SB MA Ways.

[Haldar]

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=58572657&replies=2

"As a TL, the NDA pretty much prevents me from any ML sharing of info.

As a PLAYER, a group of Mids completed their first ML on Pend tonight and the 2 choices presented to me (as of Sunday night), were Banelord and Spymaster.

-Bog "

from http://www.routehero.com/toa

Banelord Abilities
Zone of Unmana - spell unhaste aura
Primal Agony - reduce power, fatigue, and health of nearby enemies by 10% of current value
Oppression - reduce max encumberance by 25% for a short time
Inexorable Defeat - 60% penalty to fatigue costs for nearby enemies
Tactical Insight - next attack by nearby enemies has additional 5% chance to miss
Snaring Tendrils of Power - root self/snare others
Chaotic Power - +5% chance to hit enemies with spells
Zealous Martyr - sacrifice health to damage enemies
Demoralization - Lower level of enemies for dmg calcs

Spymaster
Pickpocket - Bonus PvE Coin
Decoy - summon random epic dressed realmmate with 1hp and no offense to distract opponents
Enduring Poison - 15% chance poison won't be removed from weapon on a resist
Sabotage - damage siege engines, doors, or geomancer fields
Tanglesnare - Snare Mine
Poisonspike - DoT Mine
Watcher in Darkness - Stealthed user can't move, but any stealthed enemy moving within 350 radius is exposed along with the watcher
Siege Wrecker - mine that detonates when a siege engine is built nearby; only affects siege engines
Essence Flare - Summons PBAE Mez poison (10 second)

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Essence Flare - Summons PBAE Mez poison (10 second)

I like this one ALOT

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Essence Flare - Summons PBAE Mez poison (10 second)

I like this one ALOT

PERFECT vs the stealthzergs that pops on you

 

[kinag]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Nerf DF

Oh, sorry, wrong thread

 

[Belomar]

Omg @ the Master Abilities on that list ( http://www.routehero.com/toa ).

 

[froler-mid]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm, pve inc then......

 

[Belomar]

And why the hell are the eight master level lines so clearly directed at making melee chars more powerful? I don't see a single line that I would like for my cabalist that would actually make me stronger -- it's all about overpowering tank abilities.

 

[osy]

Sojourner
Unburdened Warrior - Bonus Encumberance
Unending Breath - group water breathing
Reveal Crystalseed - Sweep Mine
Unmake Crystalseed - Disable Mine
Ancient Transmuter - Summons vendor for maybe a minute, summonable once every hour or so
Gateway - teleport to caster's bindpoint
Resistance of the Ancients - resistance to master level magic abilities
Forceful Zephyr - summons pet that drags enemy to GT
Phase Shift - Become immune to damage for 10 seconds, but cannot attack. Costs 50 fatigue

Disable Mine ?

 

[Jiggs]

Originally posted by Belomar
And why the hell are the eight master level lines so clearly directed at making melee chars more powerful? I don't see a single line that I would like for my cabalist that would actually make me stronger -- it's all about overpowering tank abilities.

gateway, so you can port out when u realise that playing a caster really is futile =)

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by Belomar
And why the hell are the eight master level lines so clearly directed at making melee chars more powerful? I don't see a single line that I would like for my cabalist that would actually make me stronger -- it's all about overpowering tank abilities.

cabalist can choice from banelord/convoker if the list of track-class is correct.

Battlewarder - focus pet that cannot move and has powerful offense. Has no ranged capabilities, and drains a lot of power from the caster. <-- sounds nice atleast?

Brittle Guard - single hit bodyguard pet, follows caster <-- another BT?

Summoning Mastery - PBAE buff that boosts level of all nearby pets for the purpose of to-hit (offensive and defensive) chances <-- making everyone pets in your area better? (hoping that its insta for my hunter).


Chaotic Power - +5% chance to hit enemies with spells <-- might not scale for high level epic mobs so casters can actually hit those?

perfecter is nice for healers (it also has a small det in it).

