Politics So...Europe then?

[BloodOmen]

Lol, cheeky sods Grimsby.

Seafood free trade bid leads to Grimsby voters being branded 'idiots'

 

[Job]

Oh look..all the migrants are leaving..the crops are rotting in the fields..coffee hss gone up.

Oh hang on.

Number of EU workers in UK rises by 112,000 since Brexit vote

 

[DaGaffer]

Oh look..all the migrants are leaving..the crops are rotting in the fields..coffee hss gone up.

Oh hang on.

Number of EU workers in UK rises by 112,000 since Brexit vote

Transient farm workers making money while they can. They do have until 2019 you know.

 

[Raven]

Unemployment is now the lowest since 1975

dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOm...

 

[Job]

Transient farm workers making money while they can. They do have until 2019 you know.

And by then Romania and Bulgarias ec onomy will pick up...be lent money by the EU in other words...and the numbers will drop naturally and well have to look elsewhere for slave labour to keep strawberries cheap.

 

[DaGaffer]

And by then Romania and Bulgarias ec onomy will pick up...be lent money by the EU in other words...and the numbers will drop naturally and well have to look elsewhere for slave labour to keep strawberries cheap.

In the next 18 months? Yes the Bulgarians and Romanians will go home (as they do every winter), no, it won’t make much of an impact to their economies in that time frame, and the U.K. will have a farm labour shortfall to fill post-Brexit, which as you say, the U.K. will have fix, and renders the key motivation for a hard Brexit (an end to free movement of labour) pointless.

 

[Raven]

They (Romanians) haven't been coming that long, transient now, perm later...although I guess that boat has sailed timing wise. The last wave that idiots moaned about were Poles, plenty of whom have settled in nicely...

 

[Job]

Brexiteers dont even have a problem with migrant workers..the obvious problem is millions of ME and NA african 'refugees' who get handed citizenship and then have insta rights to the entire UK...plus the get out of jail card of ' tortured at home.
With the housing secretary admitting 8 out of ten new families needing housing are immigrants and thats the main pressure for new builds...well its hardly rocket science.

 

[Raven]

So you have a problem with people that are nothing to do with the EU then?

 

[Ctuchik]

Brexiteers dont even have a problem with migrant workers..

Yes they do. They used immigrants as an excuse to vote out. Immigrant workers are included in that...

 

[Raven]

*some used it as a reason to vote leave.

Been done to death.

 

[Scouse]

*most (nearly three quarters)

Fixed.

 

[DaGaffer]

Brexiteers dont even have a problem with migrant workers..the obvious problem is millions of ME and NA african 'refugees' who get handed citizenship and then have insta rights to the entire UK...plus the get out of jail card of ' tortured at home.
With the housing secretary admitting 8 out of ten new families needing housing are immigrants and thats the main pressure for new builds...well its hardly rocket science.

You mean the Housing Secretary who completely refutes that number which has been bandied about by well-known right-wing lobby group Migration Watch? Anyone who claims the housing bubble is being driven by a single issue like immigration is trying to sell you something.

 

[Raven]

The housing problem is being driven by too many people, not enough houses.

Simple as that. The biggest issue is probably people living longer and living longer out of old folks homes.

 

[DaGaffer]

The housing problem is being driven by too many people, not enough houses.

Simple as that. The biggest issue is probably people living longer and living longer out of old folks homes.

There's a lot of evidence its also being driven by a speculation bubble, both in the UK and in Ireland.

 

[Wij]

The Central London price bubble is driven by money-laundering through property by foreign 'tycoons'.

 

[DaGaffer]

The Central London price bubble is driven by money-laundering through property by foreign 'tycoons'.

The bubble goes down much further than absent Russians. With sustained low interest rates, yield on property looks to be a much better bet, even with regulation. I know quite a few people in London who've become full time landlords/property speculators. Lot of them from good jobs too.

 

[caLLous]

 

[Job]

The remoaners actually hate Britain, journalist on R4 yrsterday giving an update on brexit talks.
She without any seeming awereness, was so utterly biased, that it just rolled off.
The Eu says this...taken as truthful gospel...britains reaction to this truth is to lie...so the EU says we have to do this if we dont do that, her exasperation at us not jumping to comply, then she went on to rip every brexiter and praise every remainer...the impartial BBC at its best.

 

[Ormorof]

Was she wrong?

 

[Raven]

Well, according to most experts we should have imploded into a black hole by now.

Still, cannot wait until the EU have to try and divvy up the cash pile, when we aren't putting in any more. Lots of little countries wanting their taste, lots of palms need to be Greesed (hur hur) to keep the machine working. Big hole in their future budget, comedy times ahead.

 

[DaGaffer]

Well, according to most experts we should have imploded into a black hole by now.

Still, cannot wait until the EU have to try and divvy up the cash pile, when we aren't putting in any more. Lots of little countries wanting their taste, lots of palms need to be Greesed (hur hur) to keep the machine working. Big hole in their future budget, comedy times ahead.

No, according to most experts you should implode into a black hole after Brexit, not before.

 

[BloodOmen]

David Davis on the brink of resigning apparently.

Exclusive: David Davis could quit because 'he is being frozen out on Brexit strategy' by civil servants

 

[Embattle]

The current impasse over money and trade is probably going to remain and if I was a company I would be preparing for a no deal right now, I wouldn't keep wondering about what type of deal it might be. It is a logical impasse because the EU wants us to settle the bill before we talk about anything significant and the UK naturally wants know it can afford to pay that bill by having some idea about trade, not that I see any trade deal really being that easy to come by when you consider one small region in Belgium held up the trade deal with Canada.

 

[Raven]

German group calls for UK to remain in EU

 

[BloodOmen]

If they still go through with it after this...

British banks 'will lose access to the EU' after Brexit


"Those who claim that the UK should pick parts of the single market must stop this contradiction. The single market is a package, with four indivisible freedoms, common rules, institutions, and enforcement structures.

The UK knows these rules very well, like the back of its hand. It has contributed to defining them over the last 44 years with a certain degree of influence. We took note of the UK decisions to end free movement of people and this means clearly that the UK will lose the benefits of the single market."

 

[Raven]

So what he actually means is that when the EU leaves the EU it leaves the EU.

OH MY GOD

 

[Raven]

UK* leaves, obviously.

 

[Bodhi]

One day the EU will realise London isn't the European Finance Centre, it's the Global one. Anything they do to make it more difficult to do business with London will seriously piss off the rest of the world as well.

But that wouldn't be like the EU to cut their noses off to spite their face would it?

 

[Scouse]

One day the EU will realise London isn't the European Finance Centre, it's the Global one. Anything they do to make it more difficult to do business with London will seriously piss off the rest of the world as well.

But that wouldn't be like the EU to cut their noses off to spite their face would it?

Meh. It's easy for banks to move their main legal operations base. It's as simple as changing some legal documentation. Massive infrastructure change doesn't need to happen overnight (though it is) - but in terms of passporting rules etc, it's relatively easy for them to ditch the UK. The infrastructure can move afterwards, if it needs to.

Which I'm currently watching them do, whilst people all about me find themselves redundant as stuff/people in HK, Singapore, US and Paris/Frankfurt gets massively ramped up instead.