The current moderators

[athom]

Very mature, imitating a mod edit but your just proving how childish you are. Forum timestamps are shown in your current timezone, and the Last Edit font is smaller than post font.

rofl GJ colombus.... is this some kind of sad attempt of proving that you arent 100% braindead? next time just skip my posts cus im prolly not s-e-r-i-o-u-s

 

[athom]

lol @ these mods. edit posts for own interests and then lock the thread... seriously. Lo bestest forum in the whole world :england: givf spanish flag

or well, i actually ment this... cus thats what happened to marils post

 

[Infanity]

Dont like it, Host your own forum ?

Sorry but people whine like fuck but the mods delete whats needed and block shit.

if it was a forum you payed for fair enough complain!

 

[Straef]

Sucking the mods is fotm!

It's nothing compared to sucking off Ging tho
But even tho I think they could ease up on the locking, I think they're doing alright overall. As far as I can remember nobody got banned without a proper reason, or anything like that.

 

[Kuhan]

but if a person trys turning a thread into a flame cant they just delete the posts and let the thread carry on? :england:

 

[Straef]

Most dont like them (including me) because they take the fun out of the forum and they do it in a manner which to me smells of epeen...

Jupitus I simply cannot understand whats wrong with you here. Your customers (forum members are telling you theres a problem). If I read the way people describe the problem it seems 99% of the complaint posts are calm and senisble.

I mean telling 70 of your customer to "fuck off" because they didnt think your mods were doing a good job is just crazy.

You need to perhaps consider listening to the community rather than sticking your fingers up at it. Just read what people are telling you ffs and think about it for a minute. The fact this issue keeps rearing its head rather than fading away tells its own story.

The thing is, anyone not paying for their FH subscription (you and me, for starters) is being done a favour, rather than buying some sort of service.
I'll probably get blamed for sucking up to the mods again, but that's the way it is. I work in a store, and if someone expects me to help him out I'm not obliged to do so, and whether I help or not just depends on whether I can be arsed, while I actually consider people customers if they bought something, and I'll be more likely to help an anoying paying customer, than some anoying person who won't get me anything.

 

[Straef]

And 5% of the population here might have a valid complaint which should be listened to..

Much like anything else however, if you take a valid complaint, then try to put it across using a mob of people who are either sheeplike following the current whine, or unable to construct a sentance that doesn't insult someone it's not going to get very far.

I'm also fairly sure that if 60% of the kids went home whining to their parents that the teachers wouldn't let them fight with each other they would be laughed at in the same way. I'm not saying the mods are perfect, i'm not saying they have always been right. I'm simply saying that at least 50% (probably closer to 80%) of the "the mods are crap" votes are simply from people who either have a personal vendetta against mod X because they stopped their precious whine or people who want to "look cool" in front of the cool kids.

All complaints are valid. Why would a sincere complaint not be valid? Whether someone posts a full page of valid arguments along with ways to improve a situation, or complains about mods being ***** or adding being shit, it's a proper complaint ass long as someone is sincerely bothered by it. The only thing is that those complaints tend to be posted as single-line posts without the slightest bit of constructive feedback as to improve the situation.
And sure, you're not very likely to get supported if you plan on beating the shit out of eachother, but I think a whine thread on FH is more like a debate than a physical fight, which is actually promoted, rather than denied.
If someone has a 'personal vendetta' against a mod because a certain post got removed or some thread got removed, it's his opinion that the decision to remove/close was unfair, which is an opinion like any other, rather than just a childish way to gain attention.

Very mature, imitating a mod edit but your just proving how childish you are. Forum timestamps are shown in your current timezone, and the Last Edit font is smaller than post font.

I thought it was funny

lol

I love these threads.

Did it get you some +rep, then?

 

[Dave J.]

And 5% of the population here might have a valid complaint which should be listened to..

Maybe its those 5% that should make a few forum then, eh

 

[Tilda]

Most dont like them (including me) because they take the fun out of the forum and they do it in a manner which to me smells of epeen...

Jupitus I simply cannot understand whats wrong with you here. Your customers (forum members are telling you theres a problem). If I read the way people describe the problem it seems 99% of the complaint posts are calm and senisble.

I mean telling 70 of your customer to "fuck off" because they didnt think your mods were doing a good job is just crazy.

You need to perhaps consider listening to the community rather than sticking your fingers up at it. Just read what people are telling you ffs and think about it for a minute. The fact this issue keeps rearing its head rather than fading away tells its own story.

