Strafing in RvR.

[xianghua]

Originally posted by Tyka
Xianghua, no offense, but if you played the game I surely have not heard of you ever this much and same can be said about your guildmates, as we do now. Nothing wrong with that, I don't really mind but what I'm trying to say here is: It's not we that got to prove if we will whine or not, because we been here and done that, had our nerfs and got beaten up bad (all part of the game), but you on the other hand, have to prove that you can keep the guild up and keep things going, even when you get nerfed hard, only time will tell.

Anyways respect, keep on playing

maybe cuz we didn´t got stuck on the same char for 2 years =)
i myself didn´t play excal for over 1 year

no offense but it isn´t hard at all to become well known and very high rr when you only play 1 class over all the time since release

no i dont wanna say all hibs only got 1 char that would be bullshit

but be honest how many of the rr9-10 ppl got an alt above rr6 ?

rr doesn´t say ANYTHING about skill its just a sign of how much afford you put in the game

~~Excalibur~~
Seltir lvl 50 Healer r6lx <Jack Herer>
Hatchetdwarf lvl 50 Skald r6lx <inactive>

~~Prydwen~~
GM of Conquest
Xianghua lvl 50 Heroine r7lx <inactive>
Nookah lvl 50 Chanter r3lx <inactive>

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
you cannot get owned by a savage grp, if u kill a savage grp on the other hand...thats owned.

:great:

 

[Vodor]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
The reason DH challenge you is cos they run a set grp every single night, have played together for a long long time, have 3 rr 11 mages etc etc. I have played in JH grps and you are in no way superior in skills to the players i play with in vgn. You just play more powerful classes.

Youve played in JH groups around 3 times fluid that doesnt excactly give you an impression and please dont compare the VGN support players to the Jack Herer ones its just plain insulting.

Poon

 

[Vodor]

Oh and Konah with your group realm rank average and your setup and ra's you have no excuse for losing to any Savage group on this server.

Poon

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by xianghua
maybe cuz we didn´t got stuck on the same char for 2 years =)
i myself didn´t play excal for over 1 year

no offense but it isn´t hard at all to become well known and very high rr when you only play 1 class over all the time since release

no i dont wanna say all hibs only got 1 char that would be bullshit

but be honest how many of the rr9-10 ppl got an alt above rr6 ?

rr doesn´t say ANYTHING about skill its just a sign of how much afford you put in the game

~~Excalibur~~
Seltir lvl 50 Healer r6lx <Jack Herer>
Hatchetdwarf lvl 50 Skald r6lx <inactive>

~~Prydwen~~
GM of Conquest
Xianghua lvl 50 Heroine r7lx <inactive>
Nookah lvl 50 Chanter r3lx <inactive>

are you wordblind or sumt?

to me atleast, it seems that tykas point is that VGN has survived the good times and the bad, being uber and being the underdog. Jh hasnt yet.
Correct me if im wrong

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by Vodor
Youve played in JH groups around 3 times fluid that doesnt excactly give you an impression and please dont compare the VGN support players to the Jack Herer ones its just plain insulting.

Poon

knudden, pbuck, fame, don, gilead etc are all just as good as any JH healer from what i have seen from both sides of the fence, you have a very good pac healer and 2 good aug/mend healers who i think stand out, you know who they are as do i, but i won't mention names. theres a lot of difference in play too, its a damn sight harder to keep a mage alive with 3 savages stuck to him than to heal savages/interupt a pb box.

 

[faderullan]

Originally posted by xianghua

but be honest how many of the rr9-10 ppl got an alt above rr6 ?

rr10 merc + rr8 minstrel + rr6 cleric ^^

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by faderullan
rr10 merc + rr8 minstrel + rr6 cleric ^^

some people just have too much free time don't they

 

[Vodor]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
knudden, pbuck, fame, don, gilead etc are all just as good as any JH healer from what i have seen from both sides of the fence, you have a very good pac healer and 2 good aug/mend healers who i think stand out, you know who they are as do i, but i won't mention names. theres a lot of difference in play too, its a damn sight harder to keep a mage alive with 3 savages stuck to him than to heal savages/interupt a pb box.

