Luz said:basicly it´s whining in alliance chat to force few more out.
we regulary ban people from guilds that dont help.
we use pryd.net to flame and humiliate people that dont help.
we have a proffesionall hax0rer that steals their login and sells all their stuff to merchants and destroys their artifacts.
And then last of all we send hitmen to beat them up IRL and tie them to their PC forcing them to RvR and drink oil.
If that doesn't work, Gwennethe cries at them until they give in and die for Hibernia. <grins>