So when do u think the savage nerf will come and in wat way do u think itll be

[AbPoon]

Originally posted by Antedeluvian
a)So your point is that savages are EVEN more overpowered that i thought, and btw the evade 3 thing was said by your comrade.

b)There are not good ones in savage class, for deffinition a FOTM is an advantaje player good for nothing, and they all, yes you too, spam anytimes whit 2H.

c)All pple back-up positionals-reacctionaries whit anytimes, but the fact is that savages have that anytimes, and good ones i must say, where is the non-anytimes in savages thing?

At end the only thing i want know about the savages is when the morons will be deleted or nerfed until oblivion, then you'll must chose btw an equilibrated class, another possible FOTM or another game. The first chose would be the best but being u a jump-to-the-fotm i bet u will chose one of the other two.

I dont spam anytimes with 2h when i do use it, my Rag damage is much better then my Rift damage and as i can back up styles theres no need to spam anytimes is there? If your targets changing direction and facing alot youll max your damage by backing your positional up with an anytime so i dont see how that is bad play

Also why would i roll a FOTM class in another game i went to?

I played a pally on the US servers i started on and rolled a zerker on the euro servers before the style growth rates were changed, i played through when Zerkers were over powered and now i'm the highest earner now their nerfed so i dont really see what your getting at.

And also you calling people stupid just because they rolled a Savage is akin to me calling you stupid for being spainish

 

[Chuffy]

Poon always lactates when he gets excited.

 

[kin]

Savage = meant to be light tank who kills enemy support, think most agree on that.

First problem is its tankalot these days.

Second problem with savages is they do massive damage, have endless end to do style and run down oppontents, an insta interrupt spell and because of access to det they cannot be CC.

Most offending in my eyes is self end combined with det, which makes sure no support can escape and they cannot be cc. Nothing can stop them until they are dead, and nothing can escape.

Try play an alb support class and you will understand. Atm we
really has little chance unless mincer is unmezzed and has sos up,
and it can hardly be called fair that albs supporters only chance
to survive 10 sec of battle is a ra on a 30 min timer. Trust me
savages has no problems even when bof is running. bof = good
when many attack many, not when 3 savages is attacking 1.

 

[old.Emma]

Originally posted by Ekydus
Doubt it will happen. You have to be a fucking gimp to moan about DF in the first place.

CBA to read the whole thread.

but rofl at that comment.

After playing an SB since release and rolling an infil. DF is the biggest I Win button in the game.

Ask Cowhunter ;p

Killed him thanks to DF even though i had 2-3 SB`s beating on me last night.

PS Thanks Aussie for that single shot with the bow btw ;p

 

[Cawr]

After LA nerf the whine was bound to move some where...

Glad to see each realm has an over powered class tbh .

On teh subject of Savages... Personally I just think Mythic made a royal fook up when they brain stormed ideas for new classes, I mean Mid already had a high damage light tank what made them think they needed another?

The mind boggles. Oo

Edit : Went over board with the "tbh" thingy.

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by old.Emma
CBA to read the whole thread.

but rofl at that comment.

After playing an SB since release and rolling an infil. DF is the biggest I Win button in the game.

Ask Cowhunter ;p

Killed him thanks to DF even though i had 2-3 SB`s beating on me last night.

PS Thanks Aussie for that single shot with the bow btw ;p

nice to see someone who's played both sides that doesn't turn to denial.

 

[kin]

Originally posted by Whisperess
nice to see someone who's played both sides that doesn't turn to denial.

I dont mind admit df is overpowered after sb nerf, but how many mids will admit that their newly created savage is overpowered ?

 

[sethnaket]

Originally posted by Antedeluvian
a)c)All pple back-up positionals-reacctionaries whit anytimes, but the fact is that savages have that anytimes, and good ones i must say, where is the non-anytimes in savages thing?

i back up side style with back style most of the time tbh.. do i suck then?

 

[Antedeluvian]

Originally posted by old.Emma
CBA to read the whole thread.

but rofl at that comment.

