Some thoughts on 'adding'...

[noaim]

and your rr10/11 group ruins fights for solo'ers/mini groups/rog groups, get over it already



and i really couldnt care less what some random thinks about me. i play the way i like and will continue to play the way i like, if you dont like it then tough i am afraid.

I still dont see what you are on about, as I said, I havent whined about getting zerged, I said grps that claim they dont add on fg fights, and then adds anyways annoy me, what is it you cant understand?

 

[Raven]

the bit where your a hypocrit because you so the exact same thing to people you "dont know"

 

[noaim]

the bit where your a hypocrit because you so the exact same thing to people you "dont know"

How am I a hypocrit when I never claimed that I dont?

 

[Raven]

if you do why the fuck are you complaining about it?

 

[noaim]

if you dont why the fuck are you complaining about it?

Seems you are grasping for straws here just to try to get some insults away. I never claimed that I dont kill soloers when I run in fg, I said that I dislike irvr, that I get annoyed by people who claim the dont add on fg fights but still do, and that I rather log than play if we just go to zergy areas.
I fully expect any soloer that we killed to add on us later, and I wouldnt bitch about it for obvious reasons.

I dont see how I am a hypocrit for that, but hey, keep up the good work, you seem to spend alot of energy to prove that some random you dont care about is a hypocrit.

 

[Marc]

hahahahahahahahahah at all the self righteous bullshit from groups who have no problem running down mini groups or duos. And you wonder why people still add on you?

 

[Phake]

aaah marc .. tbh .. if u descide to group u also need to know that u ultimately come up to the next stage of RvR whish means FGs will kill you .. or atleast we do .. you need to draw a line somewhere .. if its a soloer its a nono to kill for us .. that is if its not someone we really do dislike! .. if its a duo .. its killable .. simply coz they are grouped ..

we have drawn the line there .. coz what if a group comes with like 6 ppl and a few pets .. shouldent we attack them then? .. so there is the line atleast from our guildgroup.

ooh edit: marc ur retarded imo. . thanks

 

[Marc]

aaah marc .. tbh .. if u descide to group u also need to know that u ultimately come up to the next stage of RvR whish means FGs will kill you .. or atleast we do .. you need to draw a line somewhere .. if its a soloer its a nono to kill for us .. that is if its not someone we really do dislike! .. if its a duo .. its killable .. simply coz they are grouped ..

we have drawn the line there .. coz what if a group comes with like 6 ppl and a few pets .. shouldent we attack them then? .. so there is the line atleast from our guildgroup.

ooh edit: marc ur retarded imo. . thanks

I have no fucking idea what you just said. Maybe you should stick to what you do best, shouting "DONT FUCKING ADD, FAOD IRL" as soon as someone comes into clip range. Fcking nerd.

 

[Vodkafairy]

I have no fucking idea what you just said. Maybe you should stick to what you do best, shouting "DONT FUCKING ADD, FAOD IRL" as soon as someone comes into clip range. Fcking nerd.

you're such a hero, acting like a bigboy on an internet forum insulting other people.

 

[eggy]

Now now, children.

 

[Bracken]

aaah marc .. tbh .. if u descide to group u also need to know that u ultimately come up to the next stage of RvR whish means FGs will kill you .. or atleast we do .. you need to draw a line somewhere .. if its a soloer its a nono to kill for us .. that is if its not someone we really do dislike! .. if its a duo .. its killable .. simply coz they are grouped ..

we have drawn the line there .. coz what if a group comes with like 6 ppl and a few pets .. shouldent we attack them then? .. so there is the line atleast from our guildgroup.

If all that is the case then presumably we won't hear you whining anymore when your fights get run over by a zerg? After all, it's not fair fights you are after is it? Anything more than solo can be killed.

To quote yourself (almost) "if u descide to group u also need to know that u ultimately come up to the next stage of RvR whish means zergs will kill you".

