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Well I hope it will be something we can choose. Else they might give away what ppl already have
 
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The fact that they're already up to patch v1.4 doesn't inspire confidence tbh.
 
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caLLous said:
The fact that they're already up to patch v1.4 doesn't inspire confidence tbh.
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So if they left it at patch 1.0 forever that would be fine with you?

What a stupid post.
 
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Buh? Don't be thick. Of course they should patch when it's necessary but four major point updates within a few days of release means the game wasn't ready to go when they released it. Much better to have your game ready to go when you release it than have to sheepishly push out a bunch of major patches in the days after.

Overall, this release has been a disaster. It's no wonder it's barely getting above a 1-star rating on Amazon.
 
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The game is actually quite good.. Not had a single issue since installing tbh.
 
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caLLous said:
Buh? Don't be thick. Of course they should patch when it's necessary but four major point updates within a few days of release means the game wasn't ready to go when they released it. Much better to have your game ready to go when you release it than have to sheepishly push out a bunch of major patches in the days after.

Overall, this release has been a disaster. It's no wonder it's barely getting above a 1-star rating on Amazon.
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The game is being trolled for a bad US release, the server issues are done with there are so many servers right now it's getting to that point where there are too many servers, I have had zero issues since it released on Friday, and i mean no disconnects no trouble getting onto my server and the game hasn't crashed a single time.

I could understand you jumping on the bandwagon if they didn't update their game, but the fact they are releasing updates really quickly and people are now jumping on their backs at this? Maxis/EA fucked up they said so, they have fixed the issues and people are now playing.

People who haven't even BOUGHT the game are giving it 1 stars on any and every website they can either because they hate the online DRM or hate EA, or both.

The game itself? very good which at the end of the day is what matters when all is said and done, I've clocked nearly 34 hours since Friday morning It's a fun and addicting game.
 
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Can you play it without servers if in the future EA disconnects the service?
 
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No, Toht. You have to be connected to their servers to even launch it.

I expect there will be massive backlash when they decide to kill the servers in 5 or 10 years time but it's EA, so they will just give approximately zero fucks and do it anyway.
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I could understand you jumping on the bandwagon if they didn't update their game, but the fact they are releasing updates really quickly and people are now jumping on their backs at this?
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What bandwagon is this? I'm the first person I know of to even mention rapid updates. I went to their site to see what they were saying about the state of their servers (turns out they are patting themselves on the back for a job well done, getting a couple of extra servers up... lol) and I saw a v1.4 announcement. It's TOO SOON for a game that was released at v1.0 to be at v1.4. I'm not criticising them for fixing the bugs, I'm criticising them for releasing it in such a buggy state.
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People who haven't even BOUGHT the game are giving it 1 stars on any and every website they can either because they hate the online DRM or hate EA, or both.
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You're probably right to an extent but *every* review I read on Amazon says that they bought it and they can't play it. The online DRM is a fucking car-crash of an idea, whichever way you look at it.
 
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they have apparently issued an apology for their "dumb" launch, unfortunately the BBC article on their homepage leads to a 404 Not Found o_O
 
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I just bought Sim City 2000 in somewhat of a protest, trying to 'stick it to the man' and all that (I get it's still an EA game but stfu) and it's the most confusing thing I've ever seen. How did I understand this as a kid?! Joke's on me I guess.
 
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Billargh said:
I just bought Sim City 2000 in somewhat of a protest, trying to 'stick it to the man' and all that (I get it's still an EA game but stfu) and it's the most confusing thing I've ever seen. How did I understand this as a kid?! Joke's on me I guess.
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Stick it to em billy boy. :)
 
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As for gifting money from one city to another it too uses a unique system in the region, in essence it is actually represented by a van which will travel from the senders city hall to the receivers city hall :)
 
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As for gifting money from one city to another it too uses a unique system in the region, in essence it is actually represented by a van which will travel from the senders city hall to the receivers city hall :)
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that would be good if you could send a load of hoodlums with sawn offs from your city in an unmarked van to nick the money in transit!!
 
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http://answers.ea.com/t5/Miscellane...ces-and-traffic-are-broken/m-p/737060#U737060

One of the biggest problems people are having with the game is the massive traffic-jams that seem to clog the entire system up. Now, this is responsible for the ineffective coverage of ANY traffic-based services (Fire, Police, Garbage, Medical, Education, Mass-Transit.) There are also a number of smaller complaints that may also be directly related to how Glassbox handles traffic.

