So when do u think the savage nerf will come and in wat way do u think itll be

[Deletium]

Originally posted by Djin
its not the savage that ruin the game! its the infils zergs that does.

first thing is they have df, and that is already overpowered.! but not enough with that! they zerg in 2fgs 90% of the time. so when SB's got nerfed ppl rolled fotm infil.

they have 2 benefits now. overpowered. and zerging too damn much! plz!

FFS.. u got PAIN.. dont tell ppl that its only albs that encourage zergin..

They like all other get tired of zergs.. and a LOT of albs dont want to zerg.. its just ignorant to say that all infils zerg and that its only albs that zerg....

childish imo..

 

[Ekydus]

Because I can't even fucking hit Savages, comprendé?

I do not have this problem with any other class.

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Ekydus
Because I can't even fucking hit Savages, comprendé?

I do not have this problem with any other class.

exaggeration doesnt help when trying to put a point across.

If i could solo a rr4 savage down with my scout once in melee and once with a bow, then i know you "can" hit a savage.

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by oblivion_6
how do u ignore posts?

is there a setting?

the whines on boards r gettin me down form a few pees would be nice to remove em

Go to the characters profile - there's a little link at the bottom where you can put that character on your ignore link.

You then get the option to view ignored peoples posts if you wish, but won't see them by default. Lovely feature

 

[lorric]

Originally posted by Deletium
FFS.. u got PAIN.. dont tell ppl that its only albs that encourage zergin..

They like all other get tired of zergs.. and a LOT of albs dont want to zerg.. its just ignorant to say that all infils zerg and that its only albs that zerg....

childish imo..

Ive not seen pain with more than 3-4 people on in days most of the time i see grimster on his own, just keep using the same excuse for albs huge stealth zergs.

 

[AbPoon]

Originally posted by Ekydus
Because I can't even fucking hit Savages, comprendé?

I do not have this problem with any other class.

Pallys hardly ever hit me in rvr either.

Whats your point?

 

[glorien_]

good to see a savage whine could become an infil whine...but thats mids for you.

Keep crying makes you look good

 

[Jergiot]

Originally posted by Ekydus
Doubt it will happen. You have to be a fucking gimp to moan about DF in the first place.

thats a joke right? infils are clearly overpowered comparing them to other realms assasins.

 

[Garnet]

dont give a shit tbh, nerf them to hell

 

[samildanachh]

keep on topic
oh and btw any reaver with a large shield is gimped.

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Ekydus
DF gets nerfed = Infils roll slash.

Infils roll slash and see how fun it is with str/con debuff

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by AbPoon
Pallys hardly ever hit me in rvr either.

Whats your point?

His point is that he is getting bored guarding supportclasses, and he wanna kill tanks with his pally, but fail to do so.

 

[Antedeluvian]

Originally posted by herjulf
Personally i doubt savages wil lbe nerfed any further savage dps have been reduced quad damage output have been put into line.
They are on skald HP and wear leather, gain evade 3, does not however gain offensive spells. only self buffs. no good "anytime style". the three most used is used from behind and from side of target and on evade. and in 2-h savage case on parry.

Valewalker get to deal quite massive amount of damage has self 250 af buff/dmgshield etc etc, can wield a 2-h at impressive speeds. I play one on prydwen now (/lvl30) and digs it bigtime.
has anytime styles

reaver has nasty dmg, styles gets to wear chain, insta DoT shout have acces to large shields, which makes him a overpowered warrior.
has acces to loads of anytime styles.

I know certain other classes who should phear a nerf more.
Infiltrator and enchanter to mention two.

Healer a class who is made to stun/mezz/heal best stun at lvl50 is 11sec, infiltrators has acces to a first in chain on evade 9sec stun style.
9sec is enuff to take down just about anything.
And dont give me no shit about purge, purge is an active RA chances are +50% it has been used up a already.

Imo take down stun time to 5-6sec and make DF 2nd in a chain of styles. as other assasains have to live with.

Savage imo got buggfixed i do not expect any more "nerfs" in the near future.