I'm glad you now understand that once you group up all fights are fair game.

 

[Marc]

you're such a hero, acting like a bigboy on an internet forum insulting other people.

kiss my arse VF he called me retarded.

 

[Things]

its not their fault that you have to zerg/do keep rvr/add to make rps cause you're probably not skilled enough to join decent 8man guilds

what? lol, not everyone has the time to play in decent 8man guilds because it just takes too much time, i've got work, uni and a daugther, im not gonna spend 5 hours a night (normaly finishing at 2am or something), 4 days a week in a FG set up. Its got fuck all to do with skill, more the time to play

Svartmetall- agree with most of ur first post, but i cant be arsed to trail though the 18 other pages to put points across.

 

[Gamah]

I have no fucking idea what you just said. Maybe you should stick to what you do best, shouting "DONT FUCKING ADD, FAOD IRL" as soon as someone comes into clip range. Fcking nerd.

Is that all you say? fucking nerd while your trolling an internet forum about a role playing game? Bet your some short little prick with some authority issues.

 

[kivik]

I have no fucking idea what you just said. Maybe you should stick to what you do best, shouting "DONT FUCKING ADD, FAOD IRL" as soon as someone comes into clip range. Fcking nerd.

Would love to hear what you are screaming when St. Helens are getting owned. Fucking retard.

 

[Darzil]

Well, there goes the thread. Lock inc, I'm betting.

Darzil

 

[kivik]

Well, there goes the thread. Lock inc, I'm betting.

Darzil

I blame marc.

Discussion was pretty much over though. Great discussion I might add.

 

[Nosufer]

kiss my arse VF he called me retarded.

Marc, empty your in box please sir.

 

[Yejorah]

First introduced in Dark Age of Camelot, RvR is Mythic's unique take on Player vs. Player (PvP) combat. At its heart, RvR centers on group-based, goal-oriented PvP battles.

By mythic, on RvR. notice it doesnt say zerg-based. or large scale battles anywhere.

PS i am not jjuraa

 

[Phake]

If all that is the case then presumably we won't hear you whining anymore when your fights get run over by a zerg? After all, it's not fair fights you are after is it? Anything more than solo can be killed.

To quote yourself (almost) "if u descide to group u also need to know that u ultimately come up to the next stage of RvR whish means zergs will kill you".

I'm glad you now understand that once you group up all fights are fair game.

have never cared about zergs "adding" on our fights. .even though adding when it comes to zergs is the wrong word to use .. its the FGs that add on other FGs thats annoying .. but to determine what is and FG or not is hard .. therefor the logical line to draw on what our GG should engage or not is groups in general .. may it be a duo or FG ..

 

[Phake]

I have no fucking idea what you just said. Maybe you should stick to what you do best, shouting "DONT FUCKING ADD, FAOD IRL" as soon as someone comes into clip range. Fcking nerd.

whats so hard to understand ? .. you allways behaving like a retard on FH or me clarifying the fact that our GG is engaging everyone thats grouped .. thats means .. we dont kill soloers incase we really really dislike the person soloing? ..

and yes i am a nerd .... when it comes to guitars .. Ibanez Les Paul Lawsuits ftw!

marc ... PEACE not WAR ... :] .. remember that

 

[ebenezer]

By mythic, on RvR. notice it doesnt say zerg-based. or large scale battles anywhere.

PS i am not jjuraa

thats cause you cant be 45+ people in a group..that would be a bit difficult to design really. You can have 10 odd fgs running around and create a full scale battle. So ofc it sais its based on fgs..
But everyone that sais its not in their idea to include those fullscale battles are blind. Just look at NF and all the toys that it have brought. Its all for creating a nice full scale battle enviroment, that you after all can do whatever you like in. But the whole discussion about what mythic is really wasted from both camps as thats not that key to this whole discussion. They key is that people have to respect all playstyles, and thats not really happening. And everyone point to how the game is designed have nothing to do about that, cause in the end we ourselfs choose how to play it. So everyone work more on trying to accept that the game is what it is now, and get on with it or quit

over and out..

