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[Raven]

He is calling a 250k second salary "chicken feed"

Although, he could be talking about the amount of work involved (though I doubt it)

 

[Moriath]

He is calling a 250k second salary "chicken feed"

Although, he could be talking about the amount of work involved (though I doubt it)

And for him it might be. Its all comparative. I dont see that statement to be a problem.

 

[Scouse]

I'm confused. (Not the first time). I don't really see what the problem is here.

Yeah. The fact that a poltician calls it chicken feed. And he knows that he's made a big boob there because he says what he really thinks. Which in and of itself is fine - but it betrays the fact that he cannot relate to the people he should be doing his damnest to represent - i.e. the average folk. His gut reaction is that of a man who's far to privileged - and that makes him unsuitable (or dangerous) to hold the highest levels of power.

Not that he can't contribute to things effectively - but he's hampered in important ways. It's a bit like a bastardisation of the canary in a cage thing - if you grow up in a cage then you don't understand what it's like to not be in it.

 

[DaGaffer]

Yeah. The fact that a poltician calls it chicken feed. And he knows that he's made a big boob there because he says what he really thinks. Which in and of itself is fine - but it betrays the fact that he cannot relate to the people he should be doing his damnest to represent - i.e. the average folk. His gut reaction is that of a man who's far to privileged - and that makes him unsuitable (or dangerous) to hold the highest levels of power.

Not that he can't contribute to things effectively - but he's hampered in important ways. It's a bit like a bastardisation of the canary in a cage thing - if you grow up in a cage then you don't understand what it's like to not be in it.

Sorry, don't buy the argument; you don't have to be "of the people" to represent the people; politicians (of any political camp) very rarely are, and even if you are, there's little or no evidence that once you've joined "the political class" that you understand "ordinary" people anyway. The act of being a politician (especially at nation level) divorces you from reality by default.

Boris calling 250K chicken feed doesn't bother me in the slightest. The reality is that his £140K public salary is a sinecure anyway; if he was a CEO of a corporation with a budget like he has to run London (about £2bn) he'd be earning vastly more money.

 

[Gwadien]

Sorry, don't buy the argument; you don't have to be "of the people" to represent the people; politicians (of any political camp) very rarely are, and even if you are, there's little or no evidence that once you've joined "the political class" that you understand "ordinary" people anyway. The act of being a politician (especially at nation level) divorces you from reality by default.

Boris calling 250K chicken feed doesn't bother me in the slightest. The reality is that his £140K public salary is a sinecure anyway; if he was a CEO of a corporation with a budget like he has to run London (about £2bn) he'd be earning vastly more money.

This.

I think Boris is misunderstood. He's a socialist at heart.

If he said 250k was chicken feed whilst working 4 days a week doing the articles then I'd get the argument. If we're going to take his word for it, and he does it on Sundays (Boris mate, I don't mind you doing it on Saturdays too.) Then that's fine no?

Especially if its taxed!

 

[Ormorof]

Paying taxes is for oiks

 

[Scouse]

Sorry, don't buy the argument; you don't have to be "of the people" to represent the people; politicians (of any political camp) very rarely are, and even if you are, there's little or no evidence that once you've joined "the political class" that you understand "ordinary" people anyway. The act of being a politician (especially at nation level) divorces you from reality by default..

Other than completely agreeing with your point that politicians from normal rather than privileged families are rare I disagree strongly with the rest of your argument.

It's like your argument that I can't possibly imagine what it's like to have children. Maybe I'm wrong on that point - and if I am then you're wrong on this one - because it's essentially the same thing - an inability to understand "other" and the problems that are concomitent therein.



People of privilege will, naturally, understand the problems of those of privilege more readily than those who've grown up poor - and attach a greater emotional importance to them - because they can't help not. They're only human after all. Even Boris.

 

[old.user4556]

I'm confused. (Not the first time). I don't really see what the problem is here.

His chicken feed remark, if you don't see what the problem is with that, then that's your prerogative.

 

[sayward]

Internet Explorer will never open on my laptop so I have resorted to Google Chrome. Tried to watch the end of something on Sky Go last night and get told that GC doesnt support it, please use Internet Explorer. Tried and tried to make it work.

This morning switch on laptop and Internet Explorer opens on first go....Aaaaaargh.

 

[DaGaffer]

Other than completely agreeing with your point that politicians from normal rather than privileged families are rare I disagree strongly with the rest of your argument.

It's like your argument that I can't possibly imagine what it's like to have children. Maybe I'm wrong on that point - and if I am then you're wrong on this one - because it's essentially the same thing - an inability to understand "other" and the problems that are concomitent therein.

People of privilege will, naturally, understand the problems of those of privilege more readily than those who've grown up poor - and attach a greater emotional importance to them - because they can't help not. They're only human after all. Even Boris.