I shouldnt have said support as ye have some good bards, i'll say druids

Poon

 

[thorwyntf]

exec BW_forum

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if found String(´Stealther´) or string(´alarmclock´) or String(´zerg´) or String(´strafing´) then init Flamewar
if found String(´lame mids´) or String(´lame Alb) then recompile App(´Glottis´) to Forum
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[Arnor]

Originally posted by Vodor
I shouldnt have said support as ye have some good bards, i'll say druids

Poon

mEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by Vodor
Oh and Konah with your group realm rank average and your setup and ra's you have no excuse for losing to any Savage group on this server.

Poon

you've never been hit by a 2-3 rr8+ savage assist train have you?

everything in the grp insta-dies without bof up.

fuckwit.

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by Amadon
irony escapes you I guess?

Irony is fine I dont have a sense of humour tho..

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by Vodor
We know what assumption is the mother of

Poon

erm is it cuttlefish?

 

[Asha]

Originally posted by Vodor
Oh and Konah with your group realm rank average and your setup and ra's you have no excuse for losing to any Savage group on this server.

Poon

kinda hard to beat something you can't HIT

 

[duact]

Originally posted by K0nah
you've never been hit by a 2-3 rr8+ savage assist train have you?

everything in the grp insta-dies without bof up.

fuckwit.

then use bof and stop crying

 

[Aussie-]

aye our anytime RA's

 

[duact]

just to recharge at atk

 

[alithiel50]

Originally posted by duact
then use bof and stop crying

The fact that Albion RA's are considered necessary for us to have a chance, while Mid/Hib RA's are handy tools to get them out of a trouble if things go bad, just show's that theres a significant imbalance...

 

[Divinia]

this is how a strafer looks irl: (to the right, and u can clearly see that strafers are gay also)

 

[Aussie-]

seek help div

 

[hotrat]

Originally posted by Vodor
Oh and Konah with your group realm rank average and your setup and ra's you have no excuse for losing to any Savage group on this server.

Poon

Poon have you even spoken to Mumin recently? Savages with melee relics are beyond overpowered, the JH savage assist train can kill any class in less than 5 seconds, bof or no bof it doesn't matter. Its exactly like it was when zerkers had pre-nerf LA, possibly even worse as savages have a rear stun style that goes off even when your /facing them and far greater defence and an end shout.

Any mid group that loses with a 3 healer 3 savage setup has not only lost but been very badly owned.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by hotrat
Any mid group that loses with a 3 healer 3 savage setup has not only lost but been very badly owned.

 

[faderullan]

Stop whining you albs. Its not like its impossible to kill a mid group. Use your theurgist. Thats the key.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by faderullan
Stop whining you albs. Its not like its impossible to kill a mid group. Use your theurgist. Thats the key.

one Q, what theurgist?

 

[Kallio]

Originally posted by Arnor
one Q, what theurgist?

I´m confused...

PIN!!!!!

 

[faderullan]

I have 2 theurgists to choose from. The rest on prydwen just arent good enough.

 

[hotrat]

Originally posted by faderullan
Stop whining you albs. Its not like its impossible to kill a mid group. Use your theurgist. Thats the key.

Interupting healers is not the problem, its more a matter of stopping the savages killing your offense (usually mercs), which means keeping your clerics uninterupted.

 

[faderullan]

Theurgist interupt all healers+shaman

Merc assist on ma savage with dt and pf

Bof on

Either the savage turn and hit back. With bof and pala guard you cant die. After a while when healers insta heals are gone the savage die. Off to next savage. Res sick or pr'd savages are no problem.

= you win

Very very rare we need to use more then 1 bof. So we can manage 2 "fotm" groups per 30mins.

(We save sos for the hibs)

 

[hotrat]

Originally posted by faderullan
With bof and pala guard you cant die.

The flaw in your plan, we are talking a 4 savage 3 healer 1 shaman group here, and of course the savage you are hitting will fire his resists shouts, evade shout and parry shout and he will strafe around loads making it very hard to style.

Its basically 3 merc and a pala vs 4 savages with all support interupting each other. I put my money on the savages, even with BoF.