"Workers aren't commuting."
"There aren't enough workers, even though I have plenty of population."
"Tourism is broken."
"Emergency services are slow/unresponsive/broken."

The agent system that is used for utilities (power, water, sewage) seems to be identical to the system that handles traffic.

The problem is that, just as power can sometimes take a ridiculously long time to fill the entire map (because the "power agents" just randomly move about with no sense) traffic and workers can do the same thing. Workers leave their homes as "people agents." These agents go to the nearest open job, not caring at all where they worked yesterday. They fill the job, and the next worker goes to the next building and fills that job, and so it goes until all the jobs are "filled." So, when you have all your "worker" sims leaving their houses for work in the morning, they all cluster together like some kind of "tourist pack" until they have all been sucked into "jobs." They don't seem to care if the job is Commercial or Industrial, only that it's a job.

"Scholars" are handled exactly the same way. As are school busses and mass-transit agents. This is why you see the "trains" of busses roaming through your city, and why entire sections of town may never see a school bus, despite having plenty of stops... Once all the busses are full, they return to school and stay there until school is done for the day.

Now, here is where it gets really good... In the evening, when work and school lets out, they all leave and proceed to the absolute closest "open" house. They don't "own" their houses. The "people" you see are actually just mindless agents (much like the utilities agents, as I said earlier) making the whole idea of "being able to follow a 'Sim' through their entire day" utterly POINTLESS!!"

The reason traffic problems cause so many other side-effects, is because EVERYTHING relies on those "people" who are stuck in herds trying to go to whatever closest "slot" they can fill. Casinos go bust because "tourists" are just "shopper agents" from out of town. You MUST put casinos RIGHT next to the entrance to your city if you want them to succeed. Placing street-car stops by the casinos can actually cause more harm than good! Why? Because the "shoppers" will board the streetcar stop (because it's the closest open slot) and be shuttled to a shopping district instead.

Sharing resources and services gets to be a joke, because all the vehicles ("agents") get bound up with the busses at the entrances to cities.

Ultimately, the problem is that the developers have decided to handle sims like they handle any "mindless" power-agent. This results in mindless sims, and mindless services. Mindless services reduce the actual quality of the simulation. Since no sim actually owns a house, they don't REALLY care what amenities are built around it. THIS is why it is nearly impossible to have distinct districts of each wealth level... A low-wealth agent may very well end up in a high-wealth house at the end of the day. Why? Because it was the closest open house. The next morning, that agent sets out to find "high-wealth" work. Then after work, may end up in a medium-wealth home with 2 kids! There's no rhyme or reason for the way they behave, OTHER than just taking the shortest (not quickest) path to the nearest open space.

Police services suffer from this as well. They converge on the first crime committed, and ignore the second crime until one car rushes off to deposit the criminal-agent in jail. THEN the other cars can respond to the second crime. There's no zones, and there's no actual "prevention."

Fire services also send every unit to the first available fire. It's utterly pointless to try and "decentralize," because every truck from the city will still converge on one fire, ignoring the other three until it's out. Once the first fire is out, they all rush to the next fire. The only thing you get for having multiple fire-trucks is that they put the fires out slightly quicker. Really, you can have the exact same fire coverage quality with only one of each type of fire-unit. "Fire Marshalls" are COMPLETELY random, and just seem to roam around picking whichever building is "most at risk," ignoring the fact that an entire neighborhood is high risk, and the next "most at risk" is on the other side of the city... Which gets them stuck in traffic.

Interestingly enough, ambulances seem to act independently of one another, but they still refuse to take "right of way" and are constantly bogged in traffic. Medical vans just act like all the rest of the service vehicles.
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I'm not touching this game until stuff like this is resolved. The game is utterly broken.
 
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Dear god, they apparently put this code in (look at the name they gave it ffs):

GetFudgedPopulation

if (500 >= a)
return a;

if (40845 < a)
return Math.floor(8.25 * a);

a = Math.pow(a - 500, 1.2) + 500;
return Math.floor(a);

The code for your actual population compare to the one displayed.
 
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