Football The 2012 / 2013 Season Thread
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Hawkwind
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Makes me laugh all these comments on whether Fergie was a great manager or not. He won trophies and titles. As such he will go down as one of the greats. In football that is the only benchmark to measure success. You don't take into account what money they had to spend vs other clubs. In Man Utd's case quite a few of their best players were not the expensive ones, Ronaldo being one of the exceptions.
Same way people don't take into account the cars when discussing F1 drivers, history records the winners/titles.
Same way people don't take into account the cars when discussing F1 drivers, history records the winners/titles.
Hawkwind
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Not for some countries - ask any Australian or Canadian about their draconian tax laws. UK the rule was 1/6th of a tax year. In the country any longer than that (65 days) and you were liable for UK income tax. May have changed, last UK tax return I filed was in 2005
DaGaffer
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Not for some countries - ask any Australian or Canadian about their draconian tax laws. UK the rule was 1/6th of a tax year. In the country any longer than that (65 days) and you were liable for UK income tax. May have changed, last UK tax return I filed was in 2005
Its half the year now. 183 days to be specific. I think that's an EU rule, because its the same number for Ireland and I've just checked and its the same for France.
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Petrov has had to retire. That is a shame he always seemed like a good pro and a nice guy.
Petrov has had to retire. That is a shame he always seemed like a good pro and a nice guy.
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Interesting, just hope the UK does not adopt the tax on expatriates any time soon. They have talked about it. Will have to sell my house in the UK and move any funds offshore if that ever happens. As the only way around it is to sever all ties
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yep, he didn't spend as much as a lot of other premiership clubs and won a fuck ton more than them.
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Realistically Sir Alex will be in the background pulling the strings - Moyes is going to be the puppet.
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Confirmed leaving Everton. And interest for Man U job - but not actually confirmed yet
Wayne Rooney has taken the "Manchester united player" bit off his Twitter bio: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/09/wayne-rooney-twitter-manchester-united
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Where? Its confirmed Moyes is leaving Everton...
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Someone on the official Man Utd page accidently updated the cover image "welcome to new manager David Moyes"
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Seems Man U have now confirmed his appointment.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...-united-appoints-new-manager-david-moyes.aspx
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...-united-appoints-new-manager-david-moyes.aspx
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So, who's Moyes going to buy then? Rooney will be gone, along with Nani and Anderson. Moyes does like playing with a lot of width, so I could definitely see a shakeup there. Bale would fit right into a Moyles style team...
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Interesting, just hope the UK does not adopt the tax on expatriates any time soon. They have talked about it. Will have to sell my house in the UK and move any funds offshore if that ever happens. As the only way around it is to sever all ties
Could you not sell it to a non-UK registered company or something like that?
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Yes, but that's the problem. You can only play those games so often, and when he did it last, United had just lost Ronaldo and Tevez, so he was in a position of strength; he's not now. If anything, the way he's been played this season shows his position is weakening all the time (and also shows replacing him with a Modric or similar actually makes more sense).
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Are you fucking retarded? How can you be so far off the point I was making?
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Considering he lost a libel case brought by Moyes, who Rooney alleged was overbearing and controlling (and Fergie isn't?), I doubt he'll be hanging around.
Sod off, you can't have him.
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Seems like there might be a lot of work for Moyes over the next couple of seasons. Anderson and Nani looked set to leave although could change under new management, Scholes will probably also be off. Their current core of Rio - Carrick - RVP are all fairly old and they'll need to consider thinking of replacing them. Giggs and Evra can't carry on forever, and then there's Rooney.
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Well a good start would be to flog Rooney to PSG for 40m and use that to buy Baines and Fallaini. I'm sure they'll add another forward as well (although I very much doubt it will be Ronaldo). The Rio/Vidic replacement cycle is already underway, and Carrick is only getting better (and he's not a pace player, so he probably has a good few years in him). Its actually the wide players where there are issues; Young had a good start but has fallen away, and Valencia has had a shit season by his standards (although he's got a bit better towards the end of the season).
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Grateful to Moyes for all the work he's put in over the years, he has changed our team into a solid top 10 team who is trying to always push into Europe, as well as finishing above Liverpool a few times, that's always a bonus.
I am concerned though some of our team will be following suit though, Baines and Fellaini for sure. I just hope we don't sell them on cheaply and i hope we can replace with quality rather than quantity to keep up the pace as to not undo the past decade.
It was time for Moyes to perhaps move on, but the replacement options don't half concern me. I don't think i'd fancy Martinez or O'Neill, maybe the two managers i wouldn't mind would be OGS or Laudrup. Mourinho did say he was coming back to where he loved though... I didn't half love him when he was over here so....
I am concerned though some of our team will be following suit though, Baines and Fellaini for sure. I just hope we don't sell them on cheaply and i hope we can replace with quality rather than quantity to keep up the pace as to not undo the past decade.
It was time for Moyes to perhaps move on, but the replacement options don't half concern me. I don't think i'd fancy Martinez or O'Neill, maybe the two managers i wouldn't mind would be OGS or Laudrup. Mourinho did say he was coming back to where he loved though... I didn't half love him when he was over here so....
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I've really never been able to work out what people see in Martinez. Yes he's got Wigan playing attractive football and inspires them at the back of the season blah blah, but he seems to struggle with the concept of defence. Maybe the "d" pages are missing from his Spanish-English phrasebook?