LOOOL!!, ok, let's begin:

2H savages use anytimes..always, H2H savages use anytimes too, but they even have GREAT positionals...and they triple/quad whitout the need of land any chain or pos style (always wonder why hell they dont need any requisite to land 3-4 hits in a round)

They are in skald HP table....the HIBRYD table i must add, and if they dont specc in H2H they have tank WS btw. Only evade 3? no shit, ADVANCED evade3+evade buff (advanced evade + evade buff yeah, great combo, right?). Only self buffs?, fucking great self buffs (self buffs and non-hibryds, ofc..), but noone like the bot buffs, so they can be buffboteds whitout lose any of their buffs, and the buffs are instants, and the cost is fucking cheap, hell, even their haste buffs is stackable whit healer's one.

Valewalkers have 250 af buff....and wear cloth, u monkey, so their base af set is 51 (lvl 51) instead 102, they can deal a great amount of damage ONLY after reaccionaries or positionals (really reactionaries or positionals CHAINS like all reaver styles but leviatan btw, and remember rear arc was nerfed), and about valewalker anytimes... you are joking, righ?. And about speed using 2H.... nothing equal to a savage whit stackable haste buffs.

Reavers, well, nasty dmg....only from rear or after a 4 hits chain, instadot shout....great against assasins, but the worst interrupt shout in game, cause give a free CC inmunitie, access to large shields... so what? i think no reaver use really large shield, we are not deffensive tanks, and about warriors....let me see, more WS than another tank in game, can use 1H-2H weapons and dont lose any deffence... they dont look like an underpowered class imho, in fact the difference in dmg btw slam-levi-levi, and slam-ragn-ragn is really impressive yeah (no). Both reavers and warriors are fine, maybe warriors need some variety, only that. AND THE FUNNIEST PART: reavers have loads of anytime styles..... now i need ask you, what are u smoking?, and, could u pass some plz?, mayb the slash reavers have loads of anytime.... such idiots, make an arms or pally if u want a slash user, not a reaver, and in flex line the only viable anytime is the taunt style, loads, yeah.

Healers stun is ranged and aoe, and can use an instant version btw, infils use a lvl50 style which stun u after evade, and can be evaded too btw.

Your point is make a lvl50 style 5-6 secs and chain, right?, and fuck the mercenaries or scouts specced 50 thrust, right?, ok, fine, but then what would u give to the style?, remember it is a lvl50 style, moron, it must be great, it must change a fight when landed, and u want it changed to a 5-6 secs stun after chain, sure....and high endurance low dmg too, ofc.

Child, crack is BAD, remember, and yes, EXPECT nerfs in savage class, not even Mythic are sooooo stupids.

 

[AbPoon]

Originally posted by Antedeluvian
LOOOL!!, ok, let's begin:

2H savages use anytimes..always, H2H savages use anytimes too, but they even have GREAT positionals...)

They are in skald HP table....the HIBRYD table i must add, and if they dont specc in H2H they have tank WS btw. Only evade 3? no shit, ADVANCED evade3+evade buff (advanced evade + evade buff yeah, great combo, right?).

Wrong wrong wrong wrong

Savages have evade 4

Guardsxman spams anytimes for 2h yes but the good ones dont

H2h savages will back up with an anytime normally but most use rear and side v often.

Learn about the class before you whine about the class

 

[Ekydus]

Learn why we whine before you complain about the whine.

 

[Reverant Mezz]

haha Ekydus teh new clown of BW

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Antedeluvian
LOOOL!!, ok, let's begin:

2H savages use anytimes..always, H2H savages use anytimes too, but they even have GREAT positionals...and they triple/quad whitout the need of land any chain or pos style (always wonder why hell they dont need any requisite to land 3-4 hits in a round)

They are in skald HP table....the HIBRYD table i must add, and if they dont specc in H2H they have tank WS btw. Only evade 3? no shit, ADVANCED evade3+evade buff (advanced evade + evade buff yeah, great combo, right?). Only self buffs?, fucking great self buffs (self buffs and non-hibryds, ofc..), but noone like the bot buffs, so they can be buffboteds whitout lose any of their buffs, and the buffs are instants, and the cost is fucking cheap, hell, even their haste buffs is stackable whit healer's one.

