Yeah yeah. I don't actually think Liverpool supporters crow about it, I think everyone else does, probably because it's fun to think of Liverpool supporters that wayMost supporters of other teams don't want Liverpool to win, simply because as I've stated before you wouldn't shut up about it for the next 30 years even if you didn't win it again.
Yeah yeah. I don't actually think Liverpool supporters crow about it, I think everyone else does, probably because it's fun to think of Liverpool supporters that way
Shows how infantile our level of public discussion has become when race can't be mentioned in a positive light.
Big, black and brave makes a reference to skin colour, but not in a negative way. And racism is reference to someones colour in a derogatory or descriminatory manner.
References to someones skin colour in a positive description is in no way racist. Tom Elliot, in my predominantly white country, sounds like a white guy. Big, black and brave tells me that he's a big lad, a brave lad and a black lad. Gives me a good picture to base the guy on.
Or are we supposed to be actually completely colour blind? How are my eyes not going to notice the colour of objects that they look at?
Don't feel bad. Bayern does that to other teamsEvery time I watch liverpool recently it's been pretty painful watching
0-0, 25 mins in. I'd say Bayern look the better side.
I'm not one of the folk offended by this, but I (think) understand it, why even bring up his race at all? Black isn't exactly a characteristic like being big and brave is. Would anyone ever say "look at that big, brave, white guy" in relation to a big brave white guy? I doubt it.Shows how infantile our level of public discussion has become when race can't be mentioned in a positive light.
Big, black and brave makes a reference to skin colour, but not in a negative way. And racism is reference to someones colour in a derogatory or descriminatory manner.
References to someones skin colour in a positive description is in no way racist. Tom Elliot, in my predominantly white country, sounds like a white guy. Big, black and brave tells me that he's a big lad, a brave lad and a black lad. Gives me a good picture to base the guy on.
Or are we supposed to be actually completely colour blind? How are my eyes not going to notice the colour of objects that they look at?
There's an assumption that people are white in a country with 90% (or whatever) white people - and if you're on radio, trying to paint a picture of someone then their skin colour is relevant necessary information.I'm not one of the folk offended by this, but I (think) understand it, why even bring up his race at all? Black isn't exactly a characteristic like being big and brave is. Would anyone ever say "look at that big, brave, white guy" in relation to a big brave white guy? I doubt it.
I'm in no way suggesting it was racist, that's just ridiculous. A bit like the whole 'controversy' if you could even call it that. Shit I'd never have known about it but for this thread.There's an assumption that people are white in a country with 90% (or whatever) white people - and if you're on radio, trying to paint a picture of someone then their skin colour is relevant necessary information.
If Motty was Rawandan, and the Rawandan Premier League was on, and you were playing for Rawandacastle, then RawandaMotty might say "Billargh, he's the podgy, talentless white guy who can't hit an elephant's arse with a banjo" to describe him to the Rawandan radio audience.
Or something.
But that wouldn't be racist - it's just a relevant statement of fact. - When you're describing how someone looks, how they, you know, actually look, is relevant.
Wow, jealous much?I see Fulham have sacked their manager again.
I see Fulham have sacked their manager again.
Sounds like a season of old:Fuck me...this is turning into a great season
andMichael Owen said:With a neutral head on it's not a penalty in a million years.
Owen Hargreaves said:I think you'll struggle to find someone who has played football who think that's a penalty. Every football player will say that's not a penalty
It was a clear penalty, which the ref gave after seeing it slow motion. Jumps up, back turned, arms flailing and the ball connects to an arm, which is not tugged in to the body. How is that not a penalty?Sounds like a season of old:
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Good to see that VAR is definitely clearing this shit up.
Money well spent.