After playing an SB since release and rolling an infil. DF is the biggest I Win button in the game.

Ask Cowhunter ;p

Killed him thanks to DF even though i had 2-3 SB`s beating on me last night.

PS Thanks Aussie for that single shot with the bow btw ;p

I killed once 3 SBs and a Succubus at time, they even landed 1 PA on me, so nerf Paladins..... o w8, they were RR2x2+1 RR3 and i had all my RAs up, the PA did about 250 dmg and the rest of their hits about 60, i even 4 shooted 1 of them (slam+ 3 backslah) i was veeeeery buffed btw and they not even dropped a simple str buff, did i said 2 of them were blue cons?. Are we talking about a 3 SBs full buffed against u unbuffed or you full buffed against 3 SBs low RR and unbuffed?, make an entire picture or dont say nothing plz.

 

[mastade]

Increasing recasttime on ALL "spells" in the savagery line

 

[PainLady]

Originally posted by Djin
its not the savage that ruin the game! its the infils zergs that does.

first thing is they have df, and that is already overpowered.! but not enough with that! they zerg in 2fgs 90% of the time. so when SB's got nerfed ppl rolled fotm infil.

they have 2 benefits now. overpowered. and zerging too damn much! plz!

Hey hon

 

[old.Emma]

I have a savage also incase you didnt notice ;p

And yes after experiencing them from the "otherside" i do think there a little much.

Getting 3 Shot by Brutallos and Sushii.

2H Savages arent that bad they do hit fast but often if there using max qui/haste buffs etc its not that hard. normally 250-300 damage.

But H2H even though it can be streaky getting hit with Clans Call (rear stun) and getting killed during that 4s stun is a tad redictulous.

So far the most a h2h savage has hit me for is close to 750 damage in one swing (yes it was a quad and yes i know there not that common)

The problem with Savages is there Savagery line. Where as under normal circumstances the line is about as perfect as it can get, when a savage has the backup of multiple seers the negatives of the line are obsolete.

There Evade rate isnt a problem. It has been proven the more people attacking the lower there evade rate is. The problem comes from close to tank or tank weapon skill and high attack rates.

The only way i can see a fix being made for the class currently is an increase to the costs of the buffs (ie take into account there buffed hp instead of just there base hp currently) or add a possible timer to evade/haste/dps buffs.

ie pop the buff it lasts for 30 seconds.. buff cant be used again for 1 min or so.

If on the other hand that isnt done. atleast have the buffs take hp from there buffed hp total ie.

buffed savage with 2300 hp.. pops evade/haste/dps buffs totalling 27% of there hp.

They would then loose 621hp once the buffs drop or possibly loose the hp when the buffs are used instead of when they go.

Currenty when they pop those 3 buffs they only loose around 250hp.


250hp is hardly anything. but 620hp is a pretty large ammount.

 

[old.Emma]

Before you start screaming FoTm Savage.. my savage was the first 50 savage on the EU servers.

Dinged 50 3 days 20 hours after SI was patched in the EU.

Long before they were even considered a decent class in the US and EU.

Infact at the time they were the most underplayed class in midgard ;p

 

[parzi]

Originally posted by kin
I dont mind admit df is overpowered after sb nerf, but how many mids will admit that their newly created savage is overpowered ?

all rr5+ i know
ok well the really "newly created ones" prolly wont admit it cause they dont have the experience to see it yet.

 

[old.Emma]

Originally posted by Djin
its not the savage that ruin the game! its the infils zergs that does.

first thing is they have df, and that is already overpowered.! but not enough with that! they zerg in 2fgs 90% of the time. so when SB's got nerfed ppl rolled fotm infil.

they have 2 benefits now. overpowered. and zerging too damn much! plz!

Its not only Infils that stealth zerg ;p

In the 2 nights i have been activly RvRing in emain with my infil (solo and in a duo) ive come across one SB that was solo. All other fights its generally been 2-3+.

Nallista glad to see you solo with your SB.. damn Rare sight now. I`m one of several SB`s on Prydwen that still solo. AND still refuse to group with other stealthers ;p