Valewalkers have 250 af buff....and wear cloth, u monkey, so their base af set is 51 (lvl 51) instead 102, they can deal a great amount of damage ONLY after reaccionaries or positionals (really reactionaries or positionals CHAINS like all reaver styles but leviatan btw, and remember rear arc was nerfed), and about valewalker anytimes... you are joking, righ?. And about speed using 2H.... nothing equal to a savage whit stackable haste buffs.

Reavers, well, nasty dmg....only from rear or after a 4 hits chain, instadot shout....great against assasins, but the worst interrupt shout in game, cause give a free CC inmunitie, access to large shields... so what? i think no reaver use really large shield, we are not deffensive tanks, and about warriors....let me see, more WS than another tank in game, can use 1H-2H weapons and dont lose any deffence... they dont look like an underpowered class imho, in fact the difference in dmg btw slam-levi-levi, and slam-ragn-ragn is really impressive yeah (no). Both reavers and warriors are fine, maybe warriors need some variety, only that. AND THE FUNNIEST PART: reavers have loads of anytime styles..... now i need ask you, what are u smoking?, and, could u pass some plz?, mayb the slash reavers have loads of anytime.... such idiots, make an arms or pally if u want a slash user, not a reaver, and in flex line the only viable anytime is the taunt style, loads, yeah.

Healers stun is ranged and aoe, and can use an instant version btw, infils use a lvl50 style which stun u after evade, and can be evaded too btw.

Your point is make a lvl50 style 5-6 secs and chain, right?, and fuck the mercenaries or scouts specced 50 thrust, right?, ok, fine, but then what would u give to the style?, remember it is a lvl50 style, moron, it must be great, it must change a fight when landed, and u want it changed to a 5-6 secs stun after chain, sure....and high endurance low dmg too, ofc.

Child, crack is BAD, remember, and yes, EXPECT nerfs in savage class, not even Mythic are sooooo stupids.

remove evade based stuns from all assasins, problem solved.

 

[Antedeluvian]

Originally posted by Djin


imo, give DF second style in a evade chain and giv 6sec stun (same as PA)

Another moron, is a lvl50 style! do you know it?, so must be a great style, u want it changed?, well, then reduce the stun time but improve A LOT the dmg, fine for u?

What about this: 7 secs (all stuns lvl44+ are at least 7 secs), end low, dmg high, bonus to hit high, bonus to deff med., after evade still. Easy, reduce a bit the stun time and improve the dmg.

 

[lorric]

Originally posted by Ekydus
Learn why we whine before you complain about the whine.

Learn why we whine before you complain about the whine.

 

[Djin]

could agree to that yes. np with 7 sec stun, since it is 50 style. but if mids had a 50 stun style, ofc they would spec 50 too! if it was that great!

but change it to second evade chain! not first. too easy to land

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Antedeluvian
Another moron, is a lvl50 style! do you know it?, so must be a great style, u want it changed?, well, then reduce the stun time but improve A LOT the dmg, fine for u?

What about this: 7 secs (all stuns lvl44+ are at least 7 secs), end low, dmg high, bonus to hit high, bonus to deff med., after evade still. Easy, reduce a bit the stun time and improve the dmg.

Lv. Name: Fat. Dam. Atk. Def. Opening Requirement Special

50 Ragnarok M M M -L From Behind Target Target is Slowed

50 Dragonfang L M H -L After You Evade Target is Stunned

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by Antedeluvian
LOOOL!!, ok, let's begin:

2H savages use anytimes..always, H2H savages use anytimes too, but they even have GREAT positionals...and they triple/quad whitout the need of land any chain or pos style (always wonder why hell they dont need any requisite to land 3-4 hits in a round)

<snip>

Your point is make a lvl50 style 5-6 secs and chain, right?, and fuck the mercenaries or scouts specced 50 thrust, right?, ok, fine, but then what would u give to the style?, remember it is a lvl50 style, moron, it must be great, it must change a fight when landed, and u want it changed to a 5-6 secs stun after chain, sure....and high endurance low dmg too, ofc.

