So when do u think the savage nerf will come and in wat way do u think itll be

[samildanachh]

the savage is totally over powered far more than the inf 9s stun df.
I mean the savage totally un balances rvr, the inf 9s stun is a minor thing but when u meet a mid fg with 3 savages in the odds are vastly in favour of the mids, i mean look at jh, the fotm mid set up. They are skilled players but will consistenly win over equally skilled players from other realms for no other reason that they are totally overpowered. There is no way that u shuld be able to do 700dmg+ on chain wearers every 1.5s.
yes it does hapen, ive had it happen to me and that was only with a triple not a quad hit.

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Ekydus
Well that depends on whether or not you are being followed by Pain.

So where can i find you? "solo" at amg with the rest om the fotm infils?

 

[horil]

Originally posted by samildanachh
the savage is totally over powered far more than the inf 9s stun df.
I mean the savage totally un balances rvr, the inf 9s stun is a minor thing but when u meet a mid fg with 3 savages in the odds are vastly in favour of the mids, i mean look at jh, the fotm mid set up. They are skilled players but will consistenly win over equally skilled players from other realms for no other reason that they are totally overpowered. There is no way that u shuld be able to do 700dmg+ on chain wearers every 1.5s.
yes it does hapen, ive had it happen to me and that was only with a triple not a quad hit.

Yes, there would be point on balancing them, at same they should give thane some real love, not increasing damage on ae spell. Rather put them all in the line than nerfing some to hell.

 

[samildanachh]

i spend alot of my time soloing in odins.
and tbh all realms stealth zerg, Mids stealth zerg emain, hibs stealth zerg odins and Albs tend to stealth zerg both.
the few times i go emain i usually get mangled by sb's at amg.
Oh i usually find the PAIN retards camping their own TK.

 

[horil]

Originally posted by samildanachh
i spend alot of my time soloing in odins.
and tbh all realms stealth zerg, Mids stealth zerg emain, hibs stealth zerg odins and Albs tend to stealth zerg both.
the few times i go emain i usually get mangled by sb's at amg.
Oh i usually find the PAIN retards camping their own TK.

Heh, reason for this?

Solo sb can't usually beat rr5+ reaver 1on1? ^^

it's the same on the infils, go to amg in emain, get zerged by infils

go to amg at odins get zerged by low rr hib stealthers

 

[AbPoon]

Not being funny but how much skill do you need to backup a style with dragonfang?

 

[samildanachh]

not much can beat a rr5+ reaver 1v1. assuming both have equal buffs.

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by samildanachh
There is no way that u shuld be able to do 700dmg+ on chain wearers every 1.5s.
yes it does hapen, ive had it happen to me and that was only with a triple not a quad hit.

most savages are thrust spec ive noticed (cleric chain weak to it), and i presume you took a quad hit there(which are fixed in 1.65) even if it was a triple i presume it was a thrust savage.

You will see that once the extreme quad rates are fixed damage output by savages will drop quite considerably, that is the main problem with savages atm is the crazy quad rate, its totally out of hand and thats why so many people get annoyed as they see 3 savages hit them each with a quad hit and they die.

 

[Ekydus]

RR5 SB can fight any class on equal terms just aslong as the player knows what they are doing. (RAs help too)

 

[Ekydus]

Originally posted by Rollie
most savages are thrust spec ive noticed (cleric chain weak to it), and i presume you took a quad hit there(which are fixed in 1.65).

You will see that once the extreme quad rates are fixed damage output by savages will drop quite considerably, that is the main problem with savages atm is the crazy quad rate, its totally out of hand and thats why so many people get annoyed as they see 3 savages hit them each with a quad hit and they die.

I've found most that aren't H2H are either Slash or Crush spec.

Crush slaughters plate.
Slash has the nice style at 50.

 

[lorric]

Originally posted by Ekydus
RR5 SB can fight any class on equal terms just aslong as the player knows what they are doing. (RAs help too)

and you know this how? attack a solo reaver and u deserve to die.

 

[samildanachh]

tbh ns are king of the assasins atm, well atleast at high rr.
and ye sb's are bottom of the stealther food chain atm but its all swings and round abouts.
if u nerf DF to 6s the inf is gonna be shit.

 

[Ekydus]

Originally posted by lorric
and you know this how?

OK OK I lied. SBs can't kill anything. Ever.

 

[Ekydus]

Originally posted by lorric
and you know this how? attack a solo reaver and u deserve to die.