 

[Mey]

By mythic, on RvR. notice it doesnt say zerg-based. or large scale battles anywhere.

PS i am not jjuraa

They didn't specify what a group was though did they. Just because a "group" is 8 people doesn't mean they meant that a group in rvr was.

 

[Edlina]

what? lol, not everyone has the time to play in decent 8man guilds because it just takes too much time, i've got work, uni and a daugther, im not gonna spend 5 hours a night (normaly finishing at 2am or something), 4 days a week in a FG set up. Its got fuck all to do with skill, more the time to play

That has nothing to do with it and is the worst excuse ever. I bet you play more daoc than I do.

I log in somewhere between 6 and 16 hours a week, usually 2 or 3 evenings of somewhere between 3 and 4 hours of playing (19.30-23.00 cet in average), on a rare week 4 evenings of up towards 4 hours set as a usual max. It's got everything to do with skill, nothing with the time you play. Unless of course you can't even manage a schedule of playing 6 hours over a week - can't manage to play 2 days in a week, but if you play that little, it's hardly even worth it having an account open, if you ask me. I know for sure that most other "set" grps run similar hours and days during a full week. I'm sorry, but really, using the time argument isn't right these days at least - unless, like I said, you cannot even play ~6 hours a week, perhaps.

 

[ebenezer]

That has nothing to do with it and is the worst excuse ever. I bet you play more daoc than I do.

I log in somewhere between 6 and 16 hours a week, usually 2 or 3 evenings of somewhere between 3 and 4 hours of playing (19.30-23.00 cet in average), on a rare week 4 evenings of up towards 4 hours set as a usual max. It's got everything to do with skill, nothing with the time you play. Unless of course you can't even manage a schedule of playing 6 hours over a week - can't manage to play 2 days in a week, but if you play that little, it's hardly even worth it having an account open, if you ask me. I know for sure that most other "set" grps run similar hours and days during a full week. I'm sorry, but really, using the time argument isn't right these days at least - unless, like I said, you cannot even play ~6 hours a week, perhaps.

Ofc it have something to do with how much time you put into game. Lol why wouldnt it...its as with anything in life, the more you practice and have time for a hobby/intrest the better you get
Also time is an esential factor since you may not have time to do all you want in daoc...soending time in a set group means less time to do whatever else you wanna do in game. So unless you wanna be exlusively in a set rvr group you need more time to do the rest as well.
Thats how its working for me at least.

 

[Edlina]

Then it becomes a prioritization issue, if you're skilled enough but rather spend time pve'ing, crafting or whatever. It's not the issue that you don't have the time to play in a set group, it's the issue that you prioritize to do something else with the time you spend on daoc, therefore you cannot possibly (reasonably) whine at set grps being better at what they do than you are. The reason you're not in a set grp (which is what he said he didn't have time for) isn't because you don't have time for it, but because you choose not to by spending your daoc time elsewhere.

 

[ebenezer]

Then it becomes a prioritization issue, if you're skilled enough but rather spend time pve'ing, crafting or whatever. It's not the issue that you don't have the time to play in a set group, it's the issue that you prioritize to do something else with the time you spend on daoc, therefore you cannot possibly (reasonably) whine at set grps being better at what they do than you are. The reason you're not in a set grp (which is what he said he didn't have time for) isn't because you don't have time for it, but because you choose not to by spending your daoc time elsewhere.

yeh ofc its a case of how you put ur prioreties in game. But you still need time to play and get better...less time to play daoc...the worse you gonna do in something, its not brain surgery. Whatever you then choose to do when logging on is another thing. But first of all you gonna need to have time to play Some people learn faster( which i think ur getting at) and some dont..but if they have enough time to spend eventually they will aquire som skills in what they do. Im a crap carpenter for example and not spending any time in it cause im not intrested at all. But i find myself having to do more and more stuff in work and slowly i aquire skills in that Thats how getting skills work. If i was talented and had hands fo it i might have to spend less time...and so on.
over and out...