Its not the same argument at all! For a start you can represent without "feeling their pain", you can actually use other things like logic. Most of them don't and are shit politicians, but I'm still convinced that's largely a problem with the political class itself. Take, for example, Boris' predecessor, so called man-of-the-people Ken Livingstone; not a man to practice what he preached when it came to class politics.

His chicken feed remark, if you don't see what the problem is with that, then that's your prerogative.

It is chicken feed. For a national newspaper columnist. I'm sure Clarkson or AA Gill get more. Its all about context, and there's a certain degree of playing to the gallery coming from Cameron about MPs cutting out second jobs etc. My view is if it doesn't effect their day jobs or lead to a conflict of interest (which is a much more important consideration than the money), then who cares? Wish I could get 250 grand a year for an hour's work a week.

 

[DaGaffer]

Internet Explorer will never open on my laptop so I have resorted to Google Chrome. Tried to watch the end of something on Sky Go last night and get told that GC doesnt support it, please use Internet Explorer. Tried and tried to make it work.

This morning switch on laptop and Internet Explorer opens on first go....Aaaaaargh.

Yeah, Its because IE is the default browser support for Silverlight, which for a dead platform is still stubbornly popular amongst broadcasters. NB. Firefox still supports Silverlight for the time being.

 

[Raven]

Yeah, Sky-Go is terrible, old fashioned and should be consigned to the dustbin of broadcasting.

 

[Billargh]

The fact I don't live in Glasgow. I had deep fried pizza last night and it was heavenly.

 

[old.user4556]

It is chicken feed.

Don't be disingenuous, that's absolutely not the point.

 

[Raven]

When you go for a shit at work and the seat is warm from the last user.

 

[DaGaffer]

Don't be disingenuous, that's absolutely not the point.

What is the point? Most people don't consider 250K chicken feed? So? It makes me laugh that we all hate politicians for routinely lying to us, and then we they don't, we moan about it.

 

[Moriath]

When you go for a shit at work and the seat is warm from the last user.

Ewww thats gross.

 

[Yoni]

He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Now and again the facade slips. But lots of people love him, seemingly blindly.

Doesn't the above give you pause for thought @Yoni?

Sorry I am late replying but we can't criticise someone for being paid for doing a job? It maybe chicken feed to him as potentially he is from old money...

It really isn't any of our business what people earn privately.... Have any of you thought if he was working privately full time he quite possibly would be earning (and probably has earned) substantially more.

There is a reason he is a capitalist...

 

[Moriath]

Sorry I am late replying but we can't criticise someone for being paid for doing a job? It maybe chicken feed to him as potentially he is from old money...

It really isn't any of our business what people earn privately.... Have any of you thought if he was working privately full time he quite possibly would be earning (and probably has earned) substantially more.

There is a reason he is a capitalist...

I really dont see why he is being chastised except people are jealous of his wealth.

 

[old.user4556]

It really isn't any of our business what people earn privately

Agreed, but I found his remark crass and vulgar. The whole video was ugly on both fronts (with regards to my original comment on it).

 

[Gwadien]

I think people are missing the point anyway, a politician is getting paid by a media group.

doesn't matter how much, it matters that he's still getting paid by them.

 

[fettoken]

I think people are missing the point anyway, a politician is getting paid by a media group.

doesn't matter how much, it matters that he's still getting paid by them.

Yeah, is he getting paid or is he getting 'paid'.

 

[Gwadien]

Yeah, is he getting paid or is he getting 'paid'.

He's getting "paid" maybe #paid#

 

[fettoken]

He's getting "paid" maybe #paid#

Perhaps he should be "paved"..

 

[Gwadien]

Perhaps he should be "paved"..

No mate, >paved< for sure.

 

[fettoken]

No mate, >paved< for sure.

You gonna go out to pave someone tonight? It's saturday!

 

[fettoken]

People sporting these in urban city areas. Yes, the shit reaches knee-deep many times here in Stockholm (no bitterness at all...) but really, leave them for the farmers, if you're strutting in swampy areas (women in Northern England...?) or a fetishistic middle-aged gay man (like half of us on here).

 

[Gwadien]

People sporting these in urban city areas. Yes, the shit reaches knee-deep many times here in Stockholm (no bitterness at all...) but really, leave them for the farmers, if you're strutting in swampy areas (women in Northern England...?) or a fetishistic middle-aged gay man (like half of us on here).

Hunter 'Boots'/Wellies are usually worn by theatre goers to show everyone that they own a horse and accidentally forgot to take them off oopsies, hehehe.

 

[TdC]

aaaaand he's back ladies and gentlemen!

 

[fettoken]

Had the best triple 3x100g patty with cheese and onion, and extra cheese, and cheese-fries with onions and vanilla milkshake.