Fact is 90% of the daoc group have not contributed a fucking penny towards the upkeep of the forums, therefore they are not FH's customers, therefore it dosn't matter a jot what they think.
Perhaps we should hold mod-elections however you only get a vote if you have payed your £10 to register...

 

[Kuhan]

Fact is 90% of the daoc group have not contributed a fucking penny towards the upkeep of the forums, therefore they are not FH's customers, therefore it dosn't matter a jot what they think.
Perhaps we should hold mod-elections however you only get a vote if you have payed your £10 to register...

but Freddys house is doing GOA's Job while VN boards is doing Mythics job so imo GoA should be paying Freddys house for hosting these forums.

 

[athom]

Fact is 90% of the daoc group have not contributed a fucking penny towards the upkeep of the forums, therefore they are not FH's customers, therefore it dosn't matter a jot what they think.
Perhaps we should hold mod-elections however you only get a vote if you have payed your £10 to register...

i wonder how many of the 33% that actually likes these mods, would pay 10£ to the site :england: (where is the spanish flag?)

 

[fl3a]

Fact is 90% of the daoc group have not contributed a fucking penny towards the upkeep of the forums, therefore they are not FH's customers, therefore it dosn't matter a jot what they think.
Perhaps we should hold mod-elections however you only get a vote if you have payed your £10 to register...

you really dont get it, do you.
people who havent payed ARE CAPABLE OF HAVING GOOD IDEAS. period. everything said by non-paying accounts should not be disregarded as bullshit, and if we have an idea that could possibly make the forum a better place for everyone (even the current mods!) it would be better tactics to try to understand for a second before telling us to fuck off.

ps. please dont ban me for using caps or saying bullshit

 

[Dallas]

ps. please dont ban me for using caps or saying bullshit

You didnt say fucktard, so your safe.

 

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sorry for not being a millionaire tilda

 

[eggy]

I think some of you guys have far too much time on your hands.

 

[Straef]

but Freddys house is doing GOA's Job while VN boards is doing Mythics job so imo GoA should be paying Freddys house for hosting these forums.

Should, but aren't Life isn't fair.

 

[Golena]

I'd say you have a very biased (and wrong) view of certain groups of people (who I know are *generally* much older and much more intelligent than you give them credit for). Just because one or two are "daft" shouldnt lead to generalisation from you. I think the general feeling of those against the mods is that they mostly do a sterling job, but one or two seem to have their own reasons for modding - which is when things start to go off at a tangent.

You seem fairly inteligent so i'm also sure that you'll be able to see that problems people have with one or two mods having their own reasons for modding is unlikely to be resolved in a poll entitled "are the mods incompetent". People then pointing at the number of people voting yes, and shouting haha see I was right really arn't making any point other than the rather obvious "people vote when unhappy and don't when happy". It's like making a poll "Do you answer polls?" and then saying everyone answers polls and you have proof, look!

If the vote was enforced across every member of FH then i'm sure the numbers would be rather different, as such what does this thread actually do other than give people who dislike the mods a chance to vent at them.

People seem all to eager to point at a mistake a mod might have made in one post.. i'm sure if you looked at the post histories of most of people here you'd be able to find far worse examples from most of the complainers.

I'm actually not generalising against anyone capable of making a decent argument, if the people I am generalising against are older than I give them credit for then god help us all! As an example, someone old enough to hold down a job, with a reasonalbe level of intellegence really doesn't need to make their point in a thread starting "dear fucktard".
Still no-one has bothered answering the obvious question.. if the modding really is killing all the fun here and as you say, they are from older more intelligent people, why do they keep coming here and posting threads that get locked. It's not hard or difficult to set up an internet forum, and if as many people as seem to be implied really think it's the mods that's the issue, it shouldn't be too hard to get them to update a link to the new forums.
The only reasons for not doing it is that the mods here are doing a better job than you could do without them, or that whining at the mods is actually why you come here.

 

[Golena]

I think some of you guys have far too much time on your hands.

I blame albs for taking the relics..

If the albs hadn't taken the relics the mids could still RvR occasionally and wouldn't have to come here to whine instead!!

 

[Straef]

I think some of you guys have far too much time on your hands.

And why is that? For replying in this thread? It only takes a few seconds/minutes to come up with a proper reply, which I'd hardly consider a vast amount of time, while you're the one posting 'give me rep' pictures/threads and editing posts besides doing your job as a mod.
You seem to be spending a lot more time on here than the majority of the people replying, so what made you come up with that reply?