Can't believe you're afraid of Samaldanach TBH... he's a gimp.

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Ekydus
I've found most that aren't H2H are either Slash or Crush spec.

hmm i think you need toget a clue before you post

if they dont spec h2h the only other option is crush or slash lol

its like saying if infs dont spec thrust they are mainly slash.

 

[lorric]

Originally posted by Ekydus
OK OK I lied. SBs can't kill anything. Ever.

didnt say we dont stand a good chance solo i just like the fact that u dont have a clue.

 

[Ekydus]

Already got one. Not gonna re-post what I said though.

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Ekydus
I've found most that aren't H2H are either Slash or Crush spec.

Crush slaughters plate.
Slash has the nice style at 50.

You do know, that if they do not spec h2h, thier only other options are crush and slash right?

And no, they do not spec crush to slaughter plate. Speccing to defeate tanks, and not support would be a little silly.

 

[samildanachh]

nerf the post count.

 

[Ekydus]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos



You do know, that if they do not spec h2h, thier only other options are crush and slash right?

And no, they do not spec crush to slaughter plate. Speccing to defeate tanks, and not support would be a little silly.

Given the amount of "ME KING. ME KILL. HAHAHAHA." Savages, after seeing the damage a Crush specced Savage, I'd say many would go that way.

 

[BidAccount]

I imagine they'll reduce advanced evade, or make it normal evade.
I can also see them becomming 'hybrids' for RA purposes.

I'd like to see a reduction in damage output by significantly reducing triple/quad hit chances - something like a 65/25/9/1 model.

 

[Djin]

its true that Mid Stealthers zerg, but they usually dont zerg more than 4. and even if they have a zerg of 4 or even 8 it CANT compare to the Alb stealthers zerging. they are allways 8+ usually they move as 1.5-2fg's! and their stealthers also have mez, stun and speed. its not balanced imo.

Hibs zerg odins true.. at groups of 5-8 or 1.5 group. Mids zerg Odins with 4 and Emain with usually 4 (maybe Pain have more, i dont know. never see em around anymore) Albs zerg everywhere with 2fg!

stop it or u will loose your opponents. no fun meeting 2fgs every run and not being able to kill more than maybe 1 or 2

 

[Ekydus]

Originally posted by Djin
stop it or u will loose your opponents. no fun meeting 2fgs every run and not being able to kill more than maybe 1 or 2

OMG you're learning.

 

[lorric]

Originally posted by Ekydus
OMG you're learning.

wtf are u on about its not mids that have had fg of stealthers camping mmg last few nights running, and this is after midnight.

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
I imagine they'll reduce advanced evade, or make it normal evade.
I can also see them becomming 'hybrids' for RA purposes.

I'd like to see a reduction in damage output by significantly reducing triple/quad hit chances - something like a 65/25/9/1 model.

yay! balancing huh? fixing? then again, I wouldn't expect anything better from you.

 

[parzi]

fyi mythic already stated that savages will not become hybrids (and as someone said "thanes with no ranged spells").

its the savagery line thats uber, go look on vn savage board "how dps buff works" for example.

btw phear my new fotm2k4 savage spec i will respec to soon: 50+11+rr sword 30+11+rr hth 30 savagery
can switch between 2h sword and tg sword/claw then
will it be uber ? will it be gimped ? i dont care it looks cool

 

[herjulf]

Originally posted by Ekydus
Doubt it will happen. You have to be a fucking gimp to moan about DF in the first place.

LAF u have to ge f00kin kiddin me

 

[Ekydus]

Originally posted by Whisperess
yay! balancing huh? fixing? then again, I wouldn't expect anything better from you.

The way you talk you act like you know everyone personally. Yet again, If I asked for evidence you'd merely make up some fake proof, of which the probability of that it had actually happened to be around 90%

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
I imagine they'll reduce advanced evade, or make it normal evade.
I can also see them becomming 'hybrids' for RA purposes.

I'd like to see a reduction in damage output by significantly reducing triple/quad hit chances - something like a 65/25/9/1 model.

ok say they go with this lets look at what this class would have to offer a group

Tank ra's - so zerk/warriors would be in front when lfg

no advanced evade - so they have no tank ra's, wear studded armor and have less defence

less quads/triples wouldnt be so much of a problem as thats my main gripe with them

So here you have a class with weak armor to slash(common specline), no advanced evade, no tank ra's, no group abilitys, no range abilitys, no defence.

 

[envenom]

Ekydus u suck fuck off