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Ekydus
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When are you going to moan about Slam on Scouts being overpowered? 
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azshara2
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NERF SCOUTS!!!!111
THEY ALMOST HIT ME!!1111
THEY ALMOST HIT ME!!1111
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BidAccount
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Hehe
I think you'll see mids moan and run nerf campaigns against any alb class that may possibly inflict any harm against them in any form.
After all, midgard shouldn't lose should they? That just wouldn't be fair!
I think you'll see mids moan and run nerf campaigns against any alb class that may possibly inflict any harm against them in any form.
After all, midgard shouldn't lose should they? That just wouldn't be fair!
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alme
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when theres 1 mil scouts out there wtfpwning.
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-RG-Jaond
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Only overpowerd stealther class is infils imo all other are good, maybe remove stealth from mincers or give it to skalds and bards to make the stealth war more balanced
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Ekydus
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They have stealth to balance out your instas, K?
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-RG-Jaond
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And this coming from an alb
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-RG-Jaond
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And mincer dont have instas, k?
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Ekydus
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Insta Mezz > Insta DD
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Puppetmistress
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LOL.
A minstrel is a ROGUE class. A bard is a NATURALIST class. A skald is a VIKING class.
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-RG-Jaond
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Cant see why a class with speed/mess/stun/dd/chain having stealth.
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bob007
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You realy believe a ressing, healing, buffing, stealthed class would balance the stealth wars ?
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Rollie
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i thought bolt range mezz+mez reduction did that
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-RG-Jaond
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What im saying is that they maybe shouldnt be a ROGUE class, but that is not a big big prob really so nm.
Would just be nice with a stealth class with speed to duo with
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-RG-Jaond
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What you going for first when fighting a hib group? The bard so ofc we would do that to and a bard is way easir to kill then a mincer with chain and sos or a skald with chain.
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But he's stealthed, He wouldn't be carring a lute, He'd have his weapons rdy. You'd pop him, He'd insta mez you all, Then just move back. Cure heal himself, Turn on end regen and watch as his m8's bare down on you and kill you off 1 by 1. Tho you could purge and chase him down, But how long will your end last against a stealthed class with end regen.
Infact forget everything i typed, Give bards and skalds stealth. I'll go finish mine to 50, They sound uber
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uglymug
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don't nerf other archers ... fix hunters!Originally posted by Ekydus
When are you going to moan about Slam on Scouts being overpowered?
oh and remove stealth from mincers ... why do they have that again?
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Which mid stealther has instas??
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-RG-Jaond
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Originally posted by bob007
But he's stealthed, He wouldn't be carring a lute, He'd have his weapons rdy. You'd pop him, He'd insta mez you all, Then just move back. Cure heal himself, Turn on end regen and watch as his m8's bare down on you and kill you off 1 by 1. Tho you could purge and chase him down, But how long will your end last against a stealthed class with end regen.
Infact forget everything i typed, Give bards and skalds stealth. I'll go finish mine to 50, They sound uber
Thats what happend today, lets say a 2v2 fight sb+sb vs infil+mincer. Mincer pop stealth and mess both without purge up i can just stand there and see my friend getting killed.
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bob007
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Hunter instant pet.
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-RG-Jaond
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Hunter instant pet. > mincer mess/dd/stun
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bob007
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Agreed for the most part. But a quick fix like "give skalds and bards stealth" would create a bigger inbalance then there is now. I play a minstrel. Give me a line that can replace stealth and has a use and i'd gladly give up stealth. But bards with stealth would just make problems worse for mid. No demezz on a stealther
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Well - they did learned from the "best" (best whiners that is).
Just to take the recent ones, we seen a massive amount of whines against midgard classes from albion players because their massive zergs might have lost a fight or two, so is it wierd that some midgard-players returns the favour.
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A mincer have chain, and they have a powerbar with "spells" - thus he is more a hybrid then a rogue.
(equvivalent reasoning to the savages being hybrid becuase they have self buffs
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old.krane
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Please man...stop pestering the boards with your utter BS...
giving stealth to bards...k
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-RG-Jaond
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Remove stealth from mincers...k
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Gordonax
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Problem with giving skalds stealth would be it would make them way overpowered in open field soloing.
As I've said before, you're looking for a nerf on mincers based on how they perform in one tiny aspect of RvR, which most mincers take no part in.
A while ago, I respecced from 50/30/30 to 50 instr 43 slash, because I wanted to see how it differed. I went back to 50/30/30 not because it wasn't a viable spec (it's great to be able to whack people like that!) but because I found not being able to climb keep walls boring.
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Originally posted by Rollie
i thought bolt range mezz+mez reduction did that
He's talking specifically about skald insta-mezz.
Don't get me wrong, I think skalds need a little loving. But the last thing they need is stealth.
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Gordonax
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Re: Re: So...
Because they're a rogue class? Because they're on a different damage table to skalds and hence hit like a wet lettuce? Because their mezz is castable, not insta? Because otherwise they'd be as boring to play as skalds?
And, once again, the facts: how many mincers were in the top 10 rps earners last week? None. How many in the top 20? None. You have to go down to number 33 to find the first minstrel. In the all-time list there's one - Alpha - in the top 30.
If minstrels are so uber they need a nerf, where are all the high rp mincers? So - other than "I got wtfpwnd by a mincer/infi duo once" - where's your evidence that mincers need a nerf? Give me some facts and figures, instead of just your half-baked opinions, and perhaps I'll respect what you're saying.
Because they're a rogue class? Because they're on a different damage table to skalds and hence hit like a wet lettuce? Because their mezz is castable, not insta? Because otherwise they'd be as boring to play as skalds?
And, once again, the facts: how many mincers were in the top 10 rps earners last week? None. How many in the top 20? None. You have to go down to number 33 to find the first minstrel. In the all-time list there's one - Alpha - in the top 30.
If minstrels are so uber they need a nerf, where are all the high rp mincers? So - other than "I got wtfpwnd by a mincer/infi duo once" - where's your evidence that mincers need a nerf? Give me some facts and figures, instead of just your half-baked opinions, and perhaps I'll respect what you're saying.
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Originally posted by Xandax
A mincer have chain, and they have a powerbar with "spells" - thus he is more a hybrid then a rogue.
(equvivalent reasoning to the savages being hybrid becuase they have self buffs
Rogue = base-class
Viking = base-class
Stalker = base-class
Seer = base-class
Hybrid = a term we gave to certain classes who can do 2 things (mostly cast spells and melee). THIS IS NOT A BASE-CLASS (!!!!)
A hunter, ranger, nightshade also have spells. Like the minstrel. As you see there are 3 REAL stealthers without mana-bar: Infiltrator, Shadowblade and Scout.
So all realms have a stealther with manabar. Midgard: Hunter. Hibernia: Ranger/Nightshade. Albion: Minstrel.
Yes, Albion has 3 stealthers. Albion also has the most classes.