats not enough? Ok cause we will keep telling you this a million times more. maybe thats ur point. You cant whine like you need and soooo want to, so now we gonna hear this on a regular basis everyday. is that it? you are beyond reasoning so now you just wanna sling poo?
Ok well what else then ban you to get rid of you can the mods do? Give us people that have no honor a good reason to why anyone would want you guys around...
over and out..
 

Gamah

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Jupitus said:
We do listen to feedback and act on it if it is deemed appropriate to do so... take some of the recent structure changes, for example.

I appoint the mods myself, and certainly appreciate all the efforts they go to in keeping things sane around here, including the thankless task of being a sticky mod :)worthy: ) as well as the standard thread modding that needs to be done.

The appointed mods may have volunteered, some have not, but PMs sent to me saying 'make me a mod kkplzthx!' generally get deleted ;)

I will always investigate comments made to me about 'unfair' decisions, but it is very important to understand that we can't mod every single post or thread, but we do check all reported posts. If 2 similar posts seem to get different levels of treatment it could be down to a number of factors:

1) Person A posting first has already received a warning for particular behaviour.

2) Different mods perception - yes, they are human and have their own minds.

3) The post history for poster A shows a tendency towards flaming or other unwelcome habits.

For these reasons I rarely have to take action regarding reports of bias - furthermore I do also read almost all reported posts whether they have been handled already or not, and look out for signs of inconsistency. To be honest, I try not to step in and mod DAOC reported posts on the grounds that I would usually treat things more harshly than the others :touch: .

As was said earlier in the thread - if you have any real examples of bias let's see them - please also bear in mind that mods and admins are able to view deleted posts which can also have a bearing on how a thread may be treated - I will take this into consideration.

lol such lies, when you banned me for 3 days for not flaming and I contacted you to protest you told me to go away because you were playing World Of Whorecraft :<

I shed tears (not the mod) that night, and wanked REALLY hard in anger. Thus you will shortley be recieving an invoice for a box of kleenex and medical treatment for a battered cock.
 

ebenezer

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Gamah said:
Thing is, you can have a living room without people coming into it..you cant have a forum with no community.


i think there is a large bit that would stay and abide by the rules if the " rotten eggs" disapeared. And i hope we get to test that:p Sure there will be like 50% less posts since many posts are whine. On other hand people that needs info will always check it and post raids and discuss the few intresting things that are still in game..
 

Conway

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Konah said:
i think when a forum FOR the players of daoc shows a 66% majority disatisfied with the way its run some serious action should be taken... tbh.

a mod "election" would seem like the best idea instead of "can i be mod? can i? plz plz? my mate is a mod? awww cmon plzzzzz!"

will still suffer from the kinda ppl the job will attract.. but at least we can get rid of a couple of the worst cases here.

But its 66% of the people who bother to read another thread complaining about moderation, and bother to click on the poll. That does tend to bias your result towards disatisfied.
 

ebenezer

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Gamah said:
lol such lies, when you banned me for 3 days for not flaming and I contacted you to protest you told me to go away because you were playing World Of Whorecraft :<

I shed tears (not the mod) that night, and wanked REALLY hard in anger. Thus you will shortley be recieving an invoice for a box of kleenex and medical treatment for a battered cock.

so it excited you at the same time...intresting:p?
 

ebenezer

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Conway said:
But its 66% of the people who bother to read another thread complaining about moderation, and bother to click on the poll. That does tend to bias your result towards disatisfied.

agreed. also many many people that never post here and use it just to check raids and skimm through it take no parts in such childish stuff....so there you go..
 

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Conway said:
But its 66% of the people who bother to read another thread complaining about moderation, and bother to click on the poll. That does tend to bias your result towards disatisfied.

The whole thread was introduced in a childish and unconstructive manner and that will automatically lead to a poll that is as meaningless as the ideas behind it. I am all for relaxing modding and I am sure the mods would love to relax more - but that takes a bit of responsibility.

Gamah makes a post here that made me cry laughing and I see no flame and no whine - thats the kind of forum that is cool to read. Not all this neanderthal like scratching of arses and picking of noses whilst waving clubs.
 

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thats not true, the title of the post is non bias.

agree with konah. how fucked up do things have to get before the guy who runs it will finally agree to change these mods, get some more laidback people in that have no desire to shape the forums.

does he think its an impossible job to please the community (ie we will always get a large % hating the mods on these poles) I dont think thats the case, I think if the mods just chilled out like A LOT and resisted the temptation all the damn time to show us their powah things could be better. however they wont do this, so we need mobs that will
 

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Gamah said:
I shed tears (not the mod) that night, and wanked REALLY hard in anger. Thus you will shortley be recieving an invoice for a box of kleenex and medical treatment for a battered cock.
Regardless of whatever facts may/may not be true Gamah, and as much as it pains me to do so, I have to give you rep as it made me laugh out loud. Now back to work as my boss is looking at me oddly wondering why a Quantity Surveyors Cv is amusing...
 

ebenezer

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Phake said:
allways the mature things to say muylaetrix ..