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Arnor
PERFECT vs the stealthzergs that pops on you

exactly

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Anyone know if its the same ml for all assasins or this is sb only?

 

[Driwen]

it seems that all stealthers will get banelord/spymaster except for hunters which will get convoker/spymaster. You can only follow one of the two tracks and I think that a track is the same for every class that can choice it. So spymaster is stealther only, but it will give the same abilities for an infil as it would for a sb/other stealther.

edit: minstrell gets Sojourner/spymaster sorry for that.

 

[herjulf]

Originally posted by Belomar
And why the hell are the eight master level lines so clearly directed at making melee chars more powerful? I don't see a single line that I would like for my cabalist that would actually make me stronger -- it's all about overpowering tank abilities.

Banelord Abilities
Zone of Unmana - spell unhaste aura
Primal Agony - reduce power, fatigue, and health of nearby enemies by 10% of current value
Oppression - reduce max encumberance by 25% for a short time
Inexorable Defeat - 60% penalty to fatigue costs for nearby enemies
Tactical Insight - next attack by nearby enemies has additional 5% chance to miss
Snaring Tendrils of Power - root self/snare others
Chaotic Power - +5% chance to hit enemies with spells
Zealous Martyr - sacrifice health to damage enemies
Demoralization - Lower level of enemies for dmg calcs

Convoker
Summon Wood - Summon decent quantity of med quality wood
Prescience Node - Summon a crystal globe that can reveal nearby stealthers (without popping it)
Power Trap - power draining mine
Summon Warcrystal - summon a random piece of powerful siege ammunition
Speedwarp - cancels out speed buffs for a minute on anyone who passes through this field
Battlewarder - focus pet that cannot move and has powerful offense. Has no ranged capabilities, and drains a lot of power from the caster.
Dissonance Trap - direct damage trap
Brittle Guard - single hit bodyguard pet, follows caster
Summoning Mastery - PBAE buff that boosts level of all nearby pets for the purpose of to-hit (offensive and defensive) chances

Perfecter
Purging Wave - group cure disease
Purify Vision - cure nearsight
Sphere of Rejuvenation - Heal Field
Greatness - increases concentration pool by 20%
Font of Power - +3 power regeneration field
Determination Ward - 7% cc reduction field
Leaping Health - shout, self buff, Chain Heal (follow up single-target heal is chained to 2 additional targets, 33% weaker each hit)
Soul Restoration - cure rez sickness in a single target, costs 33% of the caster's power
Dissonating Ward - Power-cost penalty field, place near doors or the lord room, or whatever; will affect close range casters, PBAErs in specific

Warlord
Siege Master - reduce all siege timers (load/aim/fire) by 30%
Bolstering Battlecry - heal power, fatigue, and health by 10% of max
Cowering Bellow - frighten realm enemy monsters, to stop interrupting friendly casters
Resillient Will - next spell cast on nearby allies has additional 5% chance to miss
Guided Strike - next attack from nearby allies has +10% chance to crit
Energizing Aura - 20% discount on fatigue costs for nearby allies
Cleansing Aura - Reduce strength of DoTs on nearby allies by 10 points every 3 seconds
Defending Martyr - sacrifice health to heal allies
Leadership - raise levels of friends for dmg calcs


ONLY 50% of the MA is caster related bohoooooo go cry somewhere else ^^

 

[Belomar]

Umm, yeah, we get -- wait for it -- summon wood! None of these abilities seem very useful to me. (Though I'd love to have a tank bodyguarding me.)

 

[Gordonax]

Originally posted by Belomar
Umm, yeah, we get -- wait for it -- summon wood! None of these abilities seem very useful to me. (Though I'd love to have a tank bodyguarding me.)

Ummm...

"Prescience Node - Summon a crystal globe that can reveal nearby stealthers (without popping it)"

THAT'S not useful????