Child, crack is BAD, remember, and yes, EXPECT nerfs in savage class, not even Mythic are sooooo stupids.

Ok, let's begin ripping this one apart:

"2H savages use anytimes..always, H2H savages use anytimes too, but they even have GREAT positionals..."

I don't even have an anytime on my quickbar on my H2h savage - I -only- use it when duelling an opponent.

"Your point is make a lvl50 style 5-6 secs and chain, right?, and fuck the mercenaries or scouts specced 50 thrust, right?, ok, fine, but then what would u give to the style?, remember it is a lvl50 style, moron, it must be great, it must change a fight when landed, and u want it changed to a 5-6 secs stun after chain, sure....and high endurance low dmg too, ofc."

Keep Dragonfang just as it is - or make it second in chain - I don't mind. But lower infil specpoints to 2.2 pts like the other 2 assassins if you keep it as it is. ( wouldn't screw mercs or scouts at all ).

"Child, crack is BAD, remember, and yes, EXPECT nerfs in savage class, not even Mythic are sooooo stupids. "

Changes are already being made - could you stop crying now?

 

[Antedeluvian]

Originally posted by AbPoon
Wrong wrong wrong wrong

Savages have evade 4

Guardsxman spams anytimes for 2h yes but the good ones dont

H2h savages will back up with an anytime normally but most use rear and side v often.

Learn about the class before you whine about the class

a)So your point is that savages are EVEN more overpowered that i thought, and btw the evade 3 thing was said by your comrade.

b)There are not good ones in savage class, for deffinition a FOTM is an advantaje player good for nothing, and they all, yes you too, spam anytimes whit 2H.

c)All pple back-up positionals-reacctionaries whit anytimes, but the fact is that savages have that anytimes, and good ones i must say, where is the non-anytimes in savages thing?

At end the only thing i want know about the savages is when the morons will be deleted or nerfed until oblivion, then you'll must chose btw an equilibrated class, another possible FOTM or another game. The first chose would be the best but being u a jump-to-the-fotm i bet u will chose one of the other two.

 

[Agreac]

Originally posted by Whisperess

Keep Dragonfang just as it is - or make it second in chain - I don't mind. But lower infil specpoints to 2.2 pts like the other 2 assassins if you keep it as it is. ( wouldn't screw mercs or scouts at all ).

Let mercs and scouts have it just as it is at the moment, change it somehow for infils. The style itself isn't overpowered, but when a class that can easily get 50% evade rate and has 2.5 spec points for practically free 50 weapon spec has access to it, that is overpowered.

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Antedeluvian
At end the only thing i want know about the savages is when the morons will be deleted or nerfed until oblivion,

another genius after class balance

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by Agreac
Let mercs and scouts have it just as it is at the moment, change it somehow for infils. The style itself isn't overpowered, but when a class that can easily get 50% evade rate and has 2.5 spec points for practically free 50 weapon spec has access to it, that is overpowered.

Aye, then lower infils spec points per level to 2.2 pts.

<gasp>

The horror of actually having to give something up for 50 weaponspec?

 

[-yoda-]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Afraid that your little fotmfiltraiter gonna get nerfed?

I got an idea lets duel and i get 9sec free hiting on you, sounds fair?

why whine about df now? n not 12+ months ago ? do you whine when a merc or scout df's you? no you didnt .. just because your wtfpwnFOTMLAspamonestlye4tehwin sb got its dmge changed to be on same par as other assasins now you DO whinge.

p.s get purge cos purge > df

 

[Tasans]

I can see the tears flooding fs already.

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by -yoda-
p.s get purge cos purge > df

get bof cos bof > savages

 

[schinkaar]

Dont think poon is that much of uber fotm player, since he was playing more alb than mid during the worst zerk gank grps. And the fact that he does play his zerk and havent rerolled to a savage kinda gives a hint that he isnt jumping the bandwagon.
Tbh you shouldnt care about savages being nerfed, you will loose when they are anyway. Focus more on improving and maybe you might win when they get nerfed atleast.