rm specc

[polgra]

47dark/26supp or 50dark/20supp

why and why not ?

 

[Kalba]

Today Choka stole my spec

 

[jakob]

the first spec will give you 10 sec pbt which imo isn't that good in rvr, and in pve you really need the last one for it to be good. but you do get the 3rd nearsight. You will loose a bit of nuke dmg, the last dmg add and the last AE nuke.

Either one of them will do for now, I would probably go for the 47/26 one, gives a bit more utility than the all out dmg one.

 

[polgra]

hmm whats is rilly pbt ? like a chant and it save u 1 time when a mob attacks u ?

 

[TaF]

For rvr :

48 rc - last cold debuff (rvr with no debuff is FUNNY, at low rr)
22 dark - less variance
11 supp- nearsight (it CAN be useful and aint actually resisted that much)

don't care about pve though. so not going to comment :>

 

[Dorin]

dark is good till resist pierce gets nerfed or you are kinda high rr or got another rm debuffing for you, tho i wouldnt miss the chance to self-debuff my dmg and after rr5 hit cap on base dd.

I would recomend the spec wrote by taf.

 

[Saske]

For rvr :

48 rc - last cold debuff (rvr with no debuff is FUNNY, at low rr)
22 dark - less variance
11 supp- nearsight (it CAN be useful and aint actually resisted that much)

don't care about pve though. so not going to comment :>

what he said

 

[Fiver]

Im 47 dark 26 supp and ilke it,prefer spec nukes over base

 

[Lawless]

50 dark 20 sup, but thats me higher cap both in rvr as in pve.... And u get the best dmg add ingame :worthy:

that my spec, and rox imo, just get a rc rm to debuff for u, and u make 700+ dmg each nuke

 

[Blitzing]

i must say i like dark spec better than RC, i tried it for a while but specced to dark, ofc RC is fun when taking keeps cause of the ground AE nuke, but the normal RC nuke kinda sucks and bolts arent that fast cause of the recast time. i like it fast, like with dark nukes. but thats just me

 

[Teh FnoRd]

I'm going for 50 Dark 20 Supp on my lil Runie aswell. Nice nuke. BOOM! Nice nuke.

 

[polgra]

wiiie =) \o/

thx for all replays.. i think i go for 50d/20s

 

[Dorin]

i must say i like dark spec better than RC, i tried it for a while but specced to dark, ofc RC is fun when taking keeps cause of the ground AE nuke, but the normal RC nuke kinda sucks and bolts arent that fast cause of the recast time. i like it fast, like with dark nukes. but thats just me

About rc spec:

You shouldnt use rc base nuke, saw some rms doing it... priceless. You debuff - dd (my cap is 565 with 5% spell dmg, maybe reaching 580 with 10% spell dmg, after rr5 i will most likely hit for that 90% thanks to bonuses to darkness), int bad. You get 2 bolts which if lucky, can nicely 2 shot a caster or get him to low hp. Nearsight from 11 supp is also handy to interrupt - ns(resisted quiet a few times from lvl 11 spell though)

About dark spec:

Comparing dd : rr8 fire wizard nuked me for 425 dmg (he is toa-d i think)against 42% heat resist and thats with more then 10% resist pierce. After resist pierce nerf and no debuff, no relics they will dd for 350-ish dmg (top), instead of chanter DD which is 500-600 after debuff thanks to relics and toa bonus. Ofc with proper debuffer its good, but its better to hit for 500 dmg always then to rely on someone else and also facing baod + 50% cold resist w/o debuff, hf . You wont be happy to see 315(-280) instead of 514(+38) etc.

if i missed something, enlighten me as i rly cant see the point to spec darkness as runemaster. nobody mentioned that he goes with 25% resist pierce, but that is getting nerfbated.

 

[Stranger]

FYI dark rm has base DD with resistance descrease.. so go figure.. my spec is 47/26
hitting on average about 400-700 (depending on race / resists) - with MoM3 and wp2 (low rr atm) - 2-3 shooting most casters or unbuffed assassins...

PS no ToA sc so no piercing etc thingies

 

[Dorin]

FYI dark rm has base DD with resistance descrease.. so go figure.. my spec is 47/26
hitting on average about 400-700 (depending on race / resists) - with MoM3 and wp2 (low rr atm) - 2-3 shooting most casters or unbuffed assassins...

PS no ToA sc so no piercing etc thingies

make picture and post hitting 400+ on fully buffed caped resist buffed mid rr enemy pls, somehow i cant believe it ofc i can be wrong.

 

[TaF]

FYI dark rm has base DD with resistance descrease.. so go figure.. my spec is 47/26
hitting on average about 400-700 (depending on race / resists) - with MoM3 and wp2 (low rr atm) - 2-3 shooting most casters or unbuffed assassins...

PS no ToA sc so no piercing etc thingies

10% debuff in reality (afaik anyway) = (10*1.25) /2 = 6.25% . Woot, amazing stuff tbh !

So ..
219 DD darkness 47+14 (lets say ur rr4 ) :

Cap is around 700 damage
Say full buffed, toa capped pie 308 aquity no spell pierce

On paper:

1)Decent hib (group) has 26+16%(buff) 42%-6% => 340(-190) dmg
2)Alb groups don't run with friars so SC is all they got : 26% - 6% => 430(-110)

With 48 RC cold debuff :
1) Decent hib : 42%- ((50%/2)*1.25=~31% = 10%=> 440(-50) dmg
2) alb : 26%-31%=-5%=>490 dmg

I am no specialist in formulas, but using some calculators on web, this should give you some idea how it is.
In reality i am seeing stuff like 250(-250) with undebuffed RR2 (22+12 spec then) base dark DD, with debuffed it's 400-500 np tho.

It's kewl if u can find a debuffer for dark spec rm, but don't count on it.

 

[Cuteypie]

I wouldn't change my darkcarver specc for anything, when pierce is nerfed and frontiers is inc its the only way to go.