 

[Belomar]

Tsk, tsk, details. Now go away and let me whine in peace!

 

[dimerian]

Decoy sounds great...

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by Arnor
PERFECT vs the stealthzergs that pops on you

Ummm joy, Infils pay 10 (?) RA Points for this...

Perhaps the ML for Infils will be nice also.

Oh its for all of the stealthers, slightly duplicatedish but hey

 

[ormagaa]

Useful stuff?

Primal Agony - reduce power, fatigue, and health of nearby enemies by 10% of current value

Sounds to me like a pbae nuke.
tank 2300hp = -230hp/target Oo, + power + end

get 8 ppl with that and wtfpwn

Purging Wave - group cure disease
moahahahaha

Greatness - increases concentration pool by 20%
Mr buffbot uber

Phase Shift - Become immune to damage for 10 seconds, but cannot attack. Costs 50 fatigue
assist 4tehwin!?

Cowering Bellow - frighten realm enemy monsters, to stop interrupting friendly casters
Ola's pet R.I.P

 

[punj]

Grapple - any weapon style that drains 50 fatigue, does low damage, has bonus to hit, penalty to defense

and this one is useful because?

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by punj
and this one is useful because?

Guessing it's mistyped ( as I assume it's suggestions from players still ) - guessing that the correct reading would be:

If you use Grapple - the next style from your opponent will drain 50 fatigue, do low damage, have a bonus to hit and penalty to defense.

That would be useful - the original reading sound rather bad

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
exactly

Better hope it does not damage friendlies then Jaond.
Regards, Glottis

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
Better hope it does not damage friendlies then Jaond.
Regards, Glottis

Then i could mezz nalistah to death

 

[Puppetmistress]

I think its strange things like:

Primal Agony - reduce power, fatigue, and health of nearby enemies by 10% of current value
Power Trap - power draining mine

are added. The last thing a game needs is another 'caster'-nerf. For a tank it doesnt really matter if you loose 10% endurance because with End5 you get it back in 2 seconds. You can also function without endurance while a caster is useless. Mana also regenerates very much slower.

Anyhow stuff which fucks up controls (blindness, unable to attack a certain person) is pretty new but also strange since confuse was already in the game but couldnt work in RvR because Mythic didnt want to allow interface-problems in the game.

Ah well, some stuff looks really cool and ofcourse cant whine before its here and I tried it. Hope it will be an approach to making all classes more viable in RvR again tho I doubt that...

 

[Lumikki]

Originally posted by Belomar
And why the hell are the eight master level lines so clearly directed at making melee chars more powerful? I don't see a single line that I would like for my cabalist that would actually make me stronger -- it's all about overpowering tank abilities.

Exactly. I'm far from impressed

xx

 

[Nebel]

Originally posted by Haldar

Decoy - summon random epic dressed realmmate with 1hp and no offense to distract opponents

hehe...cool!!.. reminds me of Duke Nukem AAAAAGES ago

 

[Flimgoblin]

lets all cry "nerf" over some early beta info which has been put through a couple of chinese whispers

actually it's quite good fun

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by Belomar
And why the hell are the eight master level lines so clearly directed at making melee chars more powerful? I don't see a single line that I would like for my cabalist that would actually make me stronger -- it's all about overpowering tank abilities.

thats one of the reasons I quit, Mythics thinly veiled appalling attitude towards casters.



and to everyone that complains about casters whining: Take a fucking hike with your inbred wife/sister and get the fuck out of my way before I fucking eat you!


Ill be glad to have a normal discussion with you, but your not fucking worth it.

 

[Gordonax]

Originally posted by Arnor
and to everyone that complains about casters whining: Take a fucking hike with your inbred wife/sister and get the fuck out of my way before I fucking eat you!


Ill be glad to have a normal discussion with you, but your not fucking worth it.

Whoa Arnor! Anger management issues!