 

[ebenezer]

You seem fairly inteligent so i'm also sure that you'll be able to see that problems people have with one or two mods having their own reasons for modding is unlikely to be resolved in a poll entitled "are the mods incompetent". People then pointing at the number of people voting yes, and shouting haha see I was right really arn't making any point other than the rather obvious "people vote when unhappy and don't when happy". It's like making a poll "Do you answer polls?" and then saying everyone answers polls and you have proof, look!

If the vote was enforced across every member of FH then i'm sure the numbers would be rather different, as such what does this thread actually do other than give people who dislike the mods a chance to vent at them.

People seem all to eager to point at a mistake a mod might have made in one post.. i'm sure if you looked at the post histories of most of people here you'd be able to find far worse examples from most of the complainers.

I'm actually not generalising against anyone capable of making a decent argument, if the people I am generalising against are older than I give them credit for then god help us all! As an example, someone old enough to hold down a job, with a reasonalbe level of intellegence really doesn't need to make their point in a thread starting "dear fucktard".
Still no-one has bothered answering the obvious question.. if the modding really is killing all the fun here and as you say, they are from older more intelligent people, why do they keep coming here and posting threads that get locked. It's not hard or difficult to set up an internet forum, and if as many people as seem to be implied really think it's the mods that's the issue, it shouldn't be too hard to get them to update a link to the new forums.
The only reasons for not doing it is that the mods here are doing a better job than you could do without them, or that whining at the mods is actually why you come here.

and they are still avoiding the subject yes hehe. I doubt we are gonna get an answer to the "alternative" forum. I think i know what the answer is though. Since 90% of all whines are without a doubt add whine in one form or another, they could never think about going another forum since tadaaaa: the guys they wanna whine on are most likely not gonna be there to hear them out And thats the key thing in the drama. A forum for them to ventilate that rvr frustration to their likes and hopefully the guy they are angry on.
So..not likely they are gonna move. But lets hope
eb.

 

[Hestethun]

Fact is 90% of the daoc group have not contributed a fucking penny towards the upkeep of the forums, therefore they are not FH's customers, therefore it dosn't matter a jot what they think.
Perhaps we should hold mod-elections however you only get a vote if you have payed your £10 to register...

So what happens if im a paying customer , can i then complain and the complaint will actually be dealth with or will i get fo there too , so lets say i hate u then Tilda(wich i dont) , then i can send in a complaint , and as i am paying customer wot will happend then ?

 

[Congax]

That wasn't even coming close to being funny, Eggy..:|

 

[Bracken]

On the whole I think the mods do fine. Sure they make mistakes (I've recently completely disagreed with one over an issue) but generally they do a decent job - and polls like this are just laughable.

 

[eggy]

That wasn't even coming close to being funny, Eggy..:|

lol I know, you're right. I deleted it, probably breaking a few copyright rules myself

 

[Zede]

Ok I had a bad experience with what i thought an over zealous mod.

I dont immediately think that all mods are bad though.

A forum like this is just like real life...no body is perfect. Mods are just normal people ( i hope !) and prone to the same shit happening that happens to all of us.

Christ just look at the UK government, paid supposedly intelligent people -all a bunch of feckin nitwits, looking elsewhere in world all around u, human nature going on everywhere - things aint gonna change - thats for sure, so live with it or move to a new game/new forum - thats life !

 

[Congax]

lol I know, you're right. I deleted it, probably breaking a few copyright rules myself

Who knows, the customer could've been some prominent FH visitor

 

[Golena]

lol I know, you're right. I deleted it, probably breaking a few copyright rules myself

See.. I fail to update the forum for 3 minutes and I miss eggy posting something inappropriate!!

I take it back, the mods suck!

 

[Congax]

See.. I fail to update the forum for 3 minutes and I miss eggy posting something inappropriate!!

I take it back, the mods suck!

It was so inappropriate it made me hurl :< really!

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

This thread is utterly boring....

If you don't like it here and feel the need to question mod's behaviour time after time in thesame unappropriate manner, please, by all means, leave!

 

[vavires]

Fact is 90% of the daoc group have not contributed a fucking penny towards the upkeep of the forums, therefore they are not FH's customers, therefore it dosn't matter a jot what they think.
Perhaps we should hold mod-elections however you only get a vote if you have payed your £10 to register...

First of all,

I dont have any issues with the mods here,

Secondly,
Why would we pay, if we dont have to?.
I think if you would make FH a paying site, u would loose it fast as i dont think ppl cba to pay for "just" a forum.

Thirdly,
Every1 has right on his/her own opinion. So 1 saying he is not happy with the current mods is his/her right. At best u can learn something and maybe adept to it.

Vav.