Politics So...Europe then?

Moriath

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How is that the fault of the EU though?

The impression I get is that British fishing doesn't want to be competitive, which I totally support, but when we live in a capitalistic world, that's hardly going to work.
Plenty of fishermen would disagree.
 

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the ability to sign up to what we want to internationally.

to control the resources in our part of the world. That sort of thing
Anybody with any trade deals anywhere, doesn't have a free hand to do what they want. Being in the WTO means you can't do what you want. And most critically, if you elect a bunch of cunts who would rather sell the resources in your part of the world for the highest bidder to exploit rather than support local industry, then your "sovereignty" will do you no fucking good whatsoever.
 

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A lotof the smaller boats out of places like Looe are getting caned cause the quotas are auctioned or sold off to the highest bidder which is the super trawler guys cause they have all the money.

if you watched the cornish fisheries series on bbc2 i think it was you see they cant get a quota allocated to new small boats as all those super trawlers are buying them all and the ports are dying.
so yes keep the europeans out of our waters and ban super trawlers.
Tories. Youre really not paying attention are you?
 

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Anybody with any trade deals anywhere, doesn't have a free hand to do what they want. Being in the WTO means you can't do what you want. And most critically, if you elect a bunch of cunts who would rather sell the resources in your part of the world for the highest bidder to exploit rather than support local industry, then your "sovereignty" will do you no fucking good whatsoever.
Like i said we get to choose which we sign up to. Obviously we have signed up to the wto. So minimums we get are wto tariffs.
 

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As DaGaffer said, the small fishers are even worse off now than before, turns out closing access to their biggest market was not a smart move, no one could have predicted that...

And yes ban supertrawlers
 

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Like to see how this works out:


The government said the announcement would not "signal a return to the failed 1970s approach of government picking winners or bailing out unsustainable companies
How does a process of distributing funds to companies work without government "picking winners"?

It sounds like a cronies charter - Tories'll be legally allowed to funnel public money towards their mates.
 
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It sounds like a cronies charter - Tories'll be legally allowed to funnel public money towards their mates.
As opposed to now when it might not be legal but no-one does anything about it anyway.
 

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As opposed to now when it might not be legal but no-one does anything about it anyway.
At least it makes the papers as officially is a "bad thing" as it stands today.
 

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At least it makes the papers as officially is a "bad thing" as it stands today.
No-one gets prosecuted and people still vote Tory so I'm not sure that matters.
 

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What's that? The blank slate of Brexit is being painted blue? Well I never.

We should have much more of a say in how post Brexit Britain is going to look. But as I said all along it'll be by the Tories for the Tories and for as long as they can.
 

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What's that? The blank slate of Brexit is being painted blue? Well I never.
That's why I held the Lexiteers in such low regard. The idea that once freed from EU law the UK would use its new freedom to create a socialist paradise was too ridiculous for words.
 

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That's why I held the Lexiteers in such low regard. The idea that once freed from EU law the UK would use its new freedom to create a socialist paradise was too ridiculous for words.
Maybe if people stopped voting for the wrong people :eek:
 

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Maybe if people stopped voting for the wrong people :eek:
Regardless, this is exactly what most of us remainers thought would happen after Brexit. Tory rule with fewer shackles from supra-national bodies. Erosion of constitutional norms. Etc...
 

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Regardless, this is exactly what most of us remainers thought would happen after Brexit. Tory rule with fewer shackles from supra-national bodies. Erosion of constitutional norms. Etc...
From 2016:

And so many times since.
 

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From 2016:

And so many times since.
Be nice to see the brexiteers on here defend that they weren't told what would happen or that it is all just "scaremongering" - when we've evidence on this very forum that they were indeed told what would happen and now it's happening their scaremongering excuse is also shot to bits.

@Embattle, for example? Care to comment?
 

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It'll just be a post about how much of a cunt you are @Scouse let's be honest, that's the usual response or obviously a muted facepalm.
 

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How about this @Embattle? Yet another environmental backpeddle. The Tories are chaning the definition of what's endangered now we're free of the EU - so the "race to the bottom" in environmental standards is well and truly underway.

So, cronyism, lowering of standards across the board and a race to the bottom on environmental standards (to help Tory donors) with state aid.

All of the things we were "scaremongering" about - coming home to roost.

Care to comment?
 

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Who knew leaving the EU would mean UK countries/territories might face supply chain issues.

Fuck. If only people read before voting :(
 

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