 

[auroria]

my 2 cents

on irc everyone is like yelling about the other realm always adding etc, anyway this is my experience

when i play mid i get zerged at dc, i get zerged at beno + (realm hunters grp at bled ofc )
when i play hib i get zerged at beno, i get zerged at bled

when you play dark age of camelot you have to be prepared for getting adds, i expect everyone to add, unless i have positive experiences with the person in not adding. I also see lots of high rr so called solopeople who add and zerg down low rr's all the time. After making a new ns ive experienced so much hypocricism its funny, just because everyone think your a icklelittle teamzerg guy, or because they think you will surely add cause of low rr. of course there is those that respect al fights, including the low rr ones, and these are imo the real soloers. Just look at theoden, gotmagi, eliten etc.

 

[Edlina]

yeh ofc its a case of how you put ur prioreties in game. But you still need time to play and get better...less time to play daoc...the worse you gonna do in something, its not brain surgery. Whatever you then choose to do when logging on is another thing. But first of all you gonna need to have time to play Some people learn faster( which i think ur getting at) and some dont..but if they have enough time to spend eventually they will aquire som skills in what they do. Im a crap carpenter for example and not spending any time in it cause im not intrested at all. But i find myself having to do more and more stuff in work and slowly i aquire skills in that Thats how getting skills work. If i was talented and had hands fo it i might have to spend less time...and so on.
over and out...

Well yea, obviously, I think a lot of the so called skill in daoc can come from other things than playing daoc though - just like in real life. You can get mouse skills i.e. targetting skills, from many other games, can get a strategy aspect, overview practice (positioning movement) etc from a lot of other games, and even rl sports can help you on the communication side and so on. Other than that it's quite obvious that spending time practicing skill by fg rvr, for example, will make you more skilled.

But all together I'm just pointing out that it's wrong to say that it's due to time-based reasons that you cannot play in a set grp, because it honestly does not take a lot of time. That you prefer spending your time on other stuff is a different matter altogether. Therefore my point before was that it shouldn't be a surprise that set grps, and ppl who spend the majority of their daoc time in those are more skilled at playing as one such (fg most likely), and that unless you prioritize in another way, or do not even spend 6 hours a week on daoc, your playtime is not the problem when it comes to not being part of a set grp, and thus not being able to compete with those. - it is not because you don't have the time that you're not in a set grp.

 

[ebenezer]

Well yea, obviously, I think a lot of the so called skill in daoc can come from other things than playing daoc though - just like in real life. You can get mouse skills i.e. targetting skills, from many other games, can get a strategy aspect, overview practice (positioning movement) etc from a lot of other games, and even rl sports can help you on the communication side and so on. Other than that it's quite obvious that spending time practicing skill by fg rvr, for example, will make you more skilled.

But all together I'm just pointing out that it's wrong to say that it's due to time-based reasons that you cannot play in a set grp, because it honestly does not take a lot of time. That you prefer spending your time on other stuff is a different matter altogether. Therefore my point before was that it shouldn't be a surprise that set grps, and ppl who spend the majority of their daoc time in those are more skilled at playing as one such (fg most likely), and that unless you prioritize in another way, or do not even spend 6 hours a week on daoc, your playtime is not the problem when it comes to not being part of a set grp, and thus not being able to compete with those. - it is not because you don't have the time that you're not in a set grp.

But as you just stated some poeple have a nack for it and some dont to same etxtent. So doesnt the players that dont have the same nack for it spend some more time to get around to it then? If a "skilled" player that you say have a talent or aquired skills from another game start playing a set group maybe he doesnt need as much time to adjust and learn, but a casual player with no prior pc skills might have to spend a lot of time, just quite obvious to me...
Dont you agree?