anyways .. imo. . some mods are better than others .. its kinda easy to know if you have read this thread to whom the complaints are directed .. and i kinda agree with some of the complaints.

for the ppl saying start a new forum etc blah blah .. i say:
well why the fuck would we do that? .. its not like it can be greener on the other side if the fence :p .. though that dossent mean you cant improve this forum.. not saying mods should he replaced .. but mebbe the mods should represent a larger part of the community.

meaning also the non add side? Well when you have people on "ur" side saying you are all that matters and no one else. How can you ever build anything realistic on that? Also there is no unity in "ur" side...you even bitch and moan amongst urself. Just an endless walk in quicksand and feels like you never get anywhere. Problem for the guys on "ur" side is that you have such( excuse my language) idiots in same camp. If you had only the mature guys that i seen here a few times and that wanna discuss adding and so on maybe this thing would have turned out completely differently. Problem is that if you are a whiny person and curse a lot at people i dont even expect that person to make any good arguments. So a solid discussion can never be made. Its too few that have anything intresting or mature to come up with. Maybe if you rally the mature ones and try to distance ursefl from the shitslingers then rest of the comunity and even the mods would give you some credibility:)
Sorry if by other part of comunity you didnt even mean this btw m8. If so just look away hehe:)
eb.
 

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Sharkith said:
Not all this neanderthal like scratching of arses and picking of noses whilst waving clubs.

Can I scratch your arse? :m00:

Sharkith said:
The whole thread was introduced in a childish and unconstructive manner and that will automatically lead to a poll that is as meaningless as the ideas behind it. I am all for relaxing modding and I am sure the mods would love to relax more - but that takes a bit of responsibility.

To be honest, I don't think the thread was ment to be childish in any way, the thread starter did make a constructive post imo.

But one cannot really judge moderators unless he has moderated himself. It's an awfull job really, you cannot satisfy everybody but everyone does expect to be satisfied. Some of the moderators here could indeed ponder for an extra amount of minutes before they press the delete or close button - some more common sense may be used. Also, it'd be nicer if the mods didn't play on any friendly politics - which does happen tho, I don't think anyone can deny this.
 

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Jupitus said:
We do listen to feedback and act on it if it is deemed appropriate to do so... take some of the recent structure changes, for example.

I appoint the mods myself, and certainly appreciate all the efforts they go to in keeping things sane around here, including the thankless task of being a sticky mod :)worthy: ) as well as the standard thread modding that needs to be done.

The appointed mods may have volunteered, some have not, but PMs sent to me saying 'make me a mod kkplzthx!' generally get deleted ;)

I will always investigate comments made to me about 'unfair' decisions, but it is very important to understand that we can't mod every single post or thread, but we do check all reported posts. If 2 similar posts seem to get different levels of treatment it could be down to a number of factors:

1) Person A posting first has already received a warning for particular behaviour.

2) Different mods perception - yes, they are human and have their own minds.

3) The post history for poster A shows a tendency towards flaming or other unwelcome habits.

For these reasons I rarely have to take action regarding reports of bias - furthermore I do also read almost all reported posts whether they have been handled already or not, and look out for signs of inconsistency. To be honest, I try not to step in and mod DAOC reported posts on the grounds that I would usually treat things more harshly than the others :touch: .

As was said earlier in the thread - if you have any real examples of bias let's see them - please also bear in mind that mods and admins are able to view deleted posts which can also have a bearing on how a thread may be treated - I will take this into consideration.

Im curious though... Now that you do listen to the community's feedback, how do you feel about 65% of the community disapproving of the current moderators and what action will you take?
 

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This poll was loaded in syntax and structure as was the initial post. Which is a fairer way to put things:

  • Do you support the majority of disciplinary/censorship actions taken by the Current Moderators.?
or
  • Are the current moderators up to the task?
and then a loaded anti-mod first post. If i was modding here all polls that are leading the answer would be either deleted or reworded since they meen sweet FA without neutral wording...
 

ebenezer

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Sollers said:
Im curious though... Now that you do listen to the community's feedback, how do you feel about 65% of the community disapproving of the current moderators and what action will you take?


read what people have said above about what a poll like this really represents. It doesnt represent jack shit...only the whiners and a few that reallly bother to vote and are tired of the whiners. Rest browse the forum and read through the intresting stuff and rarely post themself. Which means they are prolly satisfied also..
 

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Gamah said:
lol such lies, when you banned me for 3 days for not flaming and I contacted you to protest you told me to go away because you were playing World Of Whorecraft :<

I shed tears (not the mod) that night, and wanked REALLY hard in anger. Thus you will shortley be recieving an invoice for a box of kleenex and medical treatment for a battered cock.


:twak:

The amount of Stpudity you crammed into those few lines is realy Impressive Gamah, but then again you have practiced over a long period of time. If you had put less time in wanking and more time in trying to fomulate a non abusive reply you might get people to take you seriously.
 

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censi said:
this got me a warning. seriously theres nothing rude or offensive there what the hell is wrong with that.

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lol I don't give 2 shits about getting added on?



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pan pipe?
hmm... I've got the feeling it's about all your replies in there, and not 1 particular post since it's all a covert adding